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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-26 12:08 [#02622632]
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i don't really know much about bruce springsteen. i do not have a strong opinion about him one way or another. that, really, he's kind of like sting, except i can think of zero songs instead of one.... okay, born to be wild? he's tied with sting now. he'll be watching u
suddenly, however, there are all these fucking articles all over my RSS feed about bruce springsteen and obviously he's about to put out an album or a book or a tour or a white-label buttplug or something.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2022-11-26 12:18 [#02622633]
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haha it's born in the usa
i liked him when i was like 8 or so, that streets of philadelphia song was big around that time, kind of mumbly vibes, i still find myself humming it once in a while. he's supposed to be mr blue collar working class pride right? fair enuf, you do you bruce
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-26 12:23 [#02622634]
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it's coming back to me
this may not make sense to brits, because we're probably all old enough to remember actually reading the funnies, but doubt we had the same ones.
there was a largely decent syndicated comic strip in newspapers as i grew up called "fox trot." it was rarely terrible and occasionally brill. the cartoon family's oldest son, though, he was such a fucking idiot and i loved it when the cartoonist was clearly in the same mood and tortured him with things like taking care of a psychotic neighbor lapdog named, i think, "goldthiwait"
and this idiot character was always going on about bruce swingpeen. "i touched his sweat!"
in college someone said "i touched james brown" and that's mustard. but, never really thot about it... i actually suspect the cartoonist hated ol' bruce in retrospect
me? still no strong opin; just dislike being pumped full of CDs to put on my christmas wish list. obvious timing. it has to be a CD. no way he's touring now. the buttplug is exclusive to NFT owners
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-26 12:34 [#02622635]
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i'm inclined to take an informal poll of how many Bruce Springsteen New CD we all see under the christmas tree this year; just from anyone to anyone. and who
then sell the data to the marketing firm that planned this.
he has a wicked name to slap around, swingpeen, bringsTeen; it takes a spruce to peen a village. normally i'd make some cool band names and step away. that, i dunno, i had heard the name "fiona apple" before but then she's doing the news cycle... and she's a weird one, yes, similar to me, actually. and she's popped out of nowhere after ten years or such. i doubt it's bruce's doing, but i am getting right tired of shit like "let's hold back the bruce album until thanksgiving so we catch the christmas rush" and he's just off in his bubble with sting in a $9.7m townhouse with a $500k automated robot parking spot. that i know sting has this. bruce, are you going to take that? rinse that holiday season
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-26 12:35 [#02622636]
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-26 13:09 [#02622637]
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i actually don't know "born in the usa"
or maybe it's like that crap where whisky can be "pete-y" and, like, i might know what that tastes like? but i don't know which taste to map to the word?
so i might have heard that and i'll be like, "ohhh, yeah, that."
but i think it's more fun to just do nothing and snooze like erwin's cat in a superposition
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2022-11-26 15:09 [#02622638]
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i think there's one called born to run as well. guy makes songs about being born or something dunno
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2022-11-26 18:28 [#02622639]
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Seeing his name makes me think of Republicans smiling and tapping their feet to Born in the USA while diligently not hearing the lyrics.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2022-11-26 20:35 [#02622640]
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The excellent acoustic demo version matches the starkness of the lyrics; also Springsteen is very vocal in his opposition to the right-wing bigotry in America, which is great.
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mermaidman
on 2022-11-26 20:48 [#02622641]
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unnecessary first letter swapping
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mermaidman
on 2022-11-26 20:49 [#02622642]
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phobia will reach you via mail
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mermaidman
on 2022-11-26 20:53 [#02622643]
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we know your zip code
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-27 13:31 [#02622673]
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i havent actively heard his music, yet youtube tried to tell me, that the song born in the usa is not about what i think it is.
i guess hes alright, maybe a little too bossy
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-27 13:33 [#02622674]
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now i was wondernig why does youtube keep assuming to know what i think? apparently it has developed mind reading capabilites by now.
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RussellDust
on 2022-11-28 11:03 [#02622683]
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I liked the song belb mentions. Nice synth background.
I remember that video with Monica Geller climbing up on stage.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-28 19:05 [#02622692]
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i think thats the second thread about him this past year. somethings wrong with the bots programming or input feed.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-29 01:13 [#02622718]
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or maybe it's like that crap where whisky can be "pete-y" and, like, i might know what that tastes like? but i don't know which taste to map to the word?
so i might have heard that and i'll be like, "ohhh, yeah, that."
but i think it's more fun to just do nothing and snooze like erwin's cat in a superposition
i'd like to double down on this thought. that i may have heard "born in the usa" and i'll be like, "ohh, yeah, that" when i listen. or maybe i haven't, consciously, and it will sound vaguely familiar but... still new-ish.
meanwhile, i am, as i said, snoozing like erwin's cat in a superposition. to my vague, possibly incorrect theories of what "born in the usa" sounds like, i can add everyone's discussion of it. while still not yet sure if i'd actually remember it. i'm sure i'll wind up hearing bruce springsteen eventually. this is not some hardcore commitment. it's more like... no, i think it's more fun to just leave it up in the air for as long as it lasts.
do appreciate the link anyways, marlowe.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-29 01:25 [#02622719]
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again, totally not my plan, how this thread wound up. remaining in a superposition. maybe i know this, maybe i don't; let's see what bleeds through
no, i made this thread because i go from "0 bruce springsteen references today" to "2^4 bruce springsteen references and climbing." i suppose, it's noise in my news and that bothers me a bit, but actually, what really pisses me off is that it works in general, like, this is all it takes to drive an album up the charts for christmas; a solid name from Back When Music Wasn't Autotuned Algoithmic Shit and a massive old-skool PR campaign with interviews and probably talk shows too; perhaps billboards
so in a really distant way, i guess i'm just pissed at steve iodine or whatever his name is, getting something to work, that really should not work, but it does, and it's also noise in my news
but i think i've been very clear that i'm not lobbing any of this at bruce springsteen; he's just the man of the moment
so hell, that sounds better.
is he like an american van halen?
