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or has it evolved into something else by now? like are there really any new breakthrough artists or is it just the same old people that have been around for awhile now doing what they've always been doing? the only people making it are the people that have always known what it was and were the ones always making it? and will be the ones always making it? i mean it's kind of a niche genre that exists in a bit of a closed feedback loop i.e. there's a lot of elements & techniques that have escaped the genre and gone on to influence outside music whilst not really having brought any of those outsiders into the genre itself. it seems like you're more likely to hear idm's influence outside of the genre at this point than you are to hear groundbreaking idm or discover something new. i get the impression it's a system that became homeostatic at some point. |
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in short: there is still something out there & yes, some of it has found new grounds the tenner years have brought a lot of releases of at least some subgenres like drone, ambient, noise & breakcore. some new artists even. some collaborations or new formations. found many of those related to the even older noise scene. every once in a while i stumbled across electronica on indie labels in my emails, but i got to admit i kind of stopped looking and listening all day. its a general change in my life, that i feel i want less input and spend less time browsing on a pc. |
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what are the other folks thoughts on this? and how do you discover new music? |
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I think the genre and all of the big names (ae, aphex, boc, squarepusher, plaid, all of em) peaked between 2001 and 2003. They all have grown in technical expertise and have made a lot of good music since then, but the true innovation stopped there. I don't really know why. Alternately, it's possibly MY ears just changed. 2001 was when I first found afx and got into this music. I was 17 and it was a whole new world of sound. It's possible they're all still innovating and I just can't hear it any more. I don't know where to find good music. I make a pilgrimage once or twice a year to WATMM and check out some of the new release section, but WATMM leans heavy on pretty generic acid music and soft IDM. I want heavy hitters, I want the funk. I haven't found it in years. |
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the millennium certainly brought the genre defining releases for us. and we gave that a name. after that new genres and artists formed around and upon that and even got big stages. now we dont refer to it as idm, but new electronic dance music still could be coined idm given a few out of the box ideas are implemented. but since most of it doesnt sound as our genre defining albums anymore we certainly wont call it by that name. its like how you would call any doo wop band or oldies band formed today exactly that, doo wop or oldies. in the sense of this definition idm from today would only classify as idm if it soundedlike something like we expect it to. and here lies the dilemma/paradox. since we kind of expect the genre to fit certain criteria yet be inventive and revolutionize itself all over all the time, which then ends up getting a new name. |
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when you look around online shops, bandcamp and other portals you will still find the keyword idm in a lot of releases. and in general i do see them fit the criteria. so, it aint dead. it doesnt however appear as revolutionary or inventive to us anymore though, since we already heard a lot of it and probably the best of it. |
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Agreed on all. And as long as autechre are making music, the genre is alive and well as far as I'm concerned. Things are cyclical and there will probably be some compositionally fresh stuff after the next world war or something. And where's all the drill and bass at? I feel like that sound has been completely untapped since the RDJ album. For today my recommendation is pretty much anything by Frog Pocket. He's really *quite* good. |
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id love to hear our fave artists havin a go at drill / drum n bass again. some epic battle between rich & tom. whos the best? or a collab. get them back into a raving snaring tracker hacking. burningn tree vs drukqs. let them show trap & skrillex etc where its at. love be up a hello and collapse btw, waiting for parts 2 & 3 followups and blowing the speakers :) |
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it's still evolving imo, and always will... but there is a shit load of IDM out there already.. but I still discover new music. Atm I'd like to see a ground breaking record from one of the big names, ae, sp afx or vs, or boc. Besides the fact that'll be great news it also will show the talent of real IDM artists |
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i'm not sure |
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I’m sure. I said Yes |
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Yeah, i still like early 2000 style IDM and i just discovered Korg GADGET for the Ipad. Its just such an amazing tool to make with. I still suck at music, but i have fun using it. So who cares. |
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hi monoid! happy holidays |
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hi monoid! happy holidays Happier holidays and a bonus poll |
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Merry Christmas |
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