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offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-27 19:10 [#02629446]
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have you ever had a non-existent corporate logo stuck in
your head like an earworm? yeah man, me too

hey / Goose / Ho / Brand

switched on the gear, 3/4 of it cooperated, recorded that,
it's getting too hot up there, that's my track for today.
how r u?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-27 21:22 [#02629450]
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The Goose Brand™ now has a slogan, a logo, an audio logo
(just like Intel™) and Ansel Elgort as celebrity brand
ambassador.

The sky is the limit for The Goose Brand™ which only sells
black hats, black poofy jackets, and acid house vinyl white
labels [just because the sky is the limit doesn't mean you
have to eat everything at the buffet].

Here is the audio logo

(...along with the rest of track 9 as it sounds recorded
through the computer instead of the tape recorder)


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-27 21:23 [#02629451]
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If it honks like a goose, and it dresses like a goose, then
it must be The Goose Brand™


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 03:18 [#02629474]
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1. The Goose Brand
2. Hey / Goose / Ho / Brand

the latter -- absolute murder, 181bpm dancefloor stomper.

it's rough because i just switched all the gear on and did a
take in a hurry before the attic overheated. it has some
dave monolith mixing problems. but fuck off i did this in
about fifteen minutes


...but, this one bit. on cans -- loud. sorry. start at 1:29
perhaps

listen for thea macho backup dance squad constructed out of
pure delay. perceptually, it's like 2 o'clock

-- "GOOSE BRAND respekt, respekt."

go-oose brand   re-spekt at 1:54
"GOOSE BRAND!!" at 1:51 backwards

macho backup dance squad thrown into a blender;
cinematically reconstituted
-- (2:00-2:08 goo-oo-oose, respekt, respekt, respekt) but
you're fading

-2:18 ~ a pause, a nod
then a slap and wake up you marionettes
i'm twisting the valve that keeps you upright all the way
open


because based on one promising segment, this could be an
absolute banger if, next time, i have perhaps a half hour
before the attic overheats. to fix the levels, and have a
more coherent overall flow so i don't have to explain
anything at all



 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-07-28 04:14 [#02629478]
Points: 4442 Status: Regular



Is it possible

to make the one perfect thread

that NO ONE will ever read?


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-07-28 04:16 [#02629479]
Points: 4442 Status: Regular



I made it 3 lines myself.

"hey / Goose / Ho / Brand"

it included a link which I didn't click. the line made no
sense at all, and every instinct said it wasn't worth
parsing on any level, so I opted not to.

Perhaps written in proper english?


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-07-28 04:19 [#02629480]
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given the 3 lines I read

the thread is about imaginary corporate logos

and something about a goose.

there is a local restaurant in Menlo Park called the "Dutch
Goose" which is really good. But not because of the name,
rather, it's for the food.

It's the kid of place where everyone carves their name into
the table, even though their clientele rolls in with the
newest Tesla after venturing their capital all morning. I
truly hate Menlo Park, but the Dutch Goose is still aight.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 06:33 [#02629481]
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nevermind. i fucking quit


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-07-28 11:17 [#02629482]
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The Goose Brand™ CEO steps down abruptly amid sexual
misconduct allegations after tense online interaction.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 12:47 [#02629483]
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i may go off topic, but i did at least talk about sushi
rather than how i'm not clicking a link even though i saw
it; we made a point of that. eat fucking shit, you tart.

http://lstree.xyz/q/zilt/heyGooseHoBrand.flac

it's still not the best version, i'm just trying to pull it
out of the back of the mix. it's still hard. for you to
understand


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 12:48 [#02629484]
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http://lstree.xyz/q/zilt/spektDaGoose.flac


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-07-28 13:55 [#02629485]
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lol, see you do have a command of the english written word
at times.
"eat fucking shit, you tart" was a good line.

your problem is a THESIS one. I did not know what this
thread was about. You went so far off beat at the start that
you lost the audience. Had no idea you were spamming tracks
based on what I was willing to read. Yes, I identified a
link buried in your thesis statement... which was, ahem:
"hey / Goose / Ho / Brand"
This specific combination of words, spacing, slashes manages
somehow, to uniquely roll of the eye and deter further
reading. That was MY point anyway.

