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Who runs the BBC these days? It costs billions to run the media. It's usually the 1% corporate types. I prefer the rt's honest dishonesty to the BBC's mendacious dishonesty. Can't say I read RT religiously either. But I do love Polly Boiko. I used to spend all day reading the press online but most stuff is hidden behind a paywall these days to keep the oiks out. My mate Luka from Georgia hates Putin and RT, hates