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When you’re going to kill people remember the rule. KILL YOURSELF FIRST. Then kill others But always kill yourself first!!! 😥😥 |
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raffi wrote bananaphone. i think we need a rule about writing songs like that as well |
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~ true fact. i used to post on the forum fucksociety.ca run by the deplorable dave teatro. i'm sure he's in a gutter somewhere, eating spoonfuls of lard from a tub. same as back then, really a lighthearted interlude. i'm cheering for texas, so i can post "1" tomorrow |
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Death toll increases to 8 after car plows into a crowd in front of a Texas shelter that was housing migrants [1] Day Since A Texas Shooting |
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i was just thinking, that... you know... DeSantis was kind enough to bus Massachusetts some migrants all the way from Texas. i think it'd be only fair if Massachusetts returned the favor and bussed a clue down to the south |
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"The attack is one of at least 199 mass shootings this year in the US with four or more people shot" what?! :( |
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Yeah ameican a and guns are fucking out of control 😥😥 That’s what happens with the nra And every 5 year old playing shooter guns They arnt all bad but it can’t…… Parents need to teach their kids right from wrong!! |
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i did pause for a moment before making this thread. like: this could be a bit of a crazy ride when it regularly fails to make it past 2-3 days ...and, first day: "Welllll... that's not technically a shooting" -- already we're off to the races, here. "The attack is one of at least 199 mass shootings this year in the US with four or more people shot" what?! :( i had the exact same reaction when i read this a week or so ago. which is part of why i did make the thread |
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i found a copy of the vid -- i think reddit, they're about who is left to get it from, before torrent, without entering a personal phone number to prove your age. it's simultaneously clear and ambiguous: this is very definitely either A) he aimed for them and floored it, and he's an idiot and didn't realize the curb would flip his car at that speed, or B) he was loaded and half nodded off, sagging into the gas pedal as he's running a red light and i actually lean towards B, simply because there's not really much reaction from him. the car is on a straight, direct line towards these people, but there's neither an attempt to aim nor avoid. mostly it's just the completely placid, utter lack of reaction as shit goes horrid -- even if it were deliberate, any sober driver would have twitched and at least attempted to keep the car in control instead of sleepily letting it all happen like a halcion dream i watch these things when i feel the news is too full of shit and it's important i take a moment to make up my own mind about the matter, from the only direct evidence available. on that level, this one's actually not too bad. not close enough to be genuine traumatizing. but i've still saved you from watching it, if you trust my assessment |
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probably the most surreal one of these [no, really, just don't] videos was the new zealand guy. because he sounded exactly like the guy, who i've spent countless hours watching. and when i say it sounded exactly like him, i mean he's even narrating it aloud as he shoots people like the EEVBlog guy. that one, i downloaded because there was some fit about it being available online, and i was really just being a bit, like, fuck you. and i was utterly not expecting what i got. that the guy himself, like, treats this all as a lark. someone on SA tastelessly loaded the doom music over this and added gfx so it's like he's in an FPS [didn't watch that one, just read of it] and, yeah, absolutely. so that one, believe it or not, isn't bad either. but combined with the EEVBlog guy voice and chipper attitude, it was... dissociative. uncomfortably. despite how you really don't see any gore. i've never watched the really bad stuff, terrorist beheading etc. there's no mystery to solve there [these people are violent shitheads] but NZ guy i just needed to see what the fuss was about. probably the only one that truly haunts me, actually, is a guy electrocuting himself standing on top of a train somewhere in india. i won't describe it any further. |
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^^ pretty much, i've made this thread, i should clarify where i sit on it all etc. and there you go. |