You scroll down further and see more of this:

macho backup dance squad thrown into a blender;
cinematically reconstituted
-- (2:00-2:08 goo-oo-oose, respekt, respekt, respekt) but
you're fading

and at that point all I'm getting is the aesthetic with no
discernable content. A poem put through a machine, shredding
and sputtering out its analysis and formatted like some html
code or something.

As for the link though, the light was already leaving my
eyes as I hovered over it. Some lystree.xyz stuff that my
brain put in the spam mail folder. .xyz? that can only be a
virus.

Turns out it's a song though, and I'll give her a listen
later.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-07-28 13:58 [#02629486]
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actually i need to take a walk around and stretch, I'll pop
these on headphones now.

I almost always have time for music, but less time for
reading through nonsense, so the only context im really
giving the music is this is your idea of corporate jingles
or some shit.


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-28 15:01 [#02629488]
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this thread reeks of gay lol


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-07-28 16:22 [#02629490]
Points: 4442 Status: Regular | Followup to mermaidman: #02629488



lol


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-07-28 16:26 [#02629491]
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It was a good tune, I listened like 4 times.

Nice kinda Gescommy drums. Squiggly bass a touch loud in the
mix, drowns out a few of the other interesting stuff you
have. Overall sorta reminded me of walking around in a
crowded casino or arcade. No geese detected though

the other track didnt work


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 17:50 [#02629496]
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if you listen to The Goose Brand™ [link fixed]

my "audio logo" at the start. you do hear that this says
"Theeee. Gooose. Brand." yes? if you can't perceive that,
stop reading. the rest will be useless. but i'm figuring you
can.

rest of the track, the melody keeps saying: "It's. The.
Goose Brand! It's. The. Goose Brand!" -- but through melody
and texture instead of words. maybe this is called a tone
poem or something? not sure

...but i do this all the time. that you'll giggle once you
see how all over some of my stuff it is. it extends into...
count the number of ways i've made bits of melody honk and
other things that exude goose-ness

this is our baseline. me putting words into my melodies,
synth patches, rhythms, because it's just how i do


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 18:12 [#02629497]
Points: 22898 Status: Regular | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02629496



a day or two after...

...recording Hey / Goose / Ho / Brand and instead of a "just
a tone poem" it sounds like a group of people that don't
exist are singing.

i actively use pareidola in composing -- hear something in
the mix, realize it wasn't there, and, hey, that's a good
idea! and then deliberately put it in -- so i can tell you,
this ain't that. not completely, anyways

...because when i listened to Hey / Goose next day, the
singers were ALL GONE?

...then i managed to find them again, and at that point... i
was completely unable to go back to how i heard it before,
with no singers?

[i mentioned 2 o'clock in the sense of stereo field, just a
bearing to find it for yourself]

so, curious, did a take for which i deliberately swapped the
casio drums out -- to make the words different. because if
this is as interesting as i am thinking, the backup singers
should sing the new words based on the new drums. that
resulted in ~

http://lstree.xyz/q/zilt/spektDaGoose.flac

"...'spekt the goose! 'spekt the groove!" and holy. shit.
now i am salivating and i need to get inside what's going on
inside this. because it's awesome, and i need to figure out
how to make it so you simply hear it, and don't have to hunt
around the track based on my hints.

so i thot: maybe someone has the answer?

... or maybe it's worth posting that i've been composing
with words for so long that my gear has finally started to
talk. someone call squarepusher


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 18:30 [#02629498]
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[hints for 'spekt The Goose ~

sounds like one guy at first, by 30 we have a squad... at
this point, i gradually mix in some cheesy day-glo general
midi. makes it easier to hear them until a certain
threshold, so it brings out the voices a bit more at start,
then gradually fades to being so prominent it destroys the
illusion for a bit at 0:40

[according to this [proper IDM seeming] Diana Deutsch chick
you might hear this differently depending on whether or not
you're right-handed

.... and i think: yes, this sounds like my stop on the art
train]]


