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In this day and age? |
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better repent... |
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thing is you cannot prove either way so all hail the mighty spaghetti monster |
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If you ever feel in your heart that you're looking for answers, the old texts have a lot of answers. Though everyone has a right to believe what they want. We all have free will. I'm trying to say the Old Testament has answers for people's questions about life, in my opinion and experience. Remember what Bill Hicks said about dinosaurs and the bible? Actually I still don't know how to refute it. Guess they were in the garden of Eden but they couldn't fit on the Noah's ark? Whether every word of the texts should be taken literally is up for debate. |
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Like if you ever get a nagging feeling that you want answers and you can't find the answers, then a light goes on in your head and you realise that the answers were in the bible all along. Or you look at the stars in the sky at night and realise the deepness and vastness of the universe, if there was a supreme being who created everyone and everything it makes possible justice and the divine, including the afterlife. "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." The key here is the word many, imo most people go to the afterlife and enjoy a peaceful and prosperous future supported by God's love. The word some is also key here. Some to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who insult the creator have no good future. Some people deserve contempt. The book of Daniel shows that collective punishments are also possible for those who disgrace themselves in front of God. The whole families of the biblical Daniel's accusers were thrown into the Den of Lions? I'm no expert on the bible, I once described Daniel as a prophet, in Christianity he is considered a prophet but not in Judaism. It's good to get a grasp of the details. |
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"Atheism, in this day and age?" asked the Welshman, whose own nation had a long deep rich history of spirituality and ritual belief bludgeoned to death by the alien religion brought onto the isle of his forefathers due to the political machinations of a Roman Empire seeking to placate those to the west and those to east. "Whether every word of the texts should be taken literally is up for debate," continued this Welsh Judas, referring to the sewn-together Frankenstein of ancient texts from differing regional tribes, the minor war god of one having risen through the ranks of the translations, from Phoenician, Aramaic and such, into ancient Hebrew, where the Jewish people decided upon monotheism and enthroned this minor deity of destruction YHVH as their one true god; then further translations into Greek, gathering in Egyptian religious beliefs to help their invasion of that fine ancient African collection of states. Then further translations into Latin, as Rome decided it was good policy to adopt Christianity and spread this alien religion westwards to quell and control the good pagans of Europe, adopting further customs as their own, as this abomination usurped all before it, brainwashing the peasants with its hatred and arrogance. And now this Welsh member of a message board of middle-aged antiques, no expert on the bible, is shocked anyone could be an "atheist" in this day and age; because the Europeans tried so hard to force this religion on the entire world, their temporary evil subjugation using the hate of Christianity as defence for barbarity, enslavement and plunder. It isn't even ''atheism'', it's people who are no longer forced into believing the European perversion of a group of ancient Middle-Eastern religious beliefs twisted through generations of regional power strategies. |
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Marlowe for world President!!! Go Paul!!! |
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meanwhile from Marlowe's camp of enlightened individuals focused on dismantling "generations of regional power struggles": fuck outta here |
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you're SUCH a sour little baby bitch |
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that if you look back at human civilization, you absolutely never have anything grow beyond a hamlet without some sort of organized religion. the aztecs, the egyptians. then even the hamlets have some sort of religious ontology. i feel like this is because once you get to a group of 4!=4*3*2*1=24 it's too big for everyone to know each other very well. 5!=120 and you need some sort of overarching system to everyone to coordinate enough to keep growing. mammals are built to be flexible; adapt the environment. born with a quasi-blank slate and then harden into a match for actual living conditions. religion is a self-perpetuating informational structure that shapes this into a citizen of a particular society. modern times, yes, this is... medieval, and its history is full of violence and oppression. but you still need something to replace it with, if you want to get rid of it -- and this is partly why there's such a fight over fundie-izing the educational system in the US right now that some of it even still functions. a church is arguably a social data processing center of sorts, where everyone gets together, shares their problems, supports each other, connections get made to even solve some problems, then people pray for each other over the remaining ones, which is pretty much meditating on how to solve someone else's woes. i suppose none of this precludes being a theist, however |
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i drew the line at editing guns out of looney tunes. both sides of the aisle should agree that one is crap, methinks |