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alright. the dismal state of current affairs is: i'm relieved to say i think the guy in the land rover was just drugs. that this is a relief. because i don't think it was intentional i realized: i've seen it before with my own eyes. there was a guy on a local highway, and i have my eye on this gentleman because he's driving... weird. like, i'm waiting for him to fuck up badly, weird. quietly keep my distance. we come to a light at an apartment complex the size of rhode island, and he stops at the red light perfectly well then, fifteen or twenty seconds later... he just starts going. as if the light turned green. right into some lady's car. i was on the fence about whether i should stop myself, given i was a lane over and, like, four cars behind... but, no, other people are on it already; i'd rather not be a part of this. i drove back that way an hour later and saw the guy sitting in the driver's seat of his destroyed car -- legs out the door, sideways -- being grilled by both cops and paramedics and now that i think about it: he's stuck at a red light and he uses this as a chance to insufflate some opiates and/or downers. then he nods off. and leans on the gas pedal that i always figured that guy was loaded and thought the light turned green, for whatever reason. but, no, that was about the amount of time you'd need to do a few bumps and start to pass out a few more hours, texas, and we can add a day. fingers crossed |
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us population is 331,000,000. There are probably more than 199 that literally had sex with their own grandmother in that time. just for some perspective. |
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that was referring to the number of mass shootings, which is defined as shootings in which four or more got shot, i believe. and i didn't even specify "mass shootings" i just said "since a texas shooting" but if i covered the small ones too we'd run out of disk space on the board. [2] Days Since A Texas Shooting |
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have you ever seen the Jason Stateham new version of Death Race? solidly ok movie. but at the start, there's a scene where a bunch of blue collar guys are getting stiffed out of back pay after being laid off by Exploitative Corporation, angry yelling. Then a whole grip of cop cars descend on the scene, cops start pouring out of them like bees, and now everyone's duking it out in a riot. And Jason Stateham says -- please hear this in Jasson Stateham voice in your head; this matters irrationally much to me like clockwork. there are already news articles like "gun owner at mall shooting now wants gun control" and meanwhile the vast majority of them that weren't at the mall that day are like AW HELL NO and so the desire to tamp down on the insanity will likely unleash some proper insanity over the next few weeks/months. and buckle in |
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ironicly the quickest way to get AR's banned, actually |
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i guess it's worth stating my opinion on the other side of the situation unequivocally: i support your right, as an american, to sleep with a glock under your pillow. but a 9mm and a backup for home defense; a hunting rifle... i see no argument for much beyond that. oh, people are collectors? stuff off. collect guitars or something like a normal person. something something, make it incredibly expensive to own more than three guns. $50/year fee. fourth $500. fifth $5k. sixth and already most people are priced out but the real problem is all the shit guns. people know grandpa has seven guns and he won't miss the one behind the cereal box in the cupboard. or guns that are mostly broken and taped together and used once and thrown out. these do a lot more damage than ARs. but no one goes into a mall with grandpa's vintage luger either i generally favor practicality |
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theres numbers on guns in the house aswell surely they dont look very good either. my mother recently had a family drama on the lawn of the midi highrise she has a flat in. the father who had a restraining order was circled by special forces after he went out so seek his child and exwife with a gun. red dots all over the grass until he shot himself in the chest. the local bank atm got blown up multiple times each of the past years and her neighbour was stolen 30.000 cash from her flat at gunpoint (although everyones guess is insurance fraud in this one) this is a rather new development. afaik none of us thought or talked about getting armed and i wouldnt see what the benefit was. it only increases the risk of getting shot or accidents or the occasional murder. |
