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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:21 [#02615374]
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 16:25 [#02615375]
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oh man, that's bad news
rest in peace meme twin brothers
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:30 [#02615377]
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RIP, unfortunately they had a history of questionable decision making, but don't we all!
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 16:33 [#02615379]
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im triple jabbed man because i dont want to fucking die
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:38 [#02615381]
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Yeah likewise, more like I don't want to spend months in hospital with a tube rammed down my throat then die
I mean maybe Big Pharma are going to produce jabs every year for the rest of my life but I assume there are enough people with good will/conscious in the medical/research industry that this a legitimate thing, either that or listen to the likes of Right Said Fred/Bogdanoff Twins
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:40 [#02615382]
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I think some experts are saying though that COVID is a lab experiment that escaped from Wuhan I reckon Occam's razor says its most likely, a City that has a massive Virology lab where they study Coronavirus being the source, well that seems really likely to me
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 16:41 [#02615383]
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i dont get the need for covid passes though jabs, yes, id card, no all i see on twitter and facebook is pro jab, pro id card or anti jab, anti id card i believe the virus is real but i dont like to see the government taking more and more power over our daily lives
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 16:42 [#02615384]
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ive seen conspiracy stories about a lot of heart attacks in football games and stuff, they reckon it's the jab. i dont fucking know.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:43 [#02615385]
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Maybe I'm being dead naïve and its some sort of shadowy effort to thin the heard/control the populous but scientists have been saying for decades this was going to happen we were overdue for ages, Its lucky its not a worse one
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:44 [#02615386]
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Yeah Im pro vaccination but anti ID Card
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:46 [#02615387]
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yeah my gfs cousin got blood clots on his lungs, there is no doubt the vaccine will have an adverse effect in some people and might have long term effects in others, but what we know for sure is Covid will fuck you up for certain so its a bit of a logical wager to just get the vaccination i reckon. I think alot of the hesitancy is about the misinfo about the technology involved in the new vaccines, which doesn't rewrite your DNA it just provides your cells the programming to produce the necessary antibodies, well as far as I can tell
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:51 [#02615388]
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No doubt the board of pfizer/moderna etc.. can't believe their fucking luck
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 16:56 [#02615389]
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What really made me get the jab was that my brother has a work college who had 3 family members die of COVID early on in the pandemic,
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 17:04 [#02615390]
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59853848
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 17:07 [#02615391]
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David Icke and his son make shit loads of money from this conspiracy circus. I know he was right about Saville but even a stopped clock is right twice a day, he had less credibility than a used tea bag when he said he was jesus on Wogan
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 17:07 [#02615392]
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Cinema looks nice inside though
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 17:17 [#02615393]
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wow the david icke page on wikipedia is really long now
lizard people
for me the old testament is truth
for him lizard people is the truth
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 17:23 [#02615394]
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Yeah its extraordinary how different people envisage the world reality isnt it. Suppose it would be boring if we all thought the same!
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 17:24 [#02615395]
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trying to dwell on an objective reality, like a hyperobjectivity is too difficult for one person alone to handle.
i see icke didnt do well in school, just like me, he probably spent his whole adult life trying to catch up like me, trying to work out what reality is. he's not really qualified to be a spritual leader of any kind, so it's a shame that he has so many followers
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 17:27 [#02615396]
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if i had a bunch of half educated followers believing everything i said without questioning anything i would cringe every second of the day.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 17:28 [#02615397]
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We are all just trying to make sense of it the best way we can i reckon. He has definitely made a career out of it though
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 17:29 [#02615399]
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yeah makes you wonder if you have to have some sort of degree of self delusion, he is essentially a cult leader
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kei9
from Argentina on 2022-01-04 17:40 [#02615401]
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anyone who tells people what to think is self delusional i think, or a fraud.
