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so am moving and i am packing up all my babies and there is actually a distinct difference i've noticed: with my moog grandmother, i pulled the original plastic wrap right back over, the foam fit back into the box flush, and from there it was obvious where to put the box for the power adapter; close it. don't even need to tape this; it's tight my behringer model d, however, proved to be a bit of a fight. the plastic bag it came in promptly developed one of those tears you get in a crisp bag; once it starts, that's it for it as a bag, really, you're just kind of wrapping it. the foam made me nervous; i was actually prodding it out a bit to avoid pressuring any of the knobs. then i could barely get the box closed; worried i was squooshing things. i don't need to tape this, but it's too tight we have all heard about "tolerances," which is engineering for "how close is close enough?" and i feel like this has even translated into the packaging material; it makes sense. i ask this as i also ask: i deeply miss having a real sh101, and is the filter for behringer's sh101 clone within tolerance thanks. |
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packaging for yamaha mixer was a mix. really had to fight to get the foam out of the box without tearing a chunk off. bagging the mixer, the bag held together a little better. foaming: once i sorted out the confusing geometry, the foam fit like a glove. boxing: some shoving to it all that in the box; actually was easier than getting the foam out of the box. no idea where the power cord was supposed to go -- whatever, it's just a normal computer one. had to tape the box up because it wasn't a foldy one i'd be getting off-topic with this, but i am not expecting wonderful things from the 4K TV packaging. perhaps it could be interesting, to compare the mysterious "ONN" brand to behringer. the manual does not have, like, a phone number, or a website, or whatever for the company, just some tech support email address. i googled all over trying to figure out where it was made and who made it and how and it is just a memory hole |
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vs. not or not allowed to simply pick; required you provide a lengthy dissection w/rt the relative differences |
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moog - no balls behringer - no brain i take no brain for cheap |
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sorry my post wasn't directed at you dadonck sorry |
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sorryman |
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moog - no balls hey, now, watch your mouth. bob moog will punch his way out of his coffin and sue this forum thread vigorously |
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he clearly means the new moogs bruh |
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Animoog is a great app its great great app really great app |
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anyone got a Behringer Wasp? i just did an impulse buy booze is bad |
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if i’d buy a behringer it would be the pro1 |
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dito |
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jtalton where you at in japan? have you ever been to five g |
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it say right next to his name from Hamamatsu lol |
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dont have a synth but, last week i unpacked my behringer usb keyboard, which was kept in upright position next to my desk for exactly a year after moving. tolerance of the guts was perfect. snug as a bug but easy to pluck from the box. the white keys now have a nasty yellow uv-tint except for the small stripes where they were shadowed by the black keys. it has 49 keys and sensitive touch which made me feel like a classy piano player and its number of assigned knobs made me feel like tweaking a real synth/drum machine. since it still works like a charm i am 98% satisfied (tint). it cost less than anything else, so anything else gets 0%. |
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Yeah i live in Hamamatsu which is where yamaha music and roland are from =) i feel guilty buying a behringer but fuck it i love my deepmind 12 so i figured i would give the wasp a go. Yeah i have been to five g. It is a basically a museum of all the best gear of all time. Highly recommend going there you will be shocked with what is just stacked up. 808s 909s jupiters etc etc |
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since it still works like a charm i am 98% satisfied (tint). it cost less than anything else, so anything else gets 0%. yes, actually, this is kind of what prompted the thread. like i mentioned, i had a real sh-101 for years, and i miss it very much. meanwhile, i've gotten the moog grandmother, which is actually quite suitable as a replacement. the sequencer feels like the sh-101's but with some options i always wished the sh-101 had (three patterns, accent, glide, etc.) and it has a shit-ton of patch points. and it does pretty good acid but i still miss the sh101 -- the sound, the layout. so i'm eying their clone, and i am deeply conflicted. the filter, in particular, if it is not 100%, i will be bothered. and meanwhile i already have a reasonably beastly monosynth and so either the behringer ms-1 is within tolerance or i should stick with my moog (and buy one of the other cool things behringer makes that i won't be as fussy about) |
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then the behringer ms-1 sequencer has gone a bit too computery, could go either way, not sure about |
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There is a sh101 at my second hand shop near the house going for 80000yen.i just cant forK out the cash. Sad to see it sitting on the sidelines though |
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also, it used to be MS-101, then they got sued or something, so now it says MS-1 and they just blacked out that part of the silkscreening -- they were too cheap to redo it just to move the "MS-1" to be flush with the edge of the panel; just an off-kilter gap where the 01 was. this actually quite bothers me, but i suppose i could just put a sticker over it, or doodle in the 01 myself with a white-out pen |
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yeah, and i suspect they'll continue to remain a reasonable investment for the the foreseeable future -- i definitely turned a profit on the sh101, just by keeping it maintained and using it for a few years. but it was like putting a pet down |
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after playing with the Wasp for about 1 hour i can say its pretty awesome |
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it looks like a 70s arcade game cpo i like it! |
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It will never be 100%, even if the only reason is your subjective experience. If you really want to own a SH-101 again, sell the Grandmother and get one. Don't have a Grandmother and a Behringer 101. You won't use either to their full potential. (disclaimer: spoken from my own bad track record of never using competing hardware enough. YMMV) |
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I see what you mean, but I'd rephrase it as: Moog - all heart Behringer - no soul |
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I'll add that I'm not a Moog fanboy or a Behringer hater. I don't own any moog gear, but I own the Neutron, which is decent. I was all set to buy the Wasp until I realized it had no CV modularity. Moog Matriarch sounds phenomenal though and I want one for the paraphony. I'm bored with monosynths outside of my eurorack. |
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all the sound except the drums are the wasp, with obviously a lot of effects. I like the filter alot but i agree it would have been better if they put more patch points. I am going to check out the pro 1 or K2 next |
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It will never be 100%, even if the only reason is your subjective experience. If you really want to own a SH-101 again, sell the Grandmother and get one. Don't have a Grandmother and a Behringer 101. You won't use either to their full potential. the first part, i think this is the right answer. i should not get the ms-1, because my brain will probably be all: hey, this isn't quite an sh-101, and it bothers us the second part, less so. i could have both the grandmother and the sh-101 and would absolutely use both at once. the grandmother has loads of patch points and i'd allow the interpatching to get compexicated, while the sh-101 would be a dedicated acid machine. i think the proper compromise is to buy some other stuff i miss first, like an mpc1000, and then be long-term patient, save money, try to spot an sh-101 for a good price sometime in the next two years in between, yes, i can see picking up another behringer something or other for a mere few hundert. i never got into making drum sounds on synths; felt a bit tedious. i do, however, love drum synth plugins, i'll grind out massive kits in 45 minutes on RMIV or my other ancient plugins |
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