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that i'm a yankee and i'll admit limits on my understanding of the south. but you go up to the boonies in western mass, or off to maine, and there's an Appalachian variant of the same thing -- except up here, we're not hospitable. we're quite rude but the real thing i'd hone in on is theres numbers on guns in the house aswell surely they dont look very good either. the abundance of guns is a problem that can be addressed without violating peoples' second amendment rights, which i've clearly stated i support. how many guns do you reasonably need? being a collector, well, fuck off. can i collect hydrogen bombs in my shed too? so then i say: the first three, perfunctory administrative fee. $50/year. won't even cover the paperwork. because we're not trying to stop you from sleeping with a glock under your pillow. i never would, but if a roommate wanted to i'd merely shrug. then you have a backup. a hunting rifle. the fourth gun, a more fun one for the weekend, perhaps, now that's $500 a year and still most can afford that. the fifth, though, $5k a year, and suddenly you're thinking about which ones matter most and you've trimmed your collection down. there are probably things like this that have been suggested, even tried, and gone down in flames. i'm just saying what i feel is reasonable. and i'll note i deeply resent being told what to do as much as anyone. and with all the craziness, well, i wouldn't blame you for sleeping with a glock under your pillow. but you're just taking the piss when you say you need an AR ...blowing up an ATM? christ. odd timing just today i was thinking how the bank ATM is not only in the card-access iso bubble, but built into the wall of the bank so no one can... nevermind, guess they still can |
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i'll be a complete nerd and say: what's an ATM have in it, $10-20k? guessing. the classic is thieves rent a forklift, pick up the ATM, carry it off, withdraw the cash at their own convenience somewhere more private. the shit expensive ATMs at gas stations, obviously, free-standing little shits, probably have far less. meanwhile, if you're blowing up the wall of a bank to get to an ATM's nutty innards... for $10-20k... with inflation costs, explosives are expensive, and... that's a lot of risk, a lot of effort, for what i see that clearing. sounds rough out there |
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i've never actually fired a gun. but i'm a bit of an obsessive sort, and there have been multiple stretches where i actually got, like, almost vaguely good at CounterStrike. and as such, i have some fond feelings about both glocks and the krieg. i can translate my gushing love over synths, that few really seem to understand, to guns, in light of these feelings from just a game. if synthesizers could kill you might have a point in saying, "but what if i tried to limit the number of synths you have?" -- but they can't, and you don't |
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had some good debates with the roomate who... not under his pillow, but there were definitely a bunch of guns under his bed. |
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further refinements to my well-intended vision that will never actually happen you know what? if you are over 21 and i'm confident safety/security is taken seriously, you should be able to go to a place and fire a freaking howitzer if you want. but it can't leave the premises. for something that dangerous you need two guys watching you, new jobs for people that are so obsessed with the big stuff they can't leave it for just the weekend. for an AR, i guess a single minder will do. but it has to be a good minder, and they have to be paid well. meanwhile, instead of going to $50k for gun six we just keep it at $5k a gun from there. then we take the money from oil billionaires being "ppf!" and retaining their 200-gun collection and send the cash to the california reparations thing. |
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that you'll probably need some exceptions. that i'm putting on my stern judge face, peering over old man glasses, and "why do you need this exception? you need six different kinds of really weird esoteric guns for dispatching livestock? show me references? ok, weird, it's actually a thing, ok, exception granted." next case: "you need some fancy gun you saw in a movie because deer wander on to your property sometimes? denied" i'd be a good judge until i got bored and began messing with people, really. |
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that i maintain we'll never make it to having star trek replicators because there's no way you can stop some bipolar nut like the guy from 13 Monkeys from building something civilization-grade bad; as soon as we get even close we'll all be dead. people are saying this about the current arc of AI stuff but they're underestimating how much it'll take to... well, i tried having it write some python code for me, and it was utter shit. but if you can't code at all it probably seems good i won't even share the details for obvious reasons, but i was just thinking: if i were so motivated, how much damage could i do before anyone stops me? i'm confident i could raze an area the size of rhode island at least. |
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you know what actually terrifies me? and people either laugh... or ask me what it means, and then they laugh? another carrington event at least it'd cancel netflix |