the whole "forcing people to vaccinate" thing is ridiculous and wrong. I personally think is moronic not to take the jab, but I wouldnt like it enforced on anyone. freedom is too limited already
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 18:06 [#02615402]
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yeah 100% i think it sets a bad precedent, cos yeah say I agree with being forced to be vaccinated, I might be forced to do something I don't want in the future, You shouldn't be able to force people to do something against their own will, its too authoritarian and oversteps the reach of what a government should be able to do
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 18:11 [#02615403]
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Having said that if this disease had a really fucking high death rate im not sure mandatory vaccinations would be unavoidable, i dunno depends on how much import you put on personal freedoms, versus other people snuffing it, its a tricky balance
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 18:16 [#02615404]
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>its a tricky balance
yeah medical doctors tend to be quite bossy by nature. i wouldnt like to be governed by a whole government made up of NHS workers. they would ban everything nice and make stupid laws banning computer games.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 18:23 [#02615405]
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yeah I must admit I avoid doctors and hospitals at all costs,
Talking hypothetically if there was a diseases that killed everyone who was unvaccinated would it be worse to let them die of their own choice and infect immune compromised people? or force them to take a vaccine they wanted. You could say its people who are ill with cancer and immo-compromised don't have a choice either
I'm playing devils advocate by the way, I dunno what the answer is, although im totally against ID cards and infringing privacy and your own bodily choices in general
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 18:24 [#02615406]
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I mean i wouldn't have liked to have been forced to take a vaccine
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 20:31 [#02615408]
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yeah imagine what will happen in america if the democrats force everyone to get the vaccine. gun nutters all over the place + anti vax conspiracies = civil war.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 20:53 [#02615412]
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its amazing how sort of similar to the Taliban they are with their flags and offroad vehicles, yeah i think in America in particular it would be impossible to implement
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 20:57 [#02615415]
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david cameron's friends in government used to call the rest of the tory party the turnip taliban
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-01-04 20:57 [#02615416]
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now add the factor economy into the mix and you will find yourself in the awkward position politicians are in now. the economy that is at stake depending on what measures you take. the amount of personal fates involved losing it all due to the pandemic with the measures to save the most people already set fire on a huge mass of very troubled people. i really fear what madness people might get into.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-01-04 21:00 [#02615417]
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yes, which would further progress cutting rights and nurture the police state. it´s a slippery slope.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:06 [#02615418]
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haha
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:08 [#02615419]
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yeah its sort of police state vs unnecessary deaths, what worries me is if you introduce vaccine passports in this day and age they will morph into some sort of ID/social credit system, cos when governments get more power over the populace they never give it back
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 21:09 [#02615420]
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the best thing would be to train an army... of lawyers to fight against the infringements to our liberties
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:12 [#02615421]
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yeah a cabal of suited vermin dispatched from Bomb bays like an cold war experiment
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:15 [#02615422]
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gfs sister has COVID and half of her family on her dads side
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 21:19 [#02615423]
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shiiet
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-01-04 21:21 [#02615424]
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we´d need to burn the cards once the pandemic allows it. ^^
chances still are the virus will be endemic but mostly harmless.
now i´ve learned about the social credit system in china, but people all over the world are way too sane, spoiled or stubborn to take that shit.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:23 [#02615425]
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yeah hope so to both your points, i know one thing id never accept an a social credit ID card, id rather be ostracised from society completely
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:24 [#02615426]
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well i am more or less all ready of my own volition!
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 21:27 [#02615427]
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i think the next step is chaos. chaotic fighting all over the world. small wars, big wars. starvation. disease. it could last a long time. to me the virus is the beginning of that for us. lots of places in the world have been going through this already.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 21:29 [#02615428]
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i said before we could be the next starving refugees, desperate to get to a safe place
that could happen sooner than you think
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:37 [#02615430]
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yeah like highlander, there can be only one
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 21:51 [#02615434]
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there will always be an xltronic
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-01-04 21:51 [#02615435]
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like even if you jack out of the matrix that is life, there will still be a xltronic website with forum
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-01-04 21:52 [#02615436]
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I wish I could log out of life for a few years and then press resume, that would be nice
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-01-04 22:11 [#02615438]
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yes, please maybe we could orbit around a black hole for the night. not too long though, we all saw planet of the apes and time machine
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-01-04 22:17 [#02615441]
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i wonder how long we could run on reserves given a total trade breakdown. most of the food we have in personal long storage isnt suitable for a real meal and could be consumed within two or three weeks. could be tooth and nail pretty fast.
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