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 18:42 [#02629499]
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w/rt "not pareidola"

when recording i'm listening to my backup singers, where are
they at? i've just put them into the blender and now i need
to [cinematically] reconstitute them. making live decisions
on this perception. the day after. because, once i find
where they live again, they are 100% consistent between
takes, across days.

so, "you got lucky somehow with the sounds and frequencies,"
no arguments. i have before. but not quite this oddly


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 19:26 [#02629502]
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so -- summary --

i presumed that TGB™ was so huge that it'd be like
explaining a CVS; apologies. TGB™ not the point -- you
don't need to know what TGB™ is [though it's on tap if you
want to follow the submarine twits to the bottom of the
ocean]. However, if you are "down" with The Goose Brand™
then you'll nod knowingly: well, this showed up at an apt
time

currently: i'm trying to reverse engineer this feedback
network i've stumbled into, in which my usual "cheeky,
clever, but still merely tone poems or whatever" went to "i
have a hype squad, i can scale them anywhere from one to
many, and they're saying: "goose brand, goose brand,
respekt, respekt"


they live somewhere around 2 o'clock in my perceptual field.
more in the sense of "above you" 2 o'clock, but sometimes
also inside your head, or your chin.

[depending on whether or not you're left or right handed?]
you might hear them somewhere other than 2 o'clock in any
sense.

very clear origins of their harmonics in some of the
frequencies of the casio, etc. and more, but it's very
liminal. it may require equally deep trickery to get your
average ear to the right place, in the right way, at the
right time. it's kind of like a magic eye illusion or
something?

in [previous few posts] i describe deliberately altering it
and injecting a radioactive general MIDI tracer for study.

objectics:

- i'm looking for an explain other than "pareidola" --
because never once has pareidola responded to me handing out
a new set of lyrics so professionally

- can anyone else even find/hear it? where do they seem to
live to you, in a stereo imaging sense?

- obviously good cans are best. spektTheGoose will survive
slightly better on speaker monitor monitors


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-28 19:54 [#02629503]
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gayer by the minute!


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 19:55 [#02629504]
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the intro of "Hey / Goose / Ho / Brand" they're singing
something like:

that groove. my groove. i got to stay in my groove.
i've. got. to. stay. in. my per-fect groove


i didn't write these lyrics, but i immediately recognize the
style as of those manic japanese DDR songs i like. and,
shit, this means i probably subconsciously based the whole
track off of one of them, and my backup singers improvised
appropriate lyrics. clever bastards


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 20:01 [#02629505]
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obviously certain frequencies correspond to, like a trio of
male vocalists doing the backup/hype squad thing. there are
plenty of EQ presets for this, even, which i've been
studying

fragments of the casio bounce around delay and eq and
something something i've bodged up a primitive vocoder. that
i'm programming in drums based on english language phrases,
and the timing of the drums partially drives the time of the
delay

e.g. perhaps ~

1. start with some "male backup vocalist" EQ preset
harmonics and make it go "guh"
2. stuck looping delay in the middle ooOoOO
3. timing of drums running this all along; unstucks the
delay Ssrh but you hear it as -se


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-28 20:20 [#02629506]
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if the brand's name is the goose than why you call it the
goose brand? do you call mcdonald's the mcdonald's brand? oh
i tell you why cause it's gayer that way


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 21:12 [#02629508]
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you're effectively asking about the origins of The Goose
Brand™ -- which, if told of, you would then declare gay as
hell, and this is a setup, and i am not answering your
question; GOOD DAY SIR


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 21:16 [#02629509]
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The illusion was discovered by Deutsch in 1995 when she
was preparing the spoken commentary on her CD ‘Musical
Illusions and Paradoxes'. She had the phrase ‘sometimes
behave so strangely' on a loop, and noticed that after it
had been repeated several times it appeared to be sung
rather than spoken.


you see? there are people like me out there
and why does no one seem to want in on like LAZY_TITLE

i think you are all too busy setting up a signal chain of
lights and mirrors so you can know THE MOMENT the manchester
track moves off the truck from the vinyl factory and onto
the giant shipping barge taking it to civilization. or
something. poor bastards