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Boston operator (to Portland operator): "Please cut off your battery [power source] entirely for fifteen minutes." Portland operator: "Will do so. It is now disconnected." Boston: "Mine is disconnected, and we are working with the auroral current. How do you receive my writing?" Portland: "Better than with our batteries on. – Current comes and goes gradually." will this also work with my fiber link? |
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i guess i'm saying: there are things worse than texas, and far more credible disasters to consider than AI apocalypse. the recent test of musk's "starship" ended in what was cheekily described as "a rapid unscheduled disassembly," e.g. it fucking exploded. in the same manner, feb 2022, 40 starlink satellites also experienced a rapid, unscheduled disassembly as they found themselves unable to weather a solar storm and burned up in the atmosphere. and if we get a good 'un -- why, yes, amazon is launching zillions of satellites of their own too, and six other companies are also doing this -- and oh hello they're all raining down from the sky. that they will probably burn up in the atmosphere and not actually rain flaming garbage on anyone. the planet is actually large enough that it's more likely to hit the ocean than land however, any planes currently in the air will not conveniently burn up in the atmosphere, and will be far less likely to crash down in unpopulated areas. have a nice day |
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personally, my guess and statistically proven seems to be less guns, means less deaths by guns. so decreasing the number is probably a good idea. i dont remotely see the necessity to have 1-4 guns without a greater hassle, but if the majority of u.s. people choses its what they want (or more as it is), its their decision. as with counterstrike etc., i played a lot of shooters in my life and fancied the (secret) toy gun in my childhood never transfered that into real life. guess the pacifist attitude of my upbringing was greater. or maybe i just feel like having guns is kind of dangerous and foolish at times. back to politics: we dont want a general speed limit in germany, which would result in less accidents and reduce co2 without further cost, but people with fast cars wouldnt be allowed to go fast. its a weird comparison but the death toll about equal in the u.s.. in 2021 the u.s. had roughly the same amount of deaths in traffic as with guns (about 45.000) guns was leading by a margin of 2.000 or so, thats why i brought it up without further point. |
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personally, my guess and statistically proven seems to be less guns, means less deaths by guns. so decreasing the number is probably a good idea. i dont remotely see the necessity to have 1-4 guns without a greater hassle, but if the majority of u.s. people choses its what they want (or more as it is), its their decision. exactly. i picked my numbers deliberately. there is not a snowflake's chance in hell we will never get all guns banned, not in the current climate. if you tried to put me in charge of everything, i'd promptly resign -- too much work, thanks -- but if you put a gun to my head (seems and apt metaphor) i'd take away everything immediately. then i'd go around and interview people lightly, nothing invasive, and if they seem reasonably sane give them back one handgun and a hunting rifle. anyone impatient or rude gets no supper; no guns. but this is america. this is reality. and back when, i spent a year and a half living with a gun nut... who was very sharp, and delighted in arguing just as much as i did. that, effectively, over that time, we both put a lot of deep work into getting very clever with each other, and it was actually kind of strange when, after, i dunno, a year, we started hitting "i actually agree" and then it's just an awkward silence and we sip beer with no words because we're both not really sure what comes after that so: - three guns of the [handgun, rifle, shotgun] class for a fee so low the govt loses money -- to make it SUPER CLEAR we're not stopping you from pushing it right up to the line of "how many guns makes sense" - fourth gun $500/year, covers the money we lost, still affordable, more slack for gun fans - fifth gun and every gun after $5k/year what are you doing with this many guns - reasonably efficient hearing process to potentially get fees waived but no funny business mister - you can fire a howitzer at a range but it can't leave the premises |
