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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-02 15:50 [#02619610]
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HEAD_VOICE
i first heard the term in some promotional interview for adele's "rolling in the deep" and i was kind of like: oh wow i think i know that thing
i sing a bit here and there because it's good exercise for the breathing machinery, and, well, it's also just fun... but alone in the attic, by myself
and once i warm up a bit i am more or less ignoring my eyes; looking inside myself and paying close attention to where things resonate. like, okay, this note is up here, this note is down there. and that's when i properly begin to be able to hit them all, once i've kind of warmed up where all the resonances are.
then, okay, let's reach around a bit. that, actually, it feels more like... pushing down for lower end of the range, stretching upwards for the higher-end. i just had a distinct sense of it being like reaching for the rafters of a barn despite it being many feet above
but, there's kind of dilation like this as you reach further up or push further down. and it's very satisfying to... i dunno, reach up and hit the window in the cathedral, somewhere, in the middle of your forehead, or even further, imagine you could resonate the roof
but that dilation, combined with push down/reach up, it works more like a seesaw, there's a point in the middle where the dilation nullifies itself and that feels about where you'd place the heart chakra in the ol' chakra stack and those other ones seem like they're chakras too.
mostly just wondering if anyone had any thoughts. no one's really told me much of anything about singing
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-02 17:29 [#02619616]
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i've had some good success where, when... after reading my long-rant... and actually trying to follow it... i've gotten "yes, yes, i get what you're saying" and that's a very satisfying needle to thread.
but this one, i really have a hard time verbalizing. i was listening to beach boys again recently, and i started to hear vocal choruses as one voice. or, like, i can if i want to. like as if it's a single person singing in multiple vectors, or... gugh. but, anyways, it's an option to hear it like that now, and it's quite interesting to me, though still nascent and fuzzy, so i've largely let it keep going. but that probably doesn't explain it
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-02 17:32 [#02619617]
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i guess even the idea of deciding how you want to hear something might be a bit strange to most folk
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-02 17:34 [#02619618]
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it's just like radio where everything is there at once; you tune into one station at a time. do i want to listen to the percussion? do i want to try and hear the bass and the percussion as one unified sound? etc
switching lenses, that fits a bit better. or... context
but let's not get me started on context again
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2022-07-03 01:04 [#02619641]
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do you know how to play the piano? do you intrinsically understand scales the theories that relate to scale?
I don't really understand any of that. I can find the correct note after trial and error but it takes awhile. My "head voice" has it replicated perfectly but finding it physically is another story.
I'm quitting my job in 3 weeks. Taking 1-2 months off, I can float on my credit card for that time.
My plan is to learn the basics of piano (it'll take well beyond the 1-2 months for sure) and see if I can up my melody game that way. Maybe be able to say like "that's F sharp" without hesitation.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2022-07-03 01:12 [#02619642]
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my question probably doesnt relate cause I didn't really understand what you were saying tbh
call it a "pizza problem"
but my point broadly, pulling apart sounds to figure out how they were created seems like something you can only do after having a real grasp of the fundamentals, or with a LOT of time failing and trying again.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-03 03:11 [#02619644]
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i guess it's like this ~
summer 2020, and i am playing "girls" by prodigy in my hed, while taking a shower. there was some study on being able to voluntarily give yourself goosebumps -- well, i cannot manually switch them on, but i can give myself goosebumps reliably by playing songs in my hed. the same way you cannot directly control your salivary glands, but you can think very hard of delicious food and switch it on anyways.
so i'm doing this to myself, and i realize: i don't know this drum part here. listening to girls, i've never specifically consciously tuned into this part while actually listening to it, and i'm playing it my hed, in the shower, and i try to listen to that part and realize i don't have it. but the song overall has been hashed and so i still emotionally enjoy it
i understand synthesis and production quite thoroughly, though. late 2013, i'm working on my maritime-themed brainjuke album, and i think: i need a sound that sounds like singing, clicking dolphins. ok. i think. yes, the ms2000 for this. i had the patch nailed in <15m and judge for yourself
on piano, i answered this. it's like i know the notes i want, but i have oven mitts on, and my journey has been to merely develop more proper resolution with my playing. but i did take two semesters in college of keyboard to clean it up, and four semesters of music theory, which i get the feeling i actively use somehow but i really couldn't say how specifically
here, here is how i am on piano, i wrote it up earlier ~ LAZY_TITLE
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-03 03:25 [#02619645]
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while we're on the subject of weird useless skills like voluntary goosebumps after ten or twenty seconds of meditative focus, crying voluntarily seems like... maybe that'd be a bit more useful.
it's hard to explain, but i feel like i almost have it, without having to rummage around and use emotion to conjure genuine tears -- just mind over body directly. like, i can feel the right node points and i've actually managed a tear once or twice. i heard many years ago actors can do this. i'm on the fence about researching it. maybe i'll learn more sorting it out on my own
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-03 04:02 [#02619646]
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the intelligent branjuke album, i recorded that whole thing in a day, i was on quite a tear back then. and the thing people say sometimes, like "if you just put that into one track instead" and i do think they're right sometimes. but, this day, they were utterly wrong, i was on a tear, just kind of like... boom, done, there's another in the bank, what else do i need to fill this album. was absolutely the right decision to just keep moving
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-03 04:20 [#02619647]
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LAZY_TITLE ~ probably one of the cheekiest things i've ever recording really, i'm like -- i'm going to do green submarine, both like a joint is a green submarine, but yellow submarine is all hippy and i think i'll go fascist
so the ingredients were like 1) the intro with me ripping off the beatles "eh-eh! eh-eh!" live on the mic 2) then continuing to yell deliberately crap german into the mic 3) dredged up some opera singer and yeah, sounds like hitler would be into this 4) recording of hitler yelling 5) i decided that mournfully howling dogs was the perfect thing to totally take the piss out of hitler yelling and try and tell me i am wrong
but, anyways, singing? i feel like i'm starting to get this a bit; i did actually want this thread to be about that
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2022-07-04 08:40 [#02619686]
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i didn't tell the piano finals story again, did i? because i'm sure i've told it here before and it fits
the end of the second semester of keyboards is a recital as an exam -- two pieces picked by the teacher, third your choice. i was pretty slammed with my other exams and i really had nothing prepared the morning of. so i thought: fuck it, i'll just make it up when i get there
and when i was asked to announce which piece i'd selected, i said something like, "i'm playing xylin room by autechre." peoples' parents and shit were there. the first two pieces, i did pretty meh, but then... well, i don't recall what i actually played, but i just went for three minutes and said "ok i'm done" and everyone clapped politely.
later the feedback was like -- i was kind of cringing watching you fight through the first two, but that third one was pretty good, what was that
and that was a bit awkward to answer because i hadn't planned that far ahead
it's always been a bit of a smirk i've carried with me throughout the years. but yeah, i'm a fumbly mess with sheet music. better when i ignore it and go by ear, but i'm very much keeping track of which keys i press as i do
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