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 21:26 [#02629510]
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LAZY_TITLE

Make sure that your sound system is set for stereo, and
that the two loudspeakers are balanced for loudness. In a
‘phantom words’ demonstration, each track contains two
words, or a single word composed of two syllables, and these
are repeated over and over again. The same sequence is
presented through both loudspeakers, but the tracks are
offset in time so that when the first sound (word or
syllable) is coming from the speaker on the left the second
sound is coming from the speaker on the right; and vice
versa. Because the sounds coming from the two loudspeakers
are mixed in the air before they reach our ears, we are
given a palette of sounds from which to chose, and so can
create in our minds many different combinations of sounds.

It works well to have a pen and paper in front of you, so
that you can write down the words and phrases that you hear.
Often people initially hear a jumble of meaningless sounds,
but after a while distinct words and phrases suddenly
emerge. It often seems that the left and right loudspeakers
are producing different words, which sometimes appear to be
spoken by different voices. So write down separately the
words that you hear as coming from the left, and those that
you hear as coming from the right.


...and i'm sure she's used recorded voices, but no reason
you can't use a modular or such to generate similar, right?


[or some delay pedals and the right balance of source
material with a termite mound of EQ in the middle]

since you can induce pareidola in a listener... can you pin
it down? so there will be repeatability across listens and
listeners? just kind of corner the mind so it's left with no
conclusion but... whatever you want.

like "CVS" because they are a client that'd pay well


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 23:29 [#02629520]
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i suppose it's true. the origin of The Goose Brand™ is the
use of guided paredolia¹ and this is, perhaps, even more
gay than canoes:


i'm not sure if the contrapositive of NORMAL MODE is GOOSE
BAND, but as i cannot rule it out, i have to rule it in
that
it was actually GOOSE BRAND and that would make much more
sense, yes! that it started as a fuzzy blob. my brain
eventually decided to perceive it as a goose. at that point
i consciously take over and think: "it's a goose wearing a
poofy jacket, it looks like a logo on a poofy jacket" and
so
then the part of my brain that made it a goose in a poofy
jacket in the first place said, "oh, alright" and the text


...and it's The Goose Brand™ so it can nudge The North
Face™ neurons in your brain... but Land's End uses a goose
and a triangle... and the color scheme of the logo is from
my 303.

¹ this, but i turned on subtitles and rapidly
clicked through the video timeline to finish it in five
minutes instead of 37.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-28 23:31 [#02629521]
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I'm indulging mermaidman so I have an excuse to explain:

Indiana Jones "you're digging in the right place" to then
start making an album called The Goose Brand™ and then
promptly get wedged in this weird as shit crap where "what
the fuck. this cannot be pareidolia because IT IS NEVER
ANYWHERE NEAR THIS CONSISTENT"

...and I wasn't even sure why I was pulled into making this
album like I accidentally stepped on a black hole until that
happened and I'm reading about Diane Deutsch

also the logo will look sharp on hats; people like hats. you
can sell those


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-29 02:13 [#02629526]
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http://lstree.xyz/q/zilt/spektDaGoose.flac just
mixed to be easier to find at the expense of everything
else, effectively a demo

so if that does not work, stop there. but this:

http://lstree.xyz/q/heyHoSecondAgo.flac

i have the geese up and running along with my backup
singers, and the structure is more towards that of an actual
track, namely: i don't use the singers throughout, just
another part. which is the level of: this is more than a
novelty, it feels like a stable wormhole, so let's doodle an
actual track on a napkin next


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-29 02:15 [#02629527]
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g'nite.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-30 09:48 [#02629536]
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in the end, this may not be quite what i hoped. i'm still
not sure. but currently my thoughts are:

my drums match my word-phrases so closely they could run a
sock puppet making the mouth motions. 'spekt da goose,
'spekt da groove
-- the breakbeat and the casio beat on
top of them, stacked, match perfectly.

it's not just the timing, it's the frequencies...
spekt! largely hails from the snare on the breakbeat,
while "goose" is more from the way the casio toms bleed into
a smoother unified thing when you distort the shit out of
them.

then the more nebulous thing that i am still trying to pin
down [so i can expand it to billboard size and make it dead
obvious, no work for the listener] is that my delays are
doing something that's stealing some of the right
frequencies at the right time to -- as i suggested before --
construct a primitive bodged speech synthesizer by grabbing
the right frequencies, getting stuck and holding them for a
bit, at the right times.

then the delays follow each other to the point where it's
very hard to say anything for certain other than: they
follow the drums as a basis. then they go off each other in
timing and begin to do something that leaves me very
confused about these liminal voices deep in the back corner
of my mix.