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when it comes down to it, people can complain about "power dynamics" all day long but what I just linked there is the actual *progressive solution* to them. Triggers me more than literally *anything.* China has nukes pointed at the US? My blood pressure is gonna rise less than reading that article right there. |
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can i call a black guy a moor? or do we need to woke-ify shakespeare, too? go into all those copies that are hundreds of years old with a trump sharpie |
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To his White Surprise, Marlowe learned that he was gatekeeping Welshness! |
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i think in 20-30 years -- if we make it that far -- we'll look back on rewriting the classics "for modern sensitivities" with a fair amount of embarrassment. taking a piece of cultural history and scribbling graffiti all over it. i am willing to bet on it, in fact |
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i've no idea how to pull it off, but it'd be something like... can we throw out all the medieval nonsense about a man in the sky, but then keep the churches, with the priests keeping their jobs too? and go ahead and keep meeting on sunday; why switch it up now? that was/am certainly one of ones to go, "why yes, the crusades were clearly what jesus intended, this religion has gone ~soooo~ well" -- but then realizing churches actually do fulfill quite a few important functions i've no answer, really. |
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i've always thought the catholic confession box was genius. arguably humanity's first proper stab at psychotherapy. i also think galen's humours are genius in a similar way -- this was humanity's first proper stab at what doctors would call "differential diagnosis." but it was done from a medieval perspective, and despite that being genius for the day, well, you can use leeches if you want to, i suppose. it does somewhat work similarly: chakras. great metaphor technology for the time. but from a medieval perspective without the threat of eternal damnation by a man in the sky, though, probably far fewer people would show up for church. perhaps you need that emotional gun to someone's head to keep it all from flying apart. i'm genuinely undecided on this |
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oh not the impotent old man with the biting john carpenter profile picture is waving his little fist at me, croaking "woke! woke!" as his lungs give out and he shits over his little prick, I'm so emasculated by this display of alpha machismo. how have you not died from getting high on your own cringe you daft old cunt. also fleetmouse, not white, good to see you sticking to your usual high standard of factual adherence, keep up the bootlicking comrade. |
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how do I shit over my own prick? I asked w M w once what his favorite sexual position was. EZ layup for w M W. His answer was the best: "it's when my tapeworm comes out of my ass and bites my balls" |
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is the joke that by not swallowing your prog. trash I've grown a second anus over my penis? |
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OR my penis is so small that it's beneath my asshole. But I would generally assume that would make it really long and the poop is hitting the tip |
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I see my haters have lowered themselves to engaging in ! This ain't it, chief! |
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re: woke agatha remember the controversy over the naming of the James Webb Space Telescope? they went with his name because he did Great Things in the space program. then someone discovered he was pretty enthusiastic about NASA's "find the fags and purge them" initiative back around when communism was more to Americans than a football team. so obviously, it exploded. protests, petitions to change the name meanwhile, i had never heard of James Webb. in all this, i learned both what he did for NASA (fair choice of name) but also of deplorable things he did alongside, in the same breath. that, in the context of the times, he was acting in a very all-american way to change the name and ship it off with some squeaky-clean name of a brown poet or something would be to wallpaper over the shame of our past misconduct. so i actually approve they kept the name. the man was a product of the times. keeping the name reminds us of this -- that it's kind of a scarlet letter. that i feel similar about, say, renaming the Audubon Society. perhaps even racist relic monuments from the civil war -- leave them. so we can say to each other... "wow, do you remember when we did shit like that? let's not do it again" |
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yeah man it's weird in the past 8 years or so that group has adopted a real "guilt by association" and "sins of the father" complex that seems ARCHAIC to me. Like I get you, epicmegatrax, personally don't like elon musk much. But you usually ring him up on merits that are his own. Venture into "Marlowe's Space," wherever the fuck he actually lives online (probably reddit, resetera, daily kos )and you find people shitting on him because his DAD was some kind of piece of shit. Cool, lets all base an individual's worth on what their pops did in a completely different culture and era. the "woke nasa" article that stood out to me, at the time was the guy who got cancelled for having sexy women on his shirt. |
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just to turn it back to Umbro's original religious points: latest stuff starts with a TIGHT sermon related to Jim Jones. love this track |
