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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-08 22:57 [#02619750]
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-07-08 23:10 [#02619751]
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thats a wild ride, i like it over most parts i got lost in it
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-07-08 23:12 [#02619752]
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oh and nice watch .-)
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-09 00:08 [#02619753]
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thanks i get lost in it myself it's no good otherwise.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2022-07-09 00:27 [#02619754]
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Watched it 3 times. It's good, bit messy, lead synth a bit loud, like the drums. Probably not the target audience so much since I'm truly only interested in compositional output rather than gear and skill based playing, both of which you seem to possess in abundance. I don't know what any of that shit you're using is, and have never really cared, but it sounds pretty good.
Do you think your output would benefit from recording all this into a DAW and heavily editing?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-09 01:32 [#02619760]
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so i took a high school class that was a lab full of mac G3s with a korg X5D each. after a year of that, i got a cable modem, went on summer break, and discovered you could pirate synthesizers off the internet. and i was hooked; next year i was pirating everything i could during the week and looking forward to trying them out during the weekend
then fast-forward a few years; it's so fucking overbuilt. it takes me fucking hours to do anything i'm sick of this. i think prodigy liam had a similar moment with his overbuilt hardware setup before switching to reason, i believe
then i started getting hardware and just abandoned all the plugs. i'd never really played anything live. guy who was probably my most diehard fan actually got furious at me but i refused to budge. because, you know what? this is fun again now
that was approximately 2007. and now it finally sounds as good, if not better, than the shit i spent hours on with plugs, and i'm recording it live instead of spending hours editing.
but the real kybosh, editing noep, about half of my setup is a giant, lovingly tuned feedback network of delays and busses and i'm not even sure it'd still work if you tried to put a computer in the middle to grab all the magic... and even then, how do you get it back out?
if i had a massive budget, i'm sure i could swing it. do it exactly as i'm doing and get multitrack instead of the classic stereo to disk. but i don't. so no edits, no arguments, and i have to say this has forced me to get better.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2022-07-09 01:57 [#02619761]
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cool man I'm glad you found a way to make it fun. I think the second you start making anything for other people the motivation switches from intrinsic to extrinsic and the soul is lost. Getting a few listens is nice though, regardless.
keep it up, good luck
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-09 02:03 [#02619762]
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i guess. patching like: buss 3-4 of mixer goes into moog grandmother's utility section, attenuator into high pass; important for ear tuning. usually i'll then run that into the moog's arp gate input, but no, that day it's just going into osc 2 pitch, osc 1 out into osc 2 lin FM, back to utilities to use the mult to feed the lfo wave out to gate in, then finally lfo s/h out is what goes back and splashes bursts of arp. but of course this is a modern midi-moog and it receives clock, notes, so the arp spam is quantized, i'm feeding it notes and clock from the keystep pro, but then i can still just reach out and fill in some additional notes at an appropriate moment of frisson (1:40- )
and so do i capture the midi somehow, too, the unique one-off arp spam that's effectively a poor bastard's envelope follower coming off of a buss that... well, a few things go into it
i'm waiting for someone to finally understand why i can't multitrack + edit this shit without a few orders of magnitude more equipment. i expect to be waiting for a bit i have been told this so many times
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-09 02:08 [#02619763]
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you don't see it in the vid but there's also a behringer model D (track 6) run through a big muff pi but then grandmother's arp's KB velocity out goes model D LC gate and then filter output of moog grandmother goes into model D osc 1 CV, but this is all just window dressing for the external audio fed into it
just, like, again, even if i intercepted the signals, it's such an organic salad that edits would be impossible because all the quibits won't have the same spin
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2022-07-09 02:14 [#02619764]
Points: 4881 Status: Lurker | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02619763
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I don't know what any of that stuff is that you mentioned. Like any of it. Been making tunes for 20 years but the second it becomes arp velocity model D LC gatge 1 cv midi moog recieves clock into keystep pro to send my osc 2 lin FM,. My eyes glaze over.
The output is all that's important. Just learn to sequence and throw a few effects on. Or spend that time building crazy sequencers themselves like autechre. Build everything in an understandable session and call it good.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2022-07-09 02:15 [#02619765]
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I don't think anythings stopping you from recording that straight into ableton and tweaking without "loads more gear," other than an extreme OCD
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-09 03:24 [#02619769]
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i'll be simpler, i think i can.
track 11/12 (which i'm just using as mono) is the output of the behringer ms-1, which i am actually using as a submixer of sorts for a couple of the drum parts. the actual sources for these drum tracks have been disabled from going to the main stereo out buss, but since the track is enabled, the aux sends that allow pre still work... so you either hear these parts mixed through the MS-1, or leaking out through layers of delay pedals, or both.
