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Mark Fell & Rian Treanor - Wire mag pile-on
 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-06 01:35 [#02613453]
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if youre bored, check the comments on this, brilliant
read
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offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-06 01:38 [#02613454]
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From the pair of them:
Against The Clock: Rian Treanor & Mark Fell present Inter...

(Been playing Last Exit to Chickenley quite a bit recently)


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-06 01:47 [#02613455]
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it used to freak me out that Rian was Mark SND's son and he
does basically the same thing, but then i realised - it's
like blacksmithery or summat innit, most natural
apprenticeship


 

offline Tony Danza from hollywood on 2021-11-06 02:09 [#02613456]
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Ha ha! Brilliant dialogue, I have a lot of sympathy for what
they're on about, I've always been disappointed by the
static character of a score in a daw or whatever - and also
by Ableton cookie cutter "spontaneity".

Had no idea so many retarded faggots read thewire. Look at
all the butthurt comments, an endless cascade of bukkake
with an extra chromosome.


 

offline Tony Danza from hollywood on 2021-11-06 02:11 [#02613457]
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oh ok some good comments too 👍


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-06 19:01 [#02613476]
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I think music notation was a decent starting point, its lead
to loads of great music but of course when you think about
it in any great depth its more or less arbitrary and isn't
necessary at all to make good music. And yeah as Tony says
those comments are full of people like that trumpet goblin


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-07 21:43 [#02613499]
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yeah, have those ppl ever even read the Wire..? I wonder
where they all came from

its like midi files compared to mp3 init

i think what they're getting at is about jamming on stuff vs
precomposing things, but it all gets a bit muddied cos Mark
himself says that he likes drummachine stepsequences but
doesn't like cubase style timelines, but these are just the
same things on different timescales.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-07 21:46 [#02613500]
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could be a UI thing then

well into that Chickenley record


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-07 21:52 [#02613501]
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>>> could be a UI thing then
lol, obvious ... what's that thing where you cant work out
whether a statement is completely banal or so abstract that
it's insightful


 

offline mermaidman on 2021-11-07 22:35 [#02613503]
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guys if i make a music and you interfere with my music from
the comfort of your bedroom then we can create a new genre
from this idea called trollnica


 

offline RussellDust on 2021-11-08 23:10 [#02613513]
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Clearly you just want to sound like you know what you’re
talking about.

I love Mark Fell music and thinking, but clearly this is
spontaneous chatter. It just seems like argument for the
sake of it. Like comparing an architects plans with the
actual finished work. “Oh are these drawings an actual
building?” It’s also completely ignoring the role of a
director in classical music. Even just interpretation. Take
something not too “complex” like Satie. You can hear the
same piece or writing played by three different performers
and you’ll get three different pieces. I used to think I
loved his stuff until I realised that loved his stuff played
by Pascal Roge. I remember hearing Anne kefelec (iirc)
playing Satie and I really disliked it. Anyway, there was a
time before computers, even before expensive studio time.
Pen and paper was a good start. It’s just cocky banter in
my opinion.


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2021-11-09 04:28 [#02613514]
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a score is like an analog sequence, but there are those who
can look at one and hear the music in their heads

i mean if two musicians were stranded on a desert island
with a bunch of scores and only one understood them, that
person could listen to music in his head all day just by
looking at the sheet music. can you recall an entire song
off the top of your head? can you "listen" to all 5 minutes
of your favorite track, beginning to end, inside your mind?
you kind of just think of music in bits & pieces, don't you?
if you can read a score, you can actualize more of the music
in your head


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-10 00:29 [#02613522]
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Rusty would be screwed cos his fave music is Autechre!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-10 00:33 [#02613523]
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made me think of


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-10 20:01 [#02613548]
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hah thats one of the films that our 'music teacher' in comp
school used to turn up, stick on, then fuck off again for 2
hours. I would respect him for it if he wasn't such a
twat... He was on Weakest Link and got voted off in 2nd
round

that thing about a fool looking at the finger instead of the
Moon it points to

Academia has it real bad - obsessed with tools, on top of
only able to navigate with rear view mirror


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-10 20:05 [#02613549]
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>>He was on Weakest Link and got voted off in 2nd round
if that wasn't bad enough, on his exit interview he wasn't
like "oh i had a good day out, i don't really care", he was
all "i should've done this, shouldve done that",
embaressing.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2021-11-10 20:12 [#02613550]
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>> if you can read a score, you can actualize more of the
music
>> in your head
I read something ages ago that musicians who have lots of
practice memorising long things, offload it to the visual
parts of their brain - like they are watching the score go
by..


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2021-11-14 16:28 [#02613680]
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