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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-06 01:35 [#02613453]
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if youre bored, check the comments on this, brilliant read
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-06 01:38 [#02613454]
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From the pair of them: Against The Clock: Rian Treanor & Mark Fell present Inter...
(Been playing Last Exit to Chickenley quite a bit recently)
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-06 01:47 [#02613455]
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it used to freak me out that Rian was Mark SND's son and he does basically the same thing, but then i realised - it's like blacksmithery or summat innit, most natural apprenticeship
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2021-11-06 02:09 [#02613456]
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Ha ha! Brilliant dialogue, I have a lot of sympathy for what they're on about, I've always been disappointed by the static character of a score in a daw or whatever - and also by Ableton cookie cutter "spontaneity".
Had no idea so many retarded faggots read thewire. Look at all the butthurt comments, an endless cascade of bukkake with an extra chromosome.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2021-11-06 02:11 [#02613457]
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oh ok some good comments too 👍
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-06 19:01 [#02613476]
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I think music notation was a decent starting point, its lead to loads of great music but of course when you think about it in any great depth its more or less arbitrary and isn't necessary at all to make good music. And yeah as Tony says those comments are full of people like that trumpet goblin
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-07 21:43 [#02613499]
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yeah, have those ppl ever even read the Wire..? I wonder where they all came from
its like midi files compared to mp3 init
i think what they're getting at is about jamming on stuff vs precomposing things, but it all gets a bit muddied cos Mark himself says that he likes drummachine stepsequences but doesn't like cubase style timelines, but these are just the same things on different timescales.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-07 21:46 [#02613500]
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could be a UI thing then
well into that Chickenley record
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-07 21:52 [#02613501]
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>>> could be a UI thing then lol, obvious ... what's that thing where you cant work out whether a statement is completely banal or so abstract that it's insightful
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mermaidman
on 2021-11-07 22:35 [#02613503]
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guys if i make a music and you interfere with my music from the comfort of your bedroom then we can create a new genre from this idea called trollnica
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RussellDust
on 2021-11-08 23:10 [#02613513]
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Clearly you just want to sound like you know what you’re talking about.
I love Mark Fell music and thinking, but clearly this is spontaneous chatter. It just seems like argument for the sake of it. Like comparing an architects plans with the actual finished work. “Oh are these drawings an actual building?” It’s also completely ignoring the role of a director in classical music. Even just interpretation. Take something not too “complex” like Satie. You can hear the same piece or writing played by three different performers and you’ll get three different pieces. I used to think I loved his stuff until I realised that loved his stuff played by Pascal Roge. I remember hearing Anne kefelec (iirc) playing Satie and I really disliked it. Anyway, there was a time before computers, even before expensive studio time. Pen and paper was a good start. It’s just cocky banter in my opinion.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2021-11-09 04:28 [#02613514]
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a score is like an analog sequence, but there are those who can look at one and hear the music in their heads
i mean if two musicians were stranded on a desert island with a bunch of scores and only one understood them, that person could listen to music in his head all day just by looking at the sheet music. can you recall an entire song off the top of your head? can you "listen" to all 5 minutes of your favorite track, beginning to end, inside your mind? you kind of just think of music in bits & pieces, don't you? if you can read a score, you can actualize more of the music in your head
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-10 00:29 [#02613522]
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Rusty would be screwed cos his fave music is Autechre!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-10 00:33 [#02613523]
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made me think of
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-10 20:01 [#02613548]
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hah thats one of the films that our 'music teacher' in comp school used to turn up, stick on, then fuck off again for 2 hours. I would respect him for it if he wasn't such a twat... He was on Weakest Link and got voted off in 2nd round
that thing about a fool looking at the finger instead of the Moon it points to
Academia has it real bad - obsessed with tools, on top of only able to navigate with rear view mirror
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-10 20:05 [#02613549]
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>>He was on Weakest Link and got voted off in 2nd round if that wasn't bad enough, on his exit interview he wasn't like "oh i had a good day out, i don't really care", he was all "i should've done this, shouldve done that", embaressing.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-10 20:12 [#02613550]
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>> if you can read a score, you can actualize more of the music
>> in your head I read something ages ago that musicians who have lots of practice memorising long things, offload it to the visual parts of their brain - like they are watching the score go by..
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2021-11-14 16:28 [#02613680]
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