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as with counterstrike etc., i played a lot of shooters in my life and fancied the (secret) toy gun in my childhood never transfered that into real life. guess the pacifist attitude of my upbringing was greater. or maybe i just feel like having guns is kind of dangerous and foolish at times. that's kind of it. it's a real toss-up, i have to concede -- not even shooters in general, but particularly counterstrike. they changed the names after lawsuits, but they're all real guns, effectively. the knives too [reportedly gabe newell has/had a massive collection of them in his office] but that CS has given me a fondness for glocks despite never having even fired a gun... like, thanks, glock. you've been so good to me. as i hunt people down i've never really felt an urge to get a glock, or any gun. i've never fired one. i would, probably, if the opportunity came up for free. but i really don't care much; it'd be more "oh sure cool" and then probably "check i've done that" and i still probably wouldn't want to buy one. however, the fondness -- i'd argue counterstrike is actually a good answer if you want to use an AR but we've all sensibly given them up but the hunting people down. when you're on a server where people yell at each other constantly, but it's just you and one other guy left, cat and mouse, and everyone is just... fucking quiet. sneaking around, throw a grenade through a window to make some noise and creep back the other way. however... when it's just you and one other guy, and he's simply a lucky n00b... i guess this is how cats feel playing with mice? strange. exciting. and perhaps it is a bit too real but it's been a game for 20 years and there's no unringing that bell. and overall, i think it's an appropriate replacement for owning an AR once they get banned -- for whatever reason. it's inevitable |
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back to politics: we dont want a general speed limit in germany, which would result in less accidents and reduce co2 without further cost, but people with fast cars wouldnt be allowed to go fast. its a weird comparison but the death toll about equal in the u.s.. in 2021 the u.s. had roughly the same amount of deaths in traffic as with guns (about 45.000) guns was leading by a margin of 2.000 or so, thats why i brought it up without further point. are you saying # of german traffic deaths equal # of american gun deaths? or that # of american gun deaths and # of american traffic deaths are equal? i'm not sure what your point is, but germans can drive cars properly, don't fuck with the autobahn |
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reduce co2 do germans like electric cars? i'd actually never even considered this. i have to say, i'm not sure how to call it. i'd lean towards no. part of fährengnugen are the resonant harmonics of the internal combustion engine, and, in asking germans to go electric, you're going up against something like those beer purity laws that are hundreds of years old |
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co2:go no, original, thx... but there's an entire discussion to be had around where CS can .go with presence, in the VR sense of the word. it happens in other games, but CS is the only one where i can just reliably... feel someone staring at me. feel someone around the corner. that i'll still reliably go and walk right into it sometimes just to see if i'm crazy and imagining it. and i'm not. and it's certainly not the graphics, which are actually celebrated for being somewhat crap. that's a full-bore tangent, though: CounterStrike as a study in next-level telepresence |
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you know what actually terrifies me? and people either laugh... or ask me what it means, and then they laugh? another carrington event you know why government actually terrifies me? because they're only as good as the information they have, and they have, right now, this, it seems: In June 2013, a joint venture from researchers at Lloyd's of London and Atmospheric and Environmental Research (AER) in the US used data from the Carrington Event to estimate the cost of a similar event in the present to the US alone at US$600 billion to $2.6 trillion (equivalent to $698 billion to $3.02 trillion in 2021" so this is an estimate from JUNE 2013 and someone on wikipedia has simply used a currency calculator to convert $2.6t to 2021 dollars, $3.02t and if you want to know how hopeless i am -- that, like, i do get stuff done. but like a magnet, i come back here because.... $3.02t?! and no, fuck off did people use the internet as much in 2013? did absolutely everyone ever have a smartphone in 2013? were all cars small rolling server farms in 2013? did as many people work from home in 2013, as did when wikipedia just used some online calculator to update your 2013 estimate to 2021 dollars? suffice to say it's putting it lightly to say $3.02t is probably a bit low, and how hopeless i am -- i actually remembered the specific number and i'm fucking mad about this number and dammit i'm walking back upstairs to post this. and i'm terrified that the government is all hurrDeDurr assuming that some assessment of how people depend on computerized crap made in 2013 is still relevant for policy today. and i'd be right to be terrified. and you can't shoot solar flares. guns are right out as a solution there |
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a lot of this would be more digestible if i could edit posts. if i could i'd kind of feel obligated to. however, since i can't, i'm off the hook. |
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