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So, this balloon thing. The news has gotten this far: "The size of three buses," "It's meant to be seen," "Things from above inspire a sense of helpless, like everything is being watched, drones," "...inspiring paranoia because people will think every speck could be Chinese" They even got to to this part, quoting bad boy wiki p: Six U.S. civilians were killed in Oregon in May 1945 by Japanese balloon bombs.[584] ...what all have them missed so far is that, effectively, these were the only civilian causalities the US suffered on its own soil for the entirety of world war 2. there are civilian casualties at military bases -- pearl harbor, obviously -- merchant marines turned POW, etc. but everyone back in mainland america is baking pies. again, quoting bbWp: On May 5, 1945, six civilians were killed near Bly, Oregon, when they discovered one of the balloon bombs in Fremont National Forest, becoming the only fatalities from enemy action in the continental U.S. during the war. china: civilian deaths into eight figures usa: six hikers scouting a spot for a picnic it is very... eyebrow raised, like, what? but perhaps that's the idea. just bullshit psychological tactics. reverse end, there are quiet mentions that, effectively "this is not the first time this has happened" and perhaps it's just a politically opportune time to make a stink about it, for precisely the reasons i described above. china cancelled inna blinkin |
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We die tonight! |
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But also As U.S. officials were quick to note on Thursday, the balloon is unlikely to have gathered any novel intelligence that China couldn’t already have accessed by other means. --Dave Barry's anagram for the name of this newspaper was, "Sh! Pawns Tooting" ...what about, you know... cell signals? just anything not in a faraday cage, now that you're not outside of the atmosphere? it's too far up for wifi [probably] but cell towers, GPS, air traffic control, whatever, good luck getting that through a satellite wtf. |
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maybe this is why the us gov was all, "let's talk about UFOs," suddenly, bizarrely. that they wanted to call it out but it had to be declassified or such |
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i hope not! |
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that a ballon can keep a much more steady eye than a satellite, on a nuclear silo, too. but then that strange gps blackout over some Texas airport recently and perhaps that's in a good zone to mess with our shit in such a manner. but then why make it so visible? so no, more likely passive as they say. |
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Some nice looking Chinese lady came on the news saying blah blah blah blah it was a weather balloon that got away and our United States gooberment was like Naw |
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Why don't they take it down? |
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They the Chinese or They the us, the USA? I think If I took it down it would be ignored or talked about on Fox or WWIII Dunno Vote! |
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> Why don't they take it down? that it is the size of "three buses" and it's six or eight miles above ground if you explode something that large, that far up, well, they use the term 'debris field,' meaning, the probable zone flaming bits of it will crash down somewhere. and aside from general respect for human safety in general, can you imagine the reaction if some of it crashed down on some twat's house and killed them? fire within, at both the US gov and the chinese. no good ...and they just did shoot it down, once it was over the ocean. the cynical layer: leave it flying and active for a few days to, er, balloon the issue politically. spend a while doing repeated flybys and ground surveillance to study the contraption. what surprises me is that they don't simply try and capture it alive, so to speak, to reverse-engineer its purpose and leverage this for both intel and politics. but i suppose "blow it up" is a very god bless the usa attitude |
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China says it ‘reserves the right’ to deal with ‘similar situations’ after US jets shoot down suspected spy balloon pricks are worse than the GOP |
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there was a "safe, mutually paranoid skies" treaty that actually allowed, like... russia to fly planes over USA, and USA to fly planes over russia. explicitly for surveillance. because it actually defuses the tensions to let everyone watch each other. trump canceled this pact. however, china never signed it in the first place. instead, they've been building artificial islands out of human stool and announcing their borders have expanded, and now... after having sent a dumb-ass spy balloon over america's nuclear silos etc. and admits its their balloon (even if they deny the purpose) and apologies greatly... and the US shoots it down over the ocean and... now it's: you'll pay? utterly pathetic. the pretext only exists in their heads |
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it does raise some interesting picklers, despite being horseshit distilled to fentanyl levels |