...but i've based this all off of words, and, so, when i
change the words, it makes sense that the illusion follows
the change. that the core answer is "your stuff just stomps
on words so hard they've come bleeding out of the machines"
and "so of course the words change when you change the words
the drums are saying to you"

the panning is the deepest mystery to me. that i perceive it
as living at 2 o'clock, but all the knobs are centered
except a few left accidentally a tad to the left. the only
stereo delay is the one built into the mixer. but then
panning will go into... busses 3 and 4 are a stereo pair but
are fed back into entirely separate machines and there's the
maze doing this


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-30 11:06 [#02629538]
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someone -- indeksy -- told me that there are vocals in
autechre's "dael" and i'm like: nahhhh you're messing with
me. really?

i've still never heard them, but i didn't actually go back
to listen after that because... oh, ppf. i think i'll go put
that on again now


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-30 11:27 [#02629539]
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> indeksy

...mm, no, i think russell, with indeks backing him up on
it. and this was on discord? i think. so it was a while back


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-30 16:18 [#02629543]
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i still don't hear shit in dael except a sampled dog bark
bouncing around an alley. sounds like a rough neighborhood


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-30 16:23 [#02629544]
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In this ground-breaking synthesis of art and science,
Diana Deutsch, one of the world's leading experts on the
psychology of music, shows how illusions of music and
speech--many of which she herself discovered--have
fundamentally altered thinking about the brain. These
astonishing illusions show that people can differ strikingly
in how they hear musical patterns--differences that reflect
variations in brain organization as well as influences of
language on music perception. Drawing on a wide variety of
fields, including psychology, music theory, linguistics, and
neuroscience, Deutsch examines questions such as: When an
orchestra performs a symphony, what is the "real" music? Is
it in the mind of the composer, or the conductor, or
different members of the audience? Deutsch also explores
extremes of musical ability, and other surprising responses
to music and speech. Why is perfect pitch so rare? Why do
some people hallucinate music or speech? Why do we hear
phantom words and phrases? Why are we subject to stuck
tunes, or "earworms"? Why do we hear a spoken phrase as sung
just because it is presented repeatedly?
In evaluating
these questions, she also shows how music and speech are
intertwined, and argues that they stem from an early form of
communication that had elements of both.


LAZY_TITLE ~ this does seem why i've arrived here. that
i just do what it tells me. and it's very urgently wanting
this Goose Brand album, and... i don't get it? but alright.
and the point, i now realize, is for me to dig into
pareidolia more properly, part of which was finding this
lady


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-30 16:24 [#02629545]
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i mean i've never even heard of some of these!

The glissando illusion is an auditory illusion, created
when a sound with a fixed pitch, such as a synthesized oboe
tone, is played together with a sine wave gliding up and
down in pitch, and they are both switched back and forth
between stereo loudspeakers. The effect is that the oboe is
heard as switching between loudspeakers while the sine wave
is heard as joined together seamlessly, and as moving around
in space in accordance with its pitch motion. Right-handers
often hear the glissando as traveling from left to right as
its pitch glides from low to high, and then back from right
to left as its pitch glides from high to low.


LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 07:22 [#02629570]
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I've sold The Goose Brand™ to Riced Out
Industries for an undisclosed sum.


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-31 10:40 [#02629572]
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riced out industries brand


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 13:05 [#02629574]
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hey man this is serious ok? riced out industries
produces everything from dodgy art lamps shaped like birds
to -- now -- jackets with bird logos. they have a shadowy
operation in poland. their marketing department is a beast.
however, riced out records seems to have been a victim of
cost-cutting in recent years


 


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