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at least thats what a group of had planned. there have been arrests on this matter earlier. its utterly bizarre. now they arrested 25 people, some were former military. i really wonder if these people are for real and how they could be so far from reality as to think you could overthrow a government by simply blowing up some electric grid, storm a federal building and claim some dorks to be in charge from then on. i mean what are they, twelve? it is so bizarre that it is actually hard to believe. |
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just wait for the messiah to bring the righteous of the germans back to life, including former monarchs! violence is lame anyway |
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:) |
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things were pretty shit for most people under the kaisers anyway |
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Its just a lame excuse to be against anything federal. I bet there is little consent between members apart from anti vaccine and a few scapegoat schemes. |
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are they small government anti federalist libertarian types? or more like the wiki suggests, deeply nationalist authortiarans wanting to reinstate the reich? those would be two deeply incompatible viewpoints |
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my guess is those people are as different as they come. sharing mostly their anger on gov decisions affecting their money. so far i´ve only heard keywords from 2 people and way before the pandemic anti vaccers/ anti quarantine folks. one of which i would guess was partially half anti fed lib type, but definitely not more. he died before all this. the other one has nothing to do with those bullshitters. he just happened to know a few "fun facts" that reichsbürger nowadays use to fetch their cattle. you know like "your id card belongs to the state and not to you" and this kind of stuff. it shows though how unhappy people are susceptible to be drawn into a conversation that ends with scapegoatism. in current days that actually is a dangerous scenario. |
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that is my guess on the herd. as within the more famous examples, the common ground seems to be the neglection of the current state with the former reich that according to them never ended being their loophole to squat a building and form their own little bubble of shitkicking. as if they would have had anything to say when they lived by their past laws. logic is absent here. my guess is that actually is the prerequisite for entry. they check if you´re a complete and utter idiot, so then you will follow any nonsense and are unable to talk normal to the rest of the world. so no ties to anyone but the nutters. |
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Yeah that's probably accurate. Kind of like how the Nigerian Prince wire-me-money emails contain deliberate mispellings to ensure they weed out anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligence, and thus wont waste their time. |
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it's kind of a meme, i guess. like -- this grip of twenty-five (25) fascists are all beer buddies and they get together after work and complain about jewish people at the beer garden, and they've seen the oath keepers on TV, storming the capital, then all the fascist marches in the US. the fascist marches in the US happened because jan 6 planted the idea: "hey guys, haw! it's on" so they get their gear together and get on a bus, start driving to "the government" and... no, turn around and get a bit drunk first... then, yeah! let's attack "the government!" then they all get arrested because their a bunch of half-drunk obvious oafs in camo gear with flab trying to fight its way through bullet-proof vests [that's how it is in the US, anyways] and like twenty people have called the cops by they they get to... yeah, the cops just say, "oh, duh, i know where they're headed" so i don't worry about groups of some 25 random idiots. i worry about people like trump who can unite 25 million of them. because none of them are smart enough to do much other than maybe blow a few things up.... which is still awful, mind you... but, no, it's not like this spontaneous uprising of idiot clusters is going to accomplish anything lasting. let them have their tantrum in the sun. jan 6 people going to jail now, the marchers in the US that imitated them next, hopefully that concept goes viral as well |
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it's same as terrorists, i guess: if they had more than a second-grade education and a burning sense of impotent rage, they wouldn't be terrorists, right? |
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since before phishing was even a term, it's been well-known that the FBI sets up bait operations offering to sell would-be terrorists bomb parts, simply to coax out whoever wanted to build bombs, and arrest them. that they've actually gotten in trouble for entrapment numerous times -- "i wouldn't have built a bomb if the undercover FBI agent hadn't began putting ideas in my head" and i always wondered: did they ever try the opposite hand? like, once they find these people, well, take them aside, and say, like: why, man, why? what went so wrong here that you feel this way? and then redirect them to appropriate counseling. especially when the reason winds up being mental health, rather than impotent rage -- because those are the small handful that are potential ted kaczynskis, instead of... ...instead of people who, well... once they were inside congress on Jan 6, many of them thought it was utterly hilarious to pee on the floor; even take a dump. then a single security guard with balls of steel basically goes matador, toro, toro, and focuses the mob's attention on him while slowly backing away... toro, toro, backing away... as he's leading them up a double flight of stairs... and boom, they've been steered away from the chambers of congress, where, well... if they'd caught nancy pelosi, they'd have done more than pee on her, that's for sure. but they didn't, because they a drunken mob, who, despite having some vague sense of tactics, enough to get in, they've no clue what to do after except poop on the floor. all they accomplished was trampling a couple poor cops to death, and cops are supposed to be their buddies? terrible showing; terrible math |
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in a way its a blessing this group is so far off they wont form a political danger in itself. plus they are more likely to get righties into non voters. id rather have these people dont fuck up their lives and not being derailed though. germany has a known history in messing up undercover, building up neo fascist networks. even ran on the public programme. |
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those are the same thing actually |
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half-drunk obvious oafs in camo gear with flab trying to fight its way through bullet-proof vests [that's how it is in the US, anyways] flab trying to fight its way through bullet-proof vests. i was just thinking, this is definitely one of my better lines. really captures it. but, also, just to be clear that i am absolutely fair to everyone, even fascists -- i suspect the german ones actually go to the gym sometimes |
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Wrong and completely retarded |
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inst libertarism a facade for far right ideologies? at least here it works like that, the harbingers of liberty are the same guys who would enslave you if they could. the only freedom they strive for its the markets, they work for reach people trying to pay less taxes and make more money by any means |
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That's right. "Classical liberalism" had two elements, the economic and the political, that turned out to be incompatible. The freedom for capital to do as it pleases is countered by the political freedom of the people to curtail capital's abuses in its own interest. Though capital loves to wear the trappings of political freedom, it turns out the only freedom it cares about in the end is the freedom to economically enslave the masses through resource monopolization, wage slavery and rent extraction. |
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and communism turned out great |
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and it's just getting started |
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pfft you go and work in china tell me how it works out |
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if shenzhen stopped following communism would they be where they are today? |
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Short answer: Deng's market reforms functioned as a contained engine of economic growth without putting capital in the driver's seat. |
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please be nice this is wolflice's time to get roasted for his idiot politics |
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Yooo I got smoked. It's almost like human tribalism and greed completely corrupts any and all systems, if given enough time? |
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since all socioeconomic systems are equally bad I don't have to learn anything and nothing needs to change. I am very smart |
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more like sheepslice smh |
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More like PONY danza! |
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that's funny because I'M riding YOU, bithc |
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:) keep going, ill make some popcorn. |
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These people are so dumb it hurts, they want to overthrow a goverment that they think doesnt even exists. |
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