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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-09-28 01:10 [#02606341]
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My husband and I have a frequent disagreement on our 3-year-old and her love for dresses and all things pink! For the first two years of her life, she was constantly mistaken for a boy because she wore gender-neutral clothes. We direct her towards books and other media that do not represent traditional gender roles (no sparkle princesses!). We ask friends and family to refrain from commenting on her appearance and clothing, if they can help it, and to instead focus on skills or interests. However, our daughter adores the color pink, insists on wearing dresses, and is currently obsessed with accessories. I am fine with this, though I hope it will be a phase.
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i pity this poor child
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-09-28 08:30 [#02606347]
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me and my gf discuss this sometimes mostly when our toenails cringe seeing our 3 year old nice painting her face with make-up on christmas and owning and wearing nothing but glittery elsa brand stuff. literally.
her elder brother gets all kinds of fighting games and toys.
all very very traditional and gender specific and we hate the fighting stuff and girly stuff well almost to equal amounts. and we perceive the gender specific gifting quite suspectfully.
the answer to the question of the other parents explains how not the colour but the perception of it and the resulting treatment wearing it is the problem. now that is so very true, but as long as the childrens progammes, movies and culture portray pink as girly (and leading to a damsel in distress, not complete without a husband caring financially) and i dont see that coming to a stop, i share the same fear as those parents do :(
the writer furthermore says clothing your kid neutrally may actually mean clothing it more like boys. saturday we watched disneys Merida. perfect example how the problem also lies in our cultural heritage. she is forced to be married to a prince so there would be no war. put in to the fancy dress that she can barely move or breathe in. now my gf is a tailor and she actually makes these kind of dresses, wedding dresses and medieval clothing and these fancy dresses or wedding dresses were not made for doing anything else than allowing the wearer to do anything but have a drink and maybe a laugh. they can hardly go to the loo without help, many have problems even taking a seat.
the movie portrayed this absolutely correctly. merida tearing her dress to shoot in an arching contest displays it furthermore:
her determination to choose her own fate goes along with not wearing a fancy dress. she could have made that decision wearing whatever she wants, but when the movie was made the audience was expected to want this. see how we kind of are trapped in this?
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-09-28 08:33 [#02606348]
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now, dresses for children of course are usually meant to be able to play and move in them. my point is the perception still isnt where it should be.
i absolutely understand if nobody reads that too damn long post.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-09-28 14:11 [#02606351]
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It seems like only yesterday we were celebrating Roger Wilco's gender reveal...
They grow up so fast!
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-09-28 15:22 [#02606352]
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"we watched disneys Merida. perfect example how the problem also lies in our cultural heritage. she is forced to be married..."
Sorry, whose culture?
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-09-28 16:37 [#02606354]
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Some people are born with both bits. Or a fanny and balls etc. I don't wish these people ill at all. But the whole WATMM thing is lame. Choose from one of 18 genders. Fuck that, it's silly billy stuff.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-09-28 16:37 [#02606355]
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I still don't understand two spirit and why it's such a big deal
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-09-29 07:50 [#02606362]
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why you certainly can overthink it too much
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-09-30 06:59 [#02606422]
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how about harvey weinberg
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