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offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-16 00:51 [#02622323]
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thread motivation ~ that i find myself of an opinion
that... no, this is not the vast majority of people, but i
do feel that it's not just me, to the point where it's worth
saying out loud, maybe -- and i effectively wish to reality
check this by running it by some other people

thread content ~ it was the peak of the 2020
pandemic, the donald causing the worst stock market crash in
history, and i, along with many others, were quite into
"watching things." that i blew through the first season of
westworld; the first two of star trek discovery. then i got
some notice from my ISP warning me that i was torrenting
stuff and threaten threaten etc. and so i thought: "i'll get
back to these once i get a VPN to avoid this horseshit" and,
well, i never did.

since then, everything has balkanized -- this or that is
locked up in disney+ or whatever impossibly confusing tiers
AT&T, no that's only on netflix. so now, people that
actually didn't pirate stuff are also saying "i guess i'll
get back to this later"

and there's this thing known as "buzz" -- like, people
talking about a show, and that gets more people to watch a
show, and that's what makes tentpole series like westworld.
the people who pirate shit often have it all first, and
they're the ones talking about it and building buzz that
gets the people who don't have the marbles to pirate, to buy
it, and, well, this does not work for small indie things,
but for something HBO-tentpole scale, fuckers done right
shot themselves in the foot because i'm not sure if anything
can ever get big as game of thrones did ever again. you
can't pirate it, it's streaming service one of twelve,
people only have the cash for one or two, then others like
me don't see any value in a streaming subscription.

most people will file into marvel comic book movies like
sheep and pay for disney+ even though they pulled the stevie
wonder episode of sesame street, but suspect others have
tapped out


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-16 01:13 [#02622324]
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i guess i also think of back when people got in Deep Legal
Shit for w4r3z and Adobe is like "photoshop costs $600 and
you distributed a million copies you caused $600 million in
damages" but then 9/10 of the people pirating photoshop were
14yo kids with $112 to their name and you think they'd just
save up and buy photoshop if they can't pirate it? no,
they'll just use MS Paint and be totally happy with that
because photoshop is some walled off thing they can't touch
and no one knows what they're missing.

so, like, i haven't looked, but i have a strong hunch
that... the balkanization of streaming, increasingly
aggressive policing of torrenting during lockdown... all
this will very closely match the declining viewship numbers
of westworld.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-16 02:13 [#02622325]
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that, actually, it was st:discovery that got me a
robo-violation letter, and that was (is? [who gives a rat
fart]) exclusive to... CBS something streaming something?
and then i think literally same week, i love the movie baby
driver so much i bought the dvd and the cd soundtrack
despite having a nice clean 1080p pirated copy. that i'm
never going to be some nut that buys a novelty game of
thrones throne, but there is a reasonable buck if you stop
guarding everything like an anemic starved rat clinging to a
quarter of a peanut


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-16 07:33 [#02622329]
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never was affected by the buzz cause im not huge into
socialization and i basically work on the road. i´ve
managed to not get spoiled the end of GOT for years until i
got a hand on it. there are always rather safe ways to get
anything you want. torrents dont belong into that category
any more unless they re niche.
the balkanization as you call it surely has its pros and
cons. those services battle hard for the market, thus
producing fucking expensive shows some with high quality
too. obviously half the population cant afford all of those.
but there is always ways, so i rather see the benefits of
it. another thing is, local laws kind of make it hardly
worth to simply pursue everybody. its not as easy as a
traffic ticket. the main targets of the police are site
admins making millions with ads/hosting and for specialized
law firms its uploaders, preferrably with bonity check, so
theyll get their money quick and without any hassle. so the
vast majority of illegal consumers stays untouched.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-16 07:36 [#02622330]
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oh, one more thing, fuck amazon,
they´re not getting my money.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-17 01:24 [#02622337]
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numerous good points to unpack here

never was affected by the buzz cause im not huge into
socialization and i basically work on the road.


i started off saying, "i'm not really the average case here,
BUT i feel that not only not alone, but i am onto a general
trend that actually ~is~ bleeding into john. j. average
case

i´ve managed to not get spoiled the end of GOT for years
until i got a hand on it.


i read the first two and a half books on summer break from
college, and, oh, do i want to start over with those
confusing-ass books, or with the TV version, and... weird as
it may sound, i've never seen any GOT at all just because i
still just can't handle... how to handle... how i should
figure out handling... AUGH

there are always rather safe ways to get anything you
want.


and then we get back into my lede for the westworld,
st:discovery copyright trolls: i could still pirate this,
absolutely. in fact, like i said, i kind of just stuck a pin
in it, like, "do that later"

but then i didn't wind up doing that, simply because i had
other things to do and kind of just... forgot about it?

so this "streaming exclusive" crap is essentially the apple
of eris.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-17 07:36 [#02622342]
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well, yes, john j. average surely feels the pressure to keep
up with the latest. it goes so far that my under 11 yo
nephews are allowed to watch the squid game by their parents
because all of school watches it. apparently it has arrived
at kindergartens too. the cultural impact of "must see tv"
is bigger even than the financial issue imo, cause i know
quite a few people who switch and cancel trial subscriptions
like clothes to keep up and dont actually pay for more than
one service at a time. or share subscription like i do with
netflix. so there is even legal ways around it.

im glad we kind of watch what we want and not what we feel
has to be watched. furthermore that you have other things in
life. actively creating your life and free time is
undervalued.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-17 07:47 [#02622344]
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kids are watching way more influncers on youtube than actual
tv i think. their eyes are glued to the phone like alex in
clockwork orange. my niece is watching things on her phone
everywhere she is. e v e r y w h e r e and in the bed during
the night. they have wrinkles under their eyes like they
work 12 hour shifts. she could be einstein if only she
watched something useful, instead of some assholes marketing
a video game when she is not playing any videogames at all.
this is going to be some fucked up generation and i hope
they´re gonna be able to manage this new world. i know my
media consumation is out of hands at times already.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2022-11-17 12:58 [#02622359]
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did you like season 1 and 2 of STD?

I only watched redlettermedia shit all over it.

I gave Star Trek Picard a shot, but it was the worst thing
I'd ever seen and it made me so embarassed that i literally
tore down my star trek tng poster from the bedroom (this is
a true story)


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-18 07:34 [#02622409]
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std: nah, i was giving it a chance, after initially being
put off, as being another take and kept watching into season
2. i enjoyed the latest movies, since they were a fast paced
mix of action and classic star trek, which i dont know why,
worked.
but STD wasnt for me. too military. hardly any science and
sci-fi aspect, and well you know, the klingons... using
worfs words: "we dont talk about it"

havent dared watching picard yet ^^


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-11-18 07:48 [#02622410]
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thinking about it, i remember wondering why they used the
star trek franchise for this show. it could have been an
above par sci fi series, but it hardly bares any resemblance
with the star trek universe of the previous 703 episodes,
nor their style of story telling.

however im ok with it being out there. like id have people
try something new than not doing it at all.

with picard thats a bit different, cause im a bit afraid hes
not portraying the man i used to see in TNG and it might be
a bit hard to ignore afterwards, but i guess i will watch it
eventually.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-23 15:20 [#02622565]
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so disney read my ranting and brought back bob iger ~
LAZY_TITLE ~ but maybe it was because someone else read
my ranting and wrote an article on the death star cocking up
time-warner, HBO, westworld, etc.

and the common theme is all these idiots are desperate for
numbers; pour billions into exclusive content. people being
rational, they subscribe to each streaming service in turn
for a month and then click a single button to cancel it; see
you in six months when you've blown another 2 billion
dollars

it's almost like it would be a better business model to just
license content

in fact, case in point ~ here is an article about how
to watch, like, probably one of the most decent new movie...
things... out and about now. and it's an article trying to
help people who are confused: can i watch this on netflix,
or... ?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-11-23 15:33 [#02622566]
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ST:D is just fun. the way mudd comes back with a time
crystal... just, like, yeah, let's just have as much fun as
we can with this formula! and it is indeed a blast. the
constant cheeky references to mushrooms and conformal
symmetry; the tardigrade

then, i dunno, Sonequa Martin-Green, she blows my mind. i'm
not the sort that usually, like... notices acting? but, just
the the stuff she does with little twitches in her face.
it's just this massive firehose of bandwidth; she speaks
entire paragraphs without saying a word. and again, i
usually don't notice acting like that.


 


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