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i think it such an incredibly honest name, really -- as i said, James Webb did great things and deplorable things in the same breath. both ends were regarded as all-american at the time. now we've sent it out into space, along with what is arguably one of humanity's most inspiring accomplishments in 20 years. great things and deplorable things in the same breath. if anything out there is watching it, i think that's the right attitude. |
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i respect why people feel motivated to scrub the names of old racist barons off of everything, but... do i have to say it? those who do not know history, are... bluntly: if you scrub all the old racist shit off the map, you won't have anything to power Woke Rage anymore, it'll die off, then it really _will_ come back after everyone's forgotten |
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I don't respect it because it's just an eternal part of human nature that will never change. And they're right, it IS related to power dynamics. Here in the US, especially in older times, it was majority white, so racism was predominately against non-whites. Go to japan? It's against non-japanese. Go to africa? Best be black, otherwise you white boy. I mean who the fuck even cares, unless you want to feel "special". It's just how we are. The idea that racism is somehow the "worst thang" is, in my opinion, a spoon fed piece of virtue signaling so we can all pretend we have none of these tenants and are better than everyone else. It's the same "us vs. them" boogieman shit as usual. You know whats actually worse than having a racist thought? not saying thank you when someone holds the fucking door open for you at the grocery store. |
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don't plow down the alamo, waco, whatever. leave them as another scarlet letter¹ -- but also as a lightning rod. that trump just went to waco. ted nugent showed up too, and he's to play the national anthem, and he "shreds" it but keeps stopping to go into a bitchy rant, whatever his version of "how do I shit over my own prick?!" is ideally, someday, these places will still be about, but people will visit them with a more somber mood. ¹The Scarlet Letter, Nathaniel Hawthorne. Read in 2002 for school. Given that the gist of it is a woman becoming pregnant and being forced to wear a scarlet "A" for "Adultress" -- because the dad a bitch-ass coward -- and what this does to her life. That this is religion at its worst. So to call the name "James Webb Space Telescope" a "scarlet letter" -- fuck off, probably no one appreciates it, but my english teacher would be all "atta boy" right now |
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sorry bro that's my limit I don't know anything about waco other than they were some anti government types that inspired the oklahoma city bomber back in like 1995. I should look it up, but I GTG. |
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i don't either -- that's not the point. i really only know it because it's a conservative asshole¹ lightning rod and they keep talking about it! if you plow it down, the assholes will go somewhere else, that might not be as predictable. then, fingers crossed, we'll mature slightly and eventually it'll be like... jeez, i don't want to get too carried away. a war memorial is too far. more just like, you're visiting a museum of the nazi experiments based on cranium geometry and meanwhile, in the shaman sense -- leave the pile of poo there, so the flies all swarm it and leave you alone. and the smell reminds you of the poo that can happen ¹not implying that all conservatives are assholes -- but some are, and Ted Nugent is ~thoroughly~ one of them ozzie osbourne getting banned from texas for urinating on the alamo: is that being an asshole? after some furious internal debate, my answer is: it wasn't anything either way, he was just wasted |
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i feel like this is because once you get to a group of 4!=4*3*2*1=24 it's too big for everyone to know each other very well. 5!=120 and you need some sort of overarching system to everyone to coordinate enough to keep growing. remember the old proto-meme, six degrees of kevin bacon? this is generally called ramsey theory, and it's actually... the math is incredibly basic and you can still get shit out of it -- rarely satisfying, imo that you'll note i'm walking up the degrees-of-separation, here: in a group of one, it's just you. in a group of two, you have each other to consider. in a group of three, you have to consider your relationship with both people, as well as what they might say about you privately off in a corner. four people is starting to be an RPG party that could break off on a whim. but people are very much built to work with other people. what's large enough to be a village? more than ten. 4!=24 is about right. a village? 5!=120. town tops out at 6!=720, then past 7!=5040 you're starting to dip a toe into the waters of a metropolis but 5!=120 is the point where there can be "strangers" in the village whom you don't know much about, and that's where everyone needs a unified operating system, or it'll fly apart and break off into rival hamlets. meanwhile, religion arises in the first place because we need to depend on the sun, the moon, the seasons, for farming, which fueled all this information processing enough that we could get ourselves in this deep. |
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there was some theory like, "the maximum number of relationships any person can have is 133" or some number thereabouts. my first thought was: no! 5! but then it'd make sense to more or less top out at 5! but have some engineering wiggle room built into the top end, so perhaps it's essentially about everyone functioning as an interconnected network, like neurons |
