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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-26 13:08 [#02624640]
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Really?
Yes or no.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-26 13:16 [#02624642]
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He talks to me in my dreams sometimes and I saw his face.
He only shows his face to those he's gonna obliterate.
He said about king Solomon and also said all my first cousins will be tortured.
Most people go to heaven or the world to come after they die, but some people are raised to shame and everlasting contempt.
Dreams are God's way of sending us messages. Joseph and Daniel were good at interpreting dreams.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-26 13:20 [#02624643]
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I'm not really ill. The Messiah is psychic somehow,must be God. I thought it might be technology like neuralink but how can they show images in my dreams?
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RussellDust
on 2023-01-26 15:32 [#02624645]
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What I don’t particularly follow and make peace with is all the torture you speak off. Your version of God differs from mine.
Where’s the love, compassion and empathy? No it’s all torture and inflicted suffering. Your God seems very vengeful. It makes me sad.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2023-01-26 16:37 [#02624646]
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your god is real douchebag
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mermaidman
on 2023-01-26 16:50 [#02624649]
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you are a douchebag
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2023-01-26 17:34 [#02624650]
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Douchebags are real for sure.
Define God
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2023-01-26 17:37 [#02624651]
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If I was it would still be a fuck-ton better than having to be you
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-01-26 19:09 [#02624652]
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Clad in his saintly armor of virtue, and wielding his talking sword "Infantus," Marlowe once again descended to the heavens above.
This time, the place was the Brown Barrens, a region of the Mud Flats, where the Mermaid Men were known to incubate their foul eggs.
Infantus: We've found one, A Mermaid Man. Low-end accoutrements and supplies.
Marlowe: Is it a woman, transgender, or disabled?
Infantus: No, sir.
Marlowe: Is it a muslim, non-binary, or has it expressed anti-capitalist views in the last 4-6 weeks?
Infantfus: No, sir
Marlowe: Is it at least wearing a solidarity with Ukraine or Black Lives Matter pin?
Infantus: Not at the moment, sir.
Marlowe: Then in the name of PROGRESS, and with the spirit of AN IDENTITARIAN MARXIST BASED HEIRCHY OF WORTH, I sentence you to cross the great divide.
With a blinding flash of light Marlowe lifted his angelic sword. "FOR JUSTICE!"
and the beast...
The mermaidman....
was
no more
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-26 19:12 [#02624653]
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everyone gets free will
" Tank : Here you go, buddy; "Breakfast of Champions." Mouse : If you close your eyes, it almost feels like you're eating runny eggs.
Apoc : Yeah, or a bowl of snot. Mouse : Do you know what it really reminds me of? Tasty Wheat. Did you ever eat Tasty Wheat?
Switch : No, but technically, neither did you. Mouse : That's exactly my point. Exactly. Because you have to wonder: how do the machines know what Tasty Wheat tasted like? Maybe they got it wrong. Maybe what I think Tasty Wheat tasted like actually tasted like oatmeal, or tuna fish. That makes you wonder about a lot of things. You take chicken, for example: maybe they couldn't figure out what to make chicken taste like, which is why chicken tastes like everything.
Apoc : Shut up, Mouse."
who made chicken taste like chicken in the real world? God of course
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-26 19:13 [#02624654]
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lol
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-01-26 19:14 [#02624655]
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FROM the heavens above fuck me.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-26 19:24 [#02624656]
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBiblical/comments/22r2w9/d oes_david_torture_captured_enemies_and_civilians/
Did King David in the bible torture the enemies of Israel? why yes he did, so it's not really surprising that his many times great grandson, the messiah of end times does torture too. The lesson is to never support palestinians, to never do anti semitic words or deeds, to never be hateful at all. something like that. there are consequences
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-01-26 20:07 [#02624658]
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Fuck. You.
[slaps someone at random]
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-01-26 20:24 [#02624659]
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slap hits King Solomon. How do you proceed?
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2023-01-26 21:53 [#02624660]
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roll saving throw!
[rolls a 1, turns into pillar of salt]
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-27 09:06 [#02624661]
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if you read the old testament, will you go 'crazy' too?
take the old testament challenge today!
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mermaidman
on 2023-01-27 09:23 [#02624662]
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bro i eat douchebags for breakfast bro
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mermaidman
on 2023-01-27 09:26 [#02624663]
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then i fart them out ok??
