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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-07 15:57 [#02624959] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | How is Rick Beato still getting away with this?, by Patricia Taxxon 
 with a plug for autechre
 
 
 
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         |  marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2023-02-07 17:24 [#02624961] Points: 24636 Status: Lurker
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 | When I discovered his channel I enjoyed a couple of his videos until he spoke about music theory incorrectly, one of
 my bugbears on music channels, and was forced to
 unsubscribe. I'll check out this video, thanks
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-07 17:35 [#02624963] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | i guess i'll keep watching him, every now and again. though i don't really know why.
 
 all music talk channels are a bit useless. hard not to enjoy
 Fantano, though
 
 this video is just an overview of stuff we probably already
 know, but it was fun (and short, only under 4 minutes)
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-07 17:37 [#02624964] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | food tube is just better 
 like, check this sommelier pairing wines with fast food, that i discovered yesterday
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-07 17:42 [#02624965] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | also, lastly for now, Little Joel is the current king 
 
 
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         |  marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2023-02-07 17:44 [#02624966] Points: 24636 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02624965
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 | I sub to Big Joel, had no idea there was a Little Joel channel too :0
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-07 18:18 [#02624967] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Followup to marlowe: #02624966 | Show recordbag
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 | since a few months! 
 he uses it now instead of Twitter
 
 
 
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         |  Tony Danza
             from the river to the sea on 2023-02-09 02:22 [#02625019] Points: 3803 Status: Lurker
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 | what happened to breadtube did it died 
 
 
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         |  Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-02-09 02:52 [#02625020] Points: 5097 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02624964
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 | re: food tube 
 There's this guy, Chris Morocco (link to playlist) that
 we've been watching on youtube. He blindfolds himself and
 tastes a dish, then recreates it from scratch. Fun to watch
 while eating dinner.
 
 
 
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         |  Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-02-09 03:07 [#02625022] Points: 5097 Status: Lurker
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 | you dont have to click that though because I definitely didn't click anything about this Rick Beta guy.
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-09 09:04 [#02625030] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Followup to Tony Danza: #02625019 | Show recordbag
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 | the bickering about it will never stop, anyway 
 big joel is breadtube. shaun still exists, as well, but he's
 also streaming pubg
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-09 09:06 [#02625031] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Followup to Wolfslice: #02625020 | Show recordbag
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 | i haven't been able to go back to the test kitchen after they got canceled. i miss Claire's gourmet recreations. this
 chris dude was great as well, i'll watch it some time
 
 
 
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         |  Tony Danza
             from the river to the sea on 2023-02-09 12:28 [#02625034] Points: 3803 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02625030
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 | Oh Shaun still exists. It's dying because Trump went away I think. A three hour Why Squidward Is Problematic video
 doesn't feel like The Resistance any more. It feels
 downright ungrateful, after Biden fixed all the problems.
 
 
 
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         |  RussellDust
             on 2023-02-10 01:01 [#02625042] Points: 16155 Status: Lurker
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 | What a horrible video. Who is Rick Beato?
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-10 02:45 [#02625047] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Followup to Tony Danza: #02625034 | Show recordbag
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 | yeah 
 all these 'anarchists' still hate shaun because he suggested
 -in a tweet and according to them- Biden ain't great either
 and you could also not vote for either of them
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-10 02:47 [#02625048] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Followup to RussellDust: #02625042 | Show recordbag
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 | i guess you should watch the original video (i'm on mobile and don't want to watch it up atm)
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-10 03:44 [#02625049] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | Mr Beast is breadtune !!?? 
 
 
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         |  ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2023-02-10 07:58 [#02625050] Points: 8089 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | auto tune singers to pitch perfect correction as a norm: is a pest imo. didnt like hardly any millennial singers
 voice or art, excepteions made like amy whinehouse, dont
 know if she autotuned, but her voice had personality. so
 when some video complained how companies look for perfection
 rather than ingenuity and used autotune to suck the soul and
 personality out of singers voices i fully agreed. old vs new
 comparison was shocking and terrible and that in particular
 still stands imo.
 
 artistic use of autotune in distorting voices, well it
 sounds like sh to me in most cases. the way they usually do,
 like going into a kaleidoscope of note scrambling. just
 doesnt appeal to me. not my style. just sounds wrong to me
 most of the time. but thats artistic freedom. or is it?
 
 i dont mind some guy giving his opinion on how music
 production changes the sound. nor his warning we ought to be
 careful what genie we put out of the bottle. i didnt see a
 huge contradiction as taxxon pointed out. maybe they were
 talking about different things.
 
 anyhow this an old hat:
 when i learned how overdubs and production enhanced one of
 my all time favourite songs by a very skilled guitar player
 (hendrix´s version of all along the watchtower) and
 electric ladyland in general, i was a bit puzzled, but i
 think the production fit his experimental style. i mean the
 albums sound clearly sounds like a collage and there is tape
 speed varioations noticable all around the album, but i was
 particularly puzzled about one sequence i forgot which was
 altered.
 
 if it works it works,
 just doesnt work for me in a great number of examples
 i am not forced to hear it.
 