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er: hamlet, village, town, city, metropolis, japan |
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electrons, dielectrics, transistors, functional logical units, larger-scale logical units like ALU, CPU, x86 general architecture, UEFI, Computer [with periphs], Operating System, System Stack, Network Stack, Programming Languages, User Applications, Live User Sessions, typescript, react, graphql, ruby on rails (or php/symfony), AWS instances, abstracted computer, abstracted x86 architecture, abstracted CPU, virtual machine simulating a whole computer stack, [...], an actual computer [a mere pebble in racks somewhere], UEFI, [...], then we eventually go back down to electrons. that probably totally blows it for the analogy i was trying to make. but i had fun working through that |
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back on topic [or, well, abandoning that nerd stack] without the threat of eternal damnation by a man in the sky, though, probably far fewer people would show up for church. perhaps you need that emotional gun to someone's head to keep it all from flying apart. i'm genuinely undecided on this i think this a real fundamental question of the utmost importance. that the bulk of the religious folk -- "people of the book" -- there's always this threat of, "live a good life, or you will go to hell forever" that if i think if you very diligently raise someone, the capacity for self-sacrifice will come naturally with wisdom. however, time is money, here, and it's easier to just scare someone into being a self-sacrificing lamb. the tactic can be arguably bad for the individual, but the opposite of this is... a sociopath? it is a survival tactic, based on informational integrity. but i suppose being a sociopath is also a social tactic that arises as a parasite to the collaboration; adapting to exploit the rules instead of support them. i was reading about Keith Raniere yesterday, and freak. ing. shit. this guy literally had a moment -- on his wiki page -- like mark "devo" mothersborg had when he decided to become an artist. except keith realized he was just a natural born talent to, arguably, out-do charles manson on level of scale. he was on the heels of scientology before he got busted, even i could go on for ages about all that. but point is: christianity would actually be pretty nice for everyone, except it gets reliably hijacked by genuinely talented sociopaths, the only goal of whom is to pound the lambs anally for hours every day Pope Announces Expansion of Sexual Abuse ...laws |
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changeing arts and stories to match current morals and to teach the right morals is a bad idea in so many examples. usually when you read shakespeare or classic historic works its inevitable to explain the past customs and politics to make it understandable anyway. A valuable lesson in life is imo, to realize you´re not always right. my personal opinion on topics changed over the decades. Not radically but significantly in some points. every one of us probably had these moments in life when you look back at your old self and think "oh, was i a fool". its important to understand the back and forths of how societies evolve aswell, especially bigotry. im open to making slight changes in childrens books and stories though, they may not be neccessary at all, since the critical age might be one where an adult reads it and can explain certain things. similar to the appendix or notes in a hamlet schoolbook. |
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Could God make a Bugs Bunny cartoon so Racist that even He couldn't cancel it?? |
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there is evidence that God exists, you just have to understand it. 1. the old testament. but you have to read it and understand it. it's about a people's relationship with God in a world where most don't understand that God is there watching everything and everyone all the time for all time. 2. look up the promises made by God to Abraham, are they coming true or not? they seem to be coming true. your descendents will be as numerous as the stars etc. then the holy land between the two main rivers in the middle east being given to Abraham's descendents (see Iraq war, Syria war, etc). 3. look at a map of the middle east and compare it to a map of the middle east from 100 years ago. what are the main differences? werent these differences mentioned in the old testament thousands of years ago, proof that the prophecies are coming true. 4. read about Timna, Amalek, and the Amalikites. That such a man as Putin exists with his coming coalition of war and death in the name of power and self-aggrandizement demonstrates that Amalek is real. the antithesis of Amalek is Messiah. 5. Old Testament ethics and legal system having a massive influence on modern culture, practically showing that we live in messianic times. but you actually have to read the book to understand. 6. conceptions of gender and transgender and gender queer comes from the kabbalah. it's not made up,it has been revealed by God. so there is evidence where people say there is none. also the messiah is telepathic, he can read everyone's mind, thats how he can tell which tribe each praiser of YHWH is from. it's not magic like in a book, he is the descendent of David and Solomon. God shows him things about people and allows him to read people's lives, in order to apply divine justice to the world. in other ways the messiah is a humble man, though has deadly military skills and strategies up his sleeve to smash Putin with. xltronic believes God doesn't exist, the Messiah isn't alive today, that i'm ill with schizophrenia, but none of th |
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