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“The US used force to attack our civilian unmanned airship, which is an obvious overreaction. We express solemn protest against this move by the US side,” China’s Defense Ministry spokesperson Tan Kefei said in a statement on Sunday afternoon local time. You violated US sovereign airspace China “reserves the right to use necessary means to deal with similar situations,” he added. my inner child says biden should send a fleet of 64k shitty, unarmed drones that just fly in formation making an image of dogè six miles up and a mile wide over china until they shoot it down (US response: "but we love you! we sent this because we love you! why are you doing this? don't you love us? did you forget that special moment at the summit, pooh bear?") China’s Foreign Ministry had earlier on Sunday accused the US of “overreacting” and “seriously violating international practice,” after US military fighter jets on Saturday shot down the balloon over the Atlantic Ocean in a mission President Joe Biden hailed as a success. You violated US sovereign airspace ...but then they're going to claim their poop islands are their sovereign airspace shortly, and attempt to cause an incident in order to give the further poop island justification to "retaliate" and invade taiwan. it's interesting how the tactics of little children become useless for a large stretch in the middle of life, and then again become effective at the scale of [inter]national politics. this is a human problem, that the US suffers from just as much as china |
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lol |
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[while i have you here -- some of china's investments have been going poorly, it would seem! like, one country was like, "yes, we'd like a hydro plant, a national railway system, and two sports arenas please" and then once the plan hit the ground a bunch of the money disappeared somewhere into the depths. now, i gather, china is all "PAYMENT DUE" and the country responded "mmm no." something something holding up negotiations; time for yellen to step in to be the adult in the room! lol] |
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NYT finally getting about to some bits i've been saying. they're clearly following my zilty posts for their analysis balloons equipped with high-tech sensors hover over a site far longer and can pick up radio, cellular and other transmissions that cannot be detected from space. ...and i give them credit for being more succinct than me, at least ~ but it concludes with this fascinating tidbit: “It makes you wonder who was talking to whom in China,” Ms. Zegart said. “This is clearly the greatest unforced error the Chinese have made in some time.” the thing was so obvious. i was saying, "it was clearly meant to be seen, there's no doubt" and parsing it from that perspective. but china is incredibly huge, to the point where a small concentrated dictatorship has trouble being nimble. or perhaps coordinating with its own intelligence apparati. that maybe this balloon thing is some small unit that's been diligently humming along on its mandate for three years and X.J. was all "craaaap i forgot that existed" after the US went apoplectic about it over their airspace i could believe that. the irony is, i suspect their future actions will be pretty much the same. shooting down some US spy plane over their imaginary islands and saying "well you popped our balloon" and i go back to what i said about the tactics of little children. |
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i really cannot even fathom why X.J. wants the job, to be frank. just think of it: "You run China" if we apply this to me and how i am, in my charming but irrelevant way... this would be sort of like a Cool Band Name i wrote on a post-it note one day three years ago caused an international incident via the entire unit formed around it. a Cool Band Name i wrote on a post-it note one day a bit silly, but one can see how... once someone reminds you, it comes back. but, trying to weave things together... and who wants that job. |
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i guess something something the scene from mr. robot, "why do you do it?" etc etc |
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this post will be ramble city, probably that my brain has been pinging back to x-files 6x15, Arcadia. then i got to thinking, again, how the timothy leary looking [spoiler alert] psycho suburbia dictator oligarch in this episode is remarkably like the [spoiler alert for demolition man] the timothy leary looking psycho suburbia dictator oligarch. considered it many times before, but this time: ohhh, the x-files episode [spoiler. SPOILER] ends with the übermensch killing its creator; ending the madness. and that is remarkably like how [ oILER] Dr. Raymond Cocteau goes out easy to get tangled up in your own decrees with that much power |
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My fave x files episode is pretty disliked. Makes me feel all the more alone. |
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Loved that game boy game Ballon Kid! |
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i prefer Sunglasses Kid |
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200ft tall! |
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I prefer chameleon kid. |
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Or was it kid chameleon? My bad! Loved that game but it was tough as old boots. |
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kid chameleon was wicked! only beat it twice i think. windy city was my fave level |
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I’ve never managed to complete it. That’s it, getting the mega drive mini out! Challenge accepted! |
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Nice! OG German one is my fave version. |
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yeah its great, only posted the english for lyrics, obviously. song from our childhood i guess. of course i didnt know it was about the cold war back then, but it paved the way alongside many other things. |
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