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RussellDust
on 2023-01-27 09:59 [#02624664]
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You can’t disregard the New Testament, can you? Sermon on the mount, turning the other cheek. A necessary step from the Old Testament.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-27 10:05 [#02624666]
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Jesus taught a lot of good things, but ultimately wasn't the genuine Messiah. He caused a lot of anti semitism in the world, passion plays, "synagogue of satan", so Jesus was responsible for a lot of evil in the world. Ironically Jesus was tortured by the Pharisees and Romans. I guess he's in heaven now apologising for all the trouble he caused.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-27 10:17 [#02624667]
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Adolf Hitler tried to kill the real Messiah's mother when she was just a child. Everyone knows Hitler's in hell now. Hell is where the Messiah tortures the enemies of progress. 6 million murdered in death camps and gas chambers by Adolf Hitler. Probably 99.9% of those 6 million were descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. God made promises to Abraham thousands of years ago. So take the old testament challenge today, compare it with present day reality, then realise for yourself that God is real.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-27 10:51 [#02624668]
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The Messiah loves peace, love, and justice but is prepared for war at all times. He’s a heaven born Captain. His parents survived the Holocaust and moved to London where he was raised in a loving family. He was born from the tribe of Judah on his father’s side and is descended from King David and King Solomon, the greatest kings Israel ever knew. so far. He follows every Jewish law and every British law. He’s high up as an advisor to the UK government, and every political party worth its stripes listens to him. He joined the Tory party as an entryist, probably to destroy it from within or at least make sure he could help govern, like Joseph or a Daniel from the bible. He’s the one fighting Putin with all his strength and knowledge in what appears to be the beginnings of a third world war.
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mermaidman
on 2023-01-27 11:15 [#02624669]
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who is the messiah again?
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mermaidman
on 2023-01-27 11:16 [#02624670]
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if there is a messiah why doesn’t he punish marlowe for being a douchebag??
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mermaidman
on 2023-01-27 11:17 [#02624671]
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i just proved he isn’t real
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Portnoy
on 2023-01-27 14:33 [#02624675]
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Existence is completely paradoxical. How can something exist from nothing? If God created everything, what created God? Take the idea of God out of the equation, what created existence, the multiple universes? Matter?!?! What? It makes no sense. We’re not supposed to exist as far as I can deduct.
The modern idea of God(s) is quite simply a product of culture.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-27 15:04 [#02624676]
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I guess the purpose of the afterlife is for everyone to know God on a personal level, and whatever questions you have for him he will be able to answer himself or through the Torah scholars.
The world to come is this world, only the dead will be revived.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-27 15:05 [#02624677]
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Brian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iktKXIsRUIg
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-27 15:22 [#02624680]
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question is, what do you do when you realise that God exists and is fully real and created the world? convert to judaism? then you have to follow hundreds of different laws and dietary requirements and are held to a higher standard than other people. islam? same thing. christianity? then youre following the teachings of jesus or mohamed who made up stuff along the way out of ignorance. i think it's absolutely delightful that there's a proven creator of the universe. it means that there's an afterlife, it means that there's a plan, it means that good wil triumph over evil, it means that putin will lose, it means that the future will be bright, space travel will be possible, knowledge of God will be possible, friendship with alien civilisations will be possible
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-01-27 17:56 [#02624682]
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"proven creator?" Man, this is entirely a faith based operation.
You keep mentioning "crazy" but I don't think it's crazy to have a faith. Your dreams are not crazy either. The only thing that seems off, to me, is the frequency to which you're dwelling on all this stuff (which seems like, more than an actual priest lol).
If you're getting these repetitive cognitive loops long term, you'll eventually need a bit of help. Someone will work with you to reduce them to a reasonable level. Your faith won't be impacted. They'll probably correct a small chemical imbalance leading to these repetitive thought loops. The drug might make it hard to get your dick up.
The alternative, if this were to progress for a few years, could be you cutting ties with most of the people, ideas, things you still care about and you spend your days calling local restaurants raving about the messiah. You should just nip it in the bug now while you still can.
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RussellDust
on 2023-01-27 18:38 [#02624683]
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Iirc Umbro is following treatment.
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Portnoy
on 2023-01-27 19:37 [#02624684]
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today i messaged an old friend i hadnt messaged in a while, he plays classical guitar and he was saying how good is subjective and then we both landed somewhere about activities (like playing guitar) are objectively difficult to do, or easy to do. He's incredibly good but downplays himself. Eventually the discussion lead to existence and i kind of reiterated the tired idea I had put forward here earlier. He made a good analogy whichI will post here
"do you think an ant can conceive of a nuclear reactor even after thinking really long and hard"
I think this sums up the limits of the human condition and our ability to understand what God or existence is.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-27 20:27 [#02624685]
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Everyone has different beliefs, respect due to you all who believe different things
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-01-27 22:31 [#02624686]
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I have a hard time mustering up any respect for scientologists.
L. Ron. Hubbard even said something along the lines of "if you want to make money, start a religion."
How stupid do you have to be, to be a scientologist?
