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, for the stab, now curious to know what the other samples are, because I'm guessing it's all samples (except for the kick and the bass) 's the 90s rap version. there's versions, though (i was reminded of this track, by interview with 2 Unlimited's Ray Sleingaard. which i watched because interview with Felix was pretty boring, unlike his track . and 's a how that's made. /youtube watch history) |
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really wish that Felix video was the 3 minute single version, though. it has such a weird, bad cut off |
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Old skool memories |
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this track is, like... it blows my mind how many times it's randomly come up. i actually feel like there's some reason for it that i don't fully understand -- something like, the right thing at the right time, but what that thing was and what time or why... i remember first girlfriend i ever had going on about the song out of nowhere. more recently, a sales guy at the office in his 40s went on a tear about it. it just kind of pops up like a gopher to an extent where it feels like there's something going on here that i don't quite understand i first heard it when i was 9, and, after seeing "Hackers" in the theatre and hearing, like, underworld and prodigy for the first time, it was kind of like "alright, i've been eying this 'techno' for a bit now, and that's it, i'm going out to the store" and of course this track was in the absolute first round of stuff i bought (1/2 of which wasn't even really techno and i mis-bought because i hadn't a clue) |
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Jesus, I don’t t know there was that many remix’s of it lol. I had a cd single that had 10 or so remixes on it James Brown Is Ded |
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i should dig up the other topic where we did some of this before but associated with those youtube vids are like... interview with teh abbeloos, how to make the stab from anesthasia. i haven't watched these yet and oh my gosh, yes. just very randomly, someone put me onto "guardiac" and dfgjhkdfg this is like, hell, prodigy^2, gremlins creeping out of the corners and eating the beats. and apparently there was some re-release in 2019 and i've missed it? we're on a bit of a dutch tip here on xlt as of late, aren't we? and T99. a proper fucking dutch dynamo |
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the whole album, really. it's impressive, like... how clearly it comes through? like, the skydreamer. it reminds me of RPG music in the 00's, and there's some native chattering, and... this is just me stretching my own references across, but between the title, the composition, the sampling... yeah. same as the parkers. etc |
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honestly the result of this thred is youtube reminded me of T99 and i've been listening to that all day. guardiac about to start on my cans right now. end of skydreamer and if you step outside yourself for a moment and just analyze the frequencies, like... it's not just a bassline in these tracks, there's a very physical sense of dynamics where the amplitude of the bassline... surges, moves, and it's hnnnNNNuunnNNugh and i've thot about this in my own music for quite a while. but then i'm listening to this again, and, dammit, you have such a clearer idea don't you? just listening to the EQ cutoffs on that bass |
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~ actually like a bassist in a rock band but then anesthesia? anastasia + anesthesia? i figure then, oh, youtube is dying, i can't find a non-shit copy of this so please don't sue me oliver duurBrpBrpptDUuuuuu and there's a synergy of the bassline pattern and amplitude, and wonderful EQ i don't understand, etc. and what i do understand is it stops being "oh the song has a bassline" and instead "the bassline has a physical shape" and being able to manage it at times doesn't mean i understand it. |
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here is i made it like 2003 or 2004. i just think of it it here for some raisin |
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i think the T99 stuff, just also so... like, this is not just composition, this is choreography. that there are some quite obvious motions to some of these songs, and that's something i'm also very much interested in that -- sorry, not dutch -- is wonderful, in that... to any living person, with perhaps a bit of pot and scotch... put this song on in an open space, speakers, good bass, reasonably loud and... pretend you have an air sword. swish it around. shuffle your feet forward and strike, you know, like the ninjas do. because, really, this song is just so... HOW DO YOU NINJA SWORD SO CEARLY WITH A TRACK? augh. then if you get into it, really focused -- that i recommend doing this with music every day, really? -- you realize that, deep into the song, there are just things like, eight ghostly sword arms coming out of your back. same as running drum machines really |
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HOW DO YOU NINJA SWORD SO CEARLY WITH A TRACK? i had this visualization in my head of a point going around a circle in a cartesian plane, and then i pull down from viewing it atop and rotate back downwards until i see it as a line, and, yeah, that tracks with the motion. something something sine cosine... |
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still haven't really cracked it though. still might be the ol'... just sit there until it swounds wordy |
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rave, though. i was actually thinking about the functional aspects here -- part of the reason -LAS-JBID has the just dieux, dieu, dudu by itself is to give people a moment to catch their breath before it really runs them. and everyone knows it and everything is organized here, thanks that one of the cleverest things i think, in anasthasia, there's this extended chill section they drop here and there, where it's almost just a sort of lazy stoner nod. it's about even enough time to go take a shot at the bar, perhaps. then, alright, break's over everyone -- and it explodes again |
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are the star blasts on the album cover nitrous? i've never actually tried whippits, nitrous, whatev. but i have heard descriptions of such visuals but then the way the lightning bolt noises snap to the beat, maximizor, if it's not too scandalous i think this album was co-authored by ketamine |
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but there are so many little... guardiac, 2:52, very natural to make hand signs, perhaps ~ visualizing from self perspective with right hand: one, two (hold up fingers) get down (pull finger #2 down, leaving a pointing up finger, which you then rotate to point... get down). backspin, fvhrt, fvhrt (rotating finger) yay! (throw your hands up in the air in a silly manner) and maybe this is how they wrote it even. |
