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. (or, well, the part where i reply to my own posts for a while and then wander off to record music) |
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epic can you imagine what sean would do if you joined the chat |
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it's alright *and* could probably use some basic mixing. |
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If future Ae recordings are a bit self conscious it's my fault. Sorry |
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i demand a hug, from both of you |
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what about me?! |
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you may hug me |
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I like it, especially the fuzzy, demented cymbals driving the percussion, albiet from the background. I concur with big, there's a slight mixing issue, apparent at 0:50 in track 1. That synth is just a bit too phat, too loud there. But it's cool. You've already said your piece on why it's difficult for you to edit your jams in post, but I swear to god your tracks would go to the next level if you found a way, I'm 100% sure of this. on this one I'm working on for the past few days? |
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aciiieeed |
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ohhh |
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yeah. there's a lot going on in the bass that i can hear on cans but gets lost on earbuds. honestly, i think it's me fucking around with it after the fact, didn't get the EQ + multiband comp correct. that i can fix. in fact i'm pretty sure i just didn't get that right; i'm trying to do stuff i don't understand. so i might go back and undo some of it |
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multiband comp is for watmm boys |
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ask mohamed aka ill mom |
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...no comments on the cover art? i whispered some words into an AI's ear, and... it looks like sean booth and rob brown merged into one person, with a dash of the guy from portishead? with a pie being thrown through one ear and out the other? i've no idea where it got that -- the query was something like "autechre / balrog" every subsequent attempt essentially failed. renders the text instead of generating an image; if you mess with that stuff, you've seen it. which is curious given, how thoroughly it nailed it the first time -- oh well, perhaps their AWS budget was thin... then, since they want money for resolution, i used a separate AI service to upscale the image to the resolution bandcramp requires. i may go back and annotate it a bit. but this has proved a reliable process for album covers. garfield at a warehouse rave, please |
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the pie exiting the ear looks like... a) certain stripes of abstract art b) stuff you see on acid c) something these AI image things seem to do... quite a bit... |
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album covers, AI, further comment ~ yes, oh, this works: it's elon musk, half borg face, smoking a mushroom pipe, but it's just his head, in a space helmet, blasting off. the first image it gave me was good enough that i figured i had it, but i've learned to always try again, and the second one just killed it. i need to sort out doing this on desktop rather than relying on crackpot websites. |
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~ art deco, perfect. |
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note or two for wolfslice: intro: if you're going to do a BOC, you can't just leave your tape motor farting on an lfo, you should just do that by hand. also, your beats should crunch. these don't crunch. mostly, though, i want some human hands on that, rather than a fixed LFO. and you need more crunch if you want to B OC. if you want to be plaid it needs to be thinner and more wispy but no, by the time it's past that, 30 or 40 seconds in, just banging on some textures and drums, this is nice |
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The art on this one is neat, though the amalgum doesn't actually look like sean mixed with rob. It looks like a fucked up Van Gough. I said some of these you've been using were coming off like a bad AI approximation of "fear and loathing style" but I guess what I meant was very speficially this guy Ralph Steadmen (, ) That elon one is a good example in that sorta style, tho it is cool. Each case is specific but overall I'm getting tired of AI art already. I soured on it pretty much overnight. It's way cool for like fractals, but it does lack an intangible essence that I find hard to describe. |
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And thanks for the listen, I appreciate the qualtiy of your ear. BoC or Plaid honestly didn't occur to me as inspiration (and tbh BoC is probably always there a bit), but Tipper and Proem often do. I guess the one constant in my tunes is that I simply like cleaner, hip hoppy drums right at the forefront, driving the whole thing-- when I hear it done well in other music, my ears perk right the fuck up. No excuses for that, but it very possibly could sound basic as fuck at my skill level. I'll mess around with crunching them up a bit to see how it plays. This note tho, I'm having trouble parsing: "you can't just leave your tape motor farting on an lfo, you should just do that by hand." I've got drawn in lines for resonators, reverb, and what amounts to a VERY mild tape hiss. Also some FM8 morphy knobs done by hand . There ARE some LFOs doing a bit with the freq filters with this layer ( , is that what you meant? It's pretty subtle in the track. but perhaps its the source sample, slightly mangled and played as the lead in (not super attached to this)-- which is just a single bar sampled from the soundtrack for a game called This War of Mine. I was pissed they played that sound so little in the tune, so I decided to make a track out of it. (timestamped to the sound) |
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Either way, back to your tracks in your thread. Track 2 now: Seesaws and dirty crashes. Like when the acid bass really gets going at 0:40. Mechanical freakout starting at 1:30 is the best element of the track, have no clue how you built that. Sorta just sounds like a machinery sample. |
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See now one great use of AI in art would be to just separate all the layers of your track and present them to me as isolated .wavs. (I know the tech for that is kinda here already) If I had that, I'd steal that sweet sweet machine sound and mangle it into some stripped down hip hop. Probably sound straight up autechrey. |