 
 
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         |  ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2023-02-10 08:05 [#02625051] Points: 8089 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | i mean, music is not world domination. its okay if you dont like it.
 its okay if you try to point out why.
 its okay to have an opinion.
 its okay to react to someones opinion.
 its called music theory, not music facts.
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-10 10:35 [#02625052] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Followup to ijonspeches: #02625050 | Show recordbag
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 | i agree 
 still the 'T-Pain can actually sing!' take is pretty
 antiquated
 
 your talking about Hendrikx (whom i should check out) made
 me think of Bitches Brew, that i listened to the other day.
 that also is many takes stitched together, i read on
 wikipedia. or it's just a form of composing, really. the
 question i guess is whether someone like Beato is
 discriminating against genres like RnB.
 
 somewhere else i read that Beato rails against perfection in
 music production. and he does that too and i agree
 with him
 
 this is the Beato video
 
 
 
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         |  Tony Danza
             from the river to the sea on 2023-02-10 12:25 [#02625058] Points: 3803 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02625047
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 | Haha! Common anarchist L. 
 Most self styled A's, aside from clothes and protesting, are
 center-right libs with neocon foreign policy.
 
 
 
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         |  ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2023-02-10 12:49 [#02625061] Points: 8089 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | he bought me with that video, except t-pains singing. from both excerpts id prefer to hear none of his singing
 either way ^^
 
 the video i saw was a different one. it was using graphic
 progams putting on display the heavy use of autotune and how
 to spot it, comparing todays singers auto corrected notes
 with those of freddy mercury and the likes. i thought this
 was a great vid, dont remember who did it.
 
 if beato was a terrible fuckup of a person, it won´t change
 what he says about ai and the mis-usage of technology in
 production.
 the way he talks reminds me a bit of that guy from the
 walking dead with his bat.
 
 anyway i do think its creepy that in the future or maybe
 already we reached a point where you dont even need an
 artist to make music.
 music is a powerful vehicle and the possibilities for
 regimes etc. could be endless.
 
 i also can see how that discussion about recent music
 offends their listeners, who grew up with it, just as i can
 see how good "tools of the trade" musicians and producers
 feel threatened by "ruining listeners ears".
 its a cultural/stylistic war.
 
 what do you think beato would say about come to daddy?
 its a different kind of animal :)
 
 
 
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         |  hevquip
             from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2023-02-12 05:18 [#02625107] Points: 3412 Status: Lurker
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 | i dislike most music youtubers immensely because they're youtubers first, musicians second, if at all i.e. if they
 were actually musicians, their music would speak for itself
 and they wouldn't need to predominantly resort to youtube
 for a fanbase. they don't upload their music, they upload
 watchable content and some music occasionally. it should
 feel dirty to listen to one of their albums and consider
 yourself a fan.
 
 "oh you're listening to that youtuber's album?"
 
 
 
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         |  ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2023-02-12 09:28 [#02625111] Points: 8089 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | its not really chic to piss on somebody elses waggon, while selling a product of your own. on the other hand i think he
 has a valid selling point, saying his stuff differs.
 
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-12 10:51 [#02625113] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Followup to hevquip: #02625107 | Show recordbag
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 | you might have noticed there's, like, 100 times less money to be made by musicians, these days (more so for more
 thoughtful music)
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-12 10:53 [#02625114] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | another one Benn Jordan's wrong (respectfully) 
 
 
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         |  ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2023-02-16 21:26 [#02625327] Points: 8089 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
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 | What do you think of this guys review on ageispolis? LAZY_TITLE
 
 He talks a bit about dos and donts and while it appears a
 bit unspecified saying you need both to make a great track i
 like how he uses this particular track as an example. Dont
 think afx deliberately broke any rules, not sure the author
 does, but i like the point he makes towards the end. That ai
 probably has a hard time putting soul in a tracklije thus
 just by following musical theory.
 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2023-02-17 07:49 [#02625336] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Followup to ijonspeches: #02625327 | Show recordbag
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 | i watched the intro but don't really want to get rules explained about how to break rules. don't want to ruin the
 magic
 
 the ai taking music over thing is a bit silly, is what
 Patricia Taxxon argues, which i have to agree with
 
 
 
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         |  ijonspeches
             from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2023-02-17 15:07 [#02625338] Points: 8089 Status: Regular | Followup to big: #02625336 | Show recordbag
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 | yeah, staying on the right side of the curtain helps sustain its
 magic.
 
 ai, its probably just a matter of time,
 scary as it may be i dont think we´re there yet either.
 
 
 
 
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