I also have a hard time respecting people with face tattoos. You really, really fucked up if you got a face tattoo.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2023-01-27 23:20 [#02624687]
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Aphex logo face tattoos, I've seen before
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2023-01-27 23:25 [#02624688]
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RDJ's music is very important to me, I genuinely love it
but I'd probably rather lose an arm than get an afx tat on my dang face, no joke.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-01-28 03:37 [#02624690]
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god is veal tastes like...
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-01-28 03:38 [#02624691]
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what does god smell like? no one ever asks
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-01-28 03:38 [#02624692]
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i know what robert crumb's response would be: "...like an angry patriarch"
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-01-28 08:50 [#02624699]
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that really... we've done this thread before? and i don't mind doing it again; i just have some flip material to get out of the way first. built up a buffer in between
that not only do we share 99.n% of DNA, human culture is all the same ball of yarn. that people synchronize with each other both through paradigms that are likely, ostensibly, arguably synthetic synthetic -- such as horoscope -- and it works simply because there's such a massive amount of humanity's energy/computation going into it; making it real.
no? not yet? ok
that there is at least some core to the traditional zodiac, but if it were so freaking literal... as a fellow leo, why am i not RDJ?
no, this is about, like "take some medieval person really trying their darndest to construct a theory of everything" and then "out of a million theories this one took hold" and then "the leos are synchronized with the virgos and the planets" and "to think the cosmos don't influence us at least a little is silly, the full moon has such a rep because IT'S BRIGHT OUT and more predators out so prey gets antsy and on we go overanaylzing it"
so you have tens of millions of people reading their horoscope in the paper and genuinely putting faith into it. via tens of millions of people collectively putting genuine life decisions into what their horoscope says, and that horoscopes are all synchronized with each other, you create a mechanism where if you have enough of a critical mass of believing souls, horoscopes can effectively work, even if they actually have nothing to do with the cosmos. but i still think it's naive to assume we aren't gradually shaped by those motions
anyways: you should watch serial experiments lain. a god cannot exist without believers
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-01-28 09:09 [#02624700]
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i'll try it from another angle. after david bowie died, lots of arguing about "what would have have done next" and this includes people that knew him well, talking with random people, who argue on the internet, and multiple people who feel in the mood to be conduits make what they feel would have been david bowie's next album and none of them will be quite the thing, but... some will be pretty close, and... put together, stochastically, the next david bowie album is there. as sort of a point cloud. everyone cares so much about the next david bowe album that we've granted him a limited god status, for the sake of satisfying our obsession with what he would have done next. that this is how you become a god: pull a jesus and have millions of people simulating you and your mind forever, and, fuck, i do wonder if that could achieve a consciousness of sorts. that'd be wild. this is what "immanentize the eschaton" or whatever was groping for but couldn't quite grasp
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-01-28 09:18 [#02624701]
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that it's kind of a funny answer: that i really believe god "works" because so many people collectively believe and check in with him, and with each other on how they're doing with him (and/or her).
but my previous post: it actually makes a case for, "god is real, but we actually created him, and he has some competitors"
and i'm not actually on board with that but it's not obviously crap and i'll keep prodding it.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-01-28 09:23 [#02624702]
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end sum, i suppose -- if God exists, he's a point-cloud stand alone complex; which doesn't actually rule out consciousness, even though that is extreme
but i'm still interested in what god tells you, because i view that as valid information off the grapevine, as it were
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-01-28 09:49 [#02624704]
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throughout history, anytime you have some leap from... native villages... to, like, something that resembles a city... aztecs, egyption pyramids, sumerians, you never get something like that without religion. that my rough theory, i suppose, is it's like a database. that animals will pass skills on to their offspring in nature in a rudimentary way, but you need both a) the bandwidth of human-level language, and b) something Deadly Fucking Serious, a theory of everything [!!WITH THREATS!!] that ensures people maintain the integrity of the database and pass it on with only incremental adjustments. from there you get a stable core of information to load into all the monkey skulls and you start to shift from a hamlet to a village to a city to an empire and then your gods are all level'd up and ready to go out and spread -- by force if necessary. because if you didn't all take it this seriously it'd peter out in a generation or three
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-01-28 09:50 [#02624705]
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by that logic, a church is a sort of data processing center.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2023-01-28 09:54 [#02624706]
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oh, yes, i have it: perhaps god is real, but only because millions of people spend time collectively simulating him into existence every day, discussing what god said with each other, theorizing about how to simulate god in more detail, etc. and in this sense god is real, but like ChatGPT 50 years in the future. competing with other AIs. not the boss, but still a player. all our artificial creations; databases we needed to bootstrap civilization run amok. or, well, some of them anyways
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-01-28 20:50 [#02624707]
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big up to everyone in ths thread
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-01-28 20:53 [#02624708]
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reverse kegels for the mind
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-01-28 20:58 [#02624709]
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" by force if necessary. because if you didn't all take it this seriously it'd peter out in a generation or three"
riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of short to bend of bay, brings us by a commodious vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs
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