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i didn’t comment on the cover art imho |
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tbh imho |
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yeah it's complicated i was messing around with the mastering a bit then i just recorded another track and added it to the album, maybe it sounds better (it probably does actually) |
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so, like, re: the behringer messinger (ms-101 clone with cloned mods) had a real sh-101 for years. sold it because i needed the money and it was starting to get, like, terrifyingly valuable. for someone who spills coffee on things sometimes all the moves came back to me immediately. like, shifting the rhythm by mashing up the attack/decay a bit and sculpting out the tail with s/r. essentially subconscious motions involving cutoff, res, env. with sculpting envelopes but it's over a year now, and i have a feel for all the mods, the FM stuff in particular. but also how to abuse a level of midi integration i never had. i tended to just stick to the internal sequencer or just basic cv/gate. i used to joke i was one of the top 100 sh-101 players in massachusetts. with the joke being, try even finding 100 people who describe themselves here as such; so i'm assuredly on the right side of the math, here so, 1:30 in that last one, it's like... yes, that just explodes into... bendy and wispy... maybe i'm even to the point where you'd recognize me on an sh-101 over someone else. but every happy with that in any case that, stressing out about work and money, but should i have the means to continue... damn, give me a year, i will just be massacring it with the behringer cloned 303 with cloned mods |
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and it matches the panning, i guess -- ms-1 and 303 with left hand, playing that square wave pad manually whole way on microfreak with right. find some time for the mixer here and there :) |
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i'm deeply off my own topic, but, somewhere on the shulgin scale many years ago, i am having this revelation: that the sh-101 is an Instrument, capital-i. it's more than just a synth than can meld into the network... that i wouldn't go so far as to call it consciousness or anything grand, but it just is very much its own thing. these parts, those controls, that sound. it's all very integrated with itself; what it is. that, getting the ms-1, i was complaining the FM knob... muscle memory still there; bumping into it by accident going for the filter controls. now i find myself wondering if they actually knew what they were doing. the behringer clone w/ clones 303, separate decay controls accented and UNaccented notes, balrog track i just found myself using that to turn the filters inside out to shift the rhythm like on the sh101 -- just thinking, like, oh this will probably work -- and it did. that it's actually not very forgiving with the sweet spots, oh. you have to massively jump the resonance knob behind the scenes without anyone knowing to get the two parts to sound equal and... ...it makes sense, given its reputation. that a 303 is another capital-I instrument, and with this level of midi integration, all the mods, separate decay... yeah, give me a year |
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so i guess the joke is: i play keys, bass guitar, drums, sh101, i'm learning 303, i tried violin but i'm hopeless, maybe i could be good at guitar but i fucking hate it, also sometimes i try to turn a whole salad of equipment into a giant custom instrument and it's always collapsing, but i get a track out of it sometimes. oh i can also play conga drum |
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it's all very integrated with itself; what it is. i would define consciousness as the serpentine belt in a car. delivering power to needed subsystems on demand. but that's a dry, functional definition. if i had to put consciousness into an action-items, "it's very much what it is" would be a good primary what is the 303? lots of argument. but there's no debate the 303 is deeply, utterly, thoroughly the 303. |
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"lots of argument" that i recall reading some usenet thred, and the one that won for me, i think the guy's name was robin, he argued that the 303 sounded like "a rodent in distress" i may have been blinded by all my word alarms going off on this being an epic phrase... but yeah, yeah, the yow yOw YOW YELL YELL scream etc that, as much as it pains me to let go of that phrase, it's really about something something accent 3-pole 12db you're out of your element donnie that yes, the reason this incinerates clothing on the dancefloor is because it lands on frequencies we are genetically primed to react to. like trypophobia. my reaction was: ew, gross! but, kind of like licking a 9-volt, at some point i came back and kept looking at it. mostly just trying to study it. after a few minutes, i literally became physically nauseous and had to stop. there was absolutely nothing psychological about it. that is just fucking programmed in there somewhere; it's firmware |
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too much res |
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guys did kei9 comment on the cover art? i feel like he commented on the cover art |
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IMHO |
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what happened to the tracks epic I wanted to see if I could sample those machinery sounds for my hip hop beat |
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they probably had too much on top anyway. |
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is this an idm hip hop beat like autechre? why you need epic machinery sounds in your hip hop beat |
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IMHO |
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i posted a bunch about soundclot, how i was starting to turn it into a messy file dump, and that's not what it's for; they'll catch me eventually so then i'm talking about a reasonable approach to this, which is come back and do quality control at regular intervals; push it all into an album and make the less interesting tracks bonus tracks. somewhere in between, i was confused by a thread where you were freaking out on me. now it's, "what happened to the track you posted, the noises were good and i want to lift it for my own stuff" and, like i said: read what i wrote |
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