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so the shape of the ear -- the pinna -- acts as a comb filter and this is crucial for how we tell whether or not a sound is coming from in front or behind. i think this is solid. but left and right... last i checked, it was like: "yes, obviously, the brain uses the relative amplitude between left and right, but if you're talking about the relative timing of the signals, we're not sure neurons can be that fast" and alright, let's see where they're at now. and wikipedia is like "....in 1948" and then "in 2015, we're still not really sure" i'd figure you could do alright if you have a sort of BBD mechanism that repeatedly copies the sound down the line into a fuzz, but also allowing you to slow it down, allowing a lower-resolution version of... where most of the sounds are coming from? then you glue it into everything else and perceive it as direction? but i'm thinking "sinusoidal fades and motions" is more key for sword |
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~ it sounds like a small club. like the concrete basement of a house. but that's just how large the sounds, sound to me |
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i thought till now that it was just a hit in my country. didn't know it's a staple |
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T99 i went over not too long ago, too. i saw some sensation white version, though. |
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ah, 's the choir stab |
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for the version without rap |
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i'm trying to figure out what you mean. are you speaking, like, synaesthesia, mind's eye, etc? or do you mean there's literally a version of the track named "white version" or something? on i think the purple-ish color is accurate. and some blues, on black. but that could just be me. the official "nevenen" color is #666699 like an old mimeograph. ...and there are all these videos, some of which actually look pretty good, about how the sounds were made. it's an embarrassment of riches. i actually haven't watched any of them yet, though, because i actually spent most of yesterday simply listening to the album. i bookmarked a whole bunch because they look fantastic... and then just kept listening to the album |
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i thought till now that it was just a hit in my country. didn't know it's a staple it's a freaking icon. and it surprised me too, really -- that, like, i find it when i'm 9 and i've gone to the store to buy "techno" for the first time, and now it's almost 30 years later and it keeps coming up. unlike a lot else i got that day so believe it or not, yes. people about my age, in the US... you'll actually get quite a huge amount of "OHHH YEAH I REMEMBER THAT" and again, i was surprised too. i'm actually curious about... the path that took. around the world etc |
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it's getting close. friends' kids are starting to get old enough. that soon enough i'm going to get a why the hell did you tell them about that song now we hear it all day long with absolutely no rest and/or every time we put the song on she breaks something, and she keeps demanding to hear it again |
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i'll check out the version, sounds interesting i read up on the dutch dj behind it . boring answer, sorry. (also no live video for song, even though it was the main theme for one edition, i'm pretty sure) |
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i'll check out the album, i meant |
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ohh, you mean you perceived it as white. JBID actually seems more towards that to me... it's... because it's strobe-y. strobe light etc. some study was done, they had synaesthetes pick color schemes for a piece of music or something, and none of them matched. then they had some normal people show up and pick color schemes, and none of them matched. then they did another round where everyone reviewed everyones' color choices and arranged them best to worst and the synaesthetes cleaned everyones' clocks even though their picks seemed vastly different and i come back to the classic phrase, "the map is not the territory" so there is no right answer to how a track "looks" but discussing it is still valuable |
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Sensation White. boring answer, sorry. (also no live video for this song, even though it was the main theme for one edition, i'm pretty sure) sorry i've jumbled things! continuing on because here we are i was, "oh, i'll put this on and go for a walk" -- first track. and what colors do i think... the first synth sound, pine tree green. almost like a screensaver drawing a pine branch across the screen. that it makes me feel a little cold. edges of driving through snow and pine trees on a crisply black road. but then i'm arguing with myself about the arp. and suddenly i find myself going yellow with it, and i think: you know, i don't usually use yellow... and it's increasingly abstract from there but it goes down to the tones of an oil painting in the TV room when i was growing up but then other people have, like an oscilloscope in their head, and it's almost like a piece of hardware they've had installed in there. i've more just spent so much time picturing it all, that... it's all made up of me picturing it, but it's developed its own opinions and will regularly surprise me by... yellow, hmm, that's unusual |
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a dirty yellow, i'll clarify. like, painting, i'd mix in a little blue and black. and the painting was... some painter reasonably well known; can't recall. but it's a lake in foliage season. there's not much pine in there; that's from elsewhere. but you need that dirty yellow to get the tones in that painting. and i suppose this means the sound evokes some rather specific flavor of nostalgia etc etc and you can begin to see how everyone can have entirely different color maps, and, so long as they have a thoughtful one, just chart through music and use it as a way to reach through the noise and pull out someone else's personal equivalent of that painting. but then, that vid, ketamine strut -- some of this can be unarguably universal, when drugs are involved |
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so, dutch stuff, right. tell me about this DDR track "butterfly" by, apparently, "Smile.dk" ? the domain name has obviously been ganked by something unrelated. but, to my ear (actually, my eye fed into the physical modeling of subvocalization) this sounds like a demoscene name, that someone did tracker music and they made the name up before it was even possible for them to register smile.dk -- a strong hunch curious about the story behind this, though -- some dutch guy sat down and tried to make a track that would fly off the shelves in japan? or maybe it all came from some drug hallucination? but "butterfly" is the one DDR track everyone knows |
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