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-29 08:00 [#02622727]
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amazing though how business still works that way in the age of junkfluencers etc..
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big
from lsg on 2022-11-30 16:26 [#02622818]
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river, the
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-12-01 00:13 [#02622828]
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i have encountered numerous articles, flavors, quotes from -- actually it was jimmy iovine, not stevie iodine, right -- from People In Charge and it's kind of like, "...yeah, none of the new stuff reliably sells so we're just rinsing out bob dylan's now-pwnd catalog and using steve jackson's editing to sell beatles re-issues"
...and i just think: of course, you manufacture bands like Hansen for a few decades, make them popular with a media blitz, perfect their voices with autotune, and you're surprised they drop off the radar as soon as you stop pumping money into promotion? that they have no staying power? because they had no individuality, no message; they only succeeded through your marketing machine.
not that i was thinking of this either 20 years ago, but: it would have gone a lot better if they'd spread out their bets with some slow growers, some weirder music, cardi b's back catalog won't be worth wiping your arse on 20 years from now
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-12-01 00:49 [#02622829]
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yeah i think i did just put cardi b in the same boat as hansen
not what i was trying to do, but cool.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-12-01 00:51 [#02622830]
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maybe they'll get steve jackson to edit a streaming-exclusive series on all the incredibly historic moments fomented by Sugar Ray. or Len
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-12-01 01:03 [#02622831]
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if you're putting together a nostalgic reel for the 90, the 00's and you didn't, or don't know things like drukqs exquist[s|ed], it's basically like, "the moment they used that smash mouth song in that movie" and "when justin timberlake exposed janet jackson's boob on the superbowl." being kinder, i can see people going back for britney spears, but clips of her shaving her head, and parodies thereof ("ohhh wow remember that weird spartan movie?" [300]) will be mixed in with an actual bit of music that i think will stand the test of time, "toxic"
toxic. actually, good example. max martin, please come back. was that him? anyways... produced to shit, autotune sure, but deep pop science harmonies; not a warbling rap [one voice, with no harmonizing] over a trap beat. but then, this is really max martin or whoever wrote it, not britney. the song, the video, arguably connected with her plowing adderall and shaving her hed, but did she sit down and pen the whole thing one day, trying to explain herself? no. max, or someone like him, looked at the buzz, listened to her very carefully as if she were a precious child, and then wrote a song to fit. i'm guessing, really, but...
meanwhile, michael jackson would beatbox his trax into a four-track. like, billy jean, he did everything. the drums, the bass, the stabs. just with his voice, into a four-track. then he took that into a studio and handed them the tape and started explaining what actual sounds to use for the various parts
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-12-01 01:13 [#02622832]
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there is some edge-case land in quantum physics where, like, you could theoretically, spontaneously teleport through a wall. there's nothing stopping it. instead, it's just so incredibly, vastly unlikely, that you could run all of time over again for every star in space and it still would probably not happen
yet, maroon 5 is still relevant somehow
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-12-01 01:26 [#02622833]
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i suppose there were plenty of actual moments that some will remember. like, it was summer vacation, and for some reason i woke up insanely early, and the first time i heard "tribute" by tenacious d was when MTV aired the video at 5:30 in the morning. that was mustard.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-12-01 02:06 [#02622837]
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i think rihanna is alright. what i've heard is she has a right proper ear for... they do it thunderdrome style; that sixteen producers have 12 hours and they all gurn on their laptops and pray they get bopped on the hed yes. or something. "like a diamond in the sky," she was reportedly on acid and thinking of her man when she came up with that line. then picked a producer for it, who wrote the rest. so when someone actually does have a direction, it can come through.
but the thunderdrome approach. wall of producers. sixteen pitches, made in a few hours, three or four win the contract and they blast the rest out in a week or three.
so, like, even if someone has enough of an identity to make the song about something -- still happens, thankfully -- there are few with strong ideas about... the sound, the beat, harmonies
i don't follow too closely, but the few i've heard from billie eilish sound good. her producer is her brother, just down the hall. it's not like she has two weeks in the studio to bang it out. instead, just toss ideas around, try stuff out for a bit. and you get xanny, where... it is a thoughtful song someone wrote themselves, and then the producer is on the same page and very good too, the way the vocals are processed to sound like the way your voice gets cut-up as you try to yell to someone over the bass at a houseparty; still need to sort out exactly how he did that
that, i dunno, sorry, i'll stop rambling. whole situation just rather annoys me and i'm fumbling for solutions
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-12-01 07:56 [#02622840]
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the discrepancy of artistic freedom and musical skills within these examples is obnoxious. im not affected by the media anymore. is someone who uses spotify? thx to the sharing on the internet i delved into the backcatalogue of renowned legends from the 20´s to 1980´s. from jazz to rock and its developments. and plenty of weird computer music from all decades obviously. there is just so many gems and great works, that stood the test of time, i hardly care to listen into recent stuff, when there is so much gold to discover from musicians that dedicated their lives to creating music. sometimes however i play some Arte Tv Concerts or watch Tracks to see what is recent skillful popular to trendy music like. there is good stuff too in between the arty rubble. when i tune into the world music radio station im always curious but its usually about the news for me.
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