so, most obviously, i already have a layer of mixdown i cannot really record the sources from, and meanwhile, both those sources are coming out four or five other channels with everything feeding back on itself, and... i'm not sure i actually have individual channels anymore, thanks. multitrack, i'd wind up with a bunch of stuff that sounds the same when i play it all back at once, but even ducking aside a bad note on anything... it's all so bled into each other you may as well awkwardly mute half the track and then we're into dfhjgdfg manual edits on live funk that never ever come out quite like you want them to even after half a day on 20 seconds of audio
sequencing... i mean... you'll note i essentially did a small micro-version of "seeping in the sunshine" in the middle of that track. i didn't plan that, i simply felt like it. so i just played a bunch of another track i'd done in the middle
and, like, that was meant to make the eyes glaze over. like: do you know how wired into itself everything is? no? have a sip, here
but i should calm down. i've had this discussion too many times before. i should really just say
thanks for listening.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-09 04:02 [#02619770]
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i guess i would also add some... what was it shulgin called it? qualitative comments?
to me, this track roughly breaks down into three sections: the part before i start rehashing seeping in the sunshine and gradually fade my arc back into what i was doing [oh, shit, yeah, right, i forgot], then a third section with a grainy bendy sample
it's kind of bothering me. the grainy bendy sample, i swear i've lifted that from somewhere, or the feel of it at least. it's on the tip of my tongue, as they say -- i can feel the answer in there, but i can't pull it out. if you know who i've ripped off here, please do let me know.
that grainy bendy sample programming, though. it was a day or two before, i was up, shall we say, way past my bedtime, to the point where i am having to catch my face from falling into the digitakt. i have actually recorded entire tracks in this state, actually. but instead i am just driven; i can't stop fucking with this sample, i get it kind of right, then i mess with it, then i've totally changed it, rinse and repeat. i come back the next day, and it's like: i really have no clue what i did here, but this is fucking dope
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-09 04:06 [#02619771]
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humpty-dumpty. it's humpty-dumpty. you can't put my mixes back together on a computer
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2022-07-09 23:32 [#02619783]
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nice jam,i zoned out to it spect 2 the buzzcut 2
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-11 01:59 [#02619811]
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it's hot out
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-11 01:59 [#02619812]
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...and it's also hot out
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2022-07-11 02:50 [#02619813]
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Dammit, now I can’t dislike you as much with your mega posts
Love the jam. Gonna look at others
Dig the chrome dome…
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-18 06:01 [#02619926]
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so, like, i tried just buzzing it back in, like 2014, and it was like: oh my god i had no idea how annoying hair was until i got rid of it. and i really tried it because it was summer, and i thought: oh, it'll be lower-maintenance
...but it's not. you have to keep up on it or it reliably approaches a hal-fgrown back stage and people were all "you look better with hair" even before that hit
so i gave up on that, but was like, yeah, might go there again someday
now global is worming and i've gone into it with more actual thought and i purchased a proper buzzer and all that. and i have to say. this is, kind of, like, a missing element. trying to sleep my whole life, i'll wake up from sleep pooled in sweat, or then i'm too cold and i can't sleep, back and forth. without hair i seem to thermally regulate like i meant to.
but, by far the best thing: being able to splash water on your scalp after walking 1.1mi in 85f heat and it's like, holy shit, instant cool down, that is just amazingly effective, it's a trip
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-18 06:08 [#02619927]
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i always kind of wondered if monks shaved their heads for the same reason you put a heatsink on a CPU. then once i tried shaving my head, like, if you're serious about meditation, it genuinely does help your focus. so, oh, that's it. now i think it's both
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-18 06:12 [#02619928]
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but the buzzer i got is shit despite my best efforts to sort out the reviews and what's a good buzzer that won't overheat
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-18 06:32 [#02619929]
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my mega-posts, right. that was kind of why... i was almost desperate, like, i have to get one of these on video. people don't understand. they don't get it
and yeah, drawing shapes on the microfreak, the moment where my right hand is playing a solo on the microfreak and the rest of me is looking at the mixer and clearly puzzling over something, and i make a "what the heck?!" gesture with my left hand, meanwhile right robot claw is effectively a spawned copy of ymslef
went and found it, drop in at 2:00 for a little lead-in and watch right robot claw vs. where my head seems to go at 2:05-2:10 and beyond
[essentially: i'm looking at the signal/overload lights on each channel and something is not correct. ...and, eventually... oh, the monotron cutoff is way too clamped down. and fuck it, that sounds good, let's just switch on that and the other delay at once and see how that goes, and i get these lovely rhythmic cascading waves of noise, and great, i don't have to stop the recording {and meanwhile right robot claw still shredding the whole time, as all that is kind of what's going through my head. i solved it more or less in the nick of time before it ran out of buffer}]
it's kind of subtle. but i played the vid back, and i'm like: holy shit. you can actually see it. i absolutely did not expect to capture, like... arguable proof.
but i don't really care if anyone goes back to bother and look at this moment. i'm just happy i caught it. like i said, i didn't expect to, i really just wanted to prove that i do all this shit live and yes i can shred thx. and i got such a lovely bonus
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2022-07-18 15:09 [#02619946]
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you get a bonus ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-19 03:33 [#02619958]
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yeah fair nevermind my long-winded nerd ramble
short version is i'm quite happy with how this turned out, but also feeling quite smug about all the times someone was like "oh fuck off you're not playing that live it's all on the computer"
hope to continue along these lines.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-19 03:34 [#02619959]
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like, now that you have a visual image, and a technical sense of how i am doing it all, i'll just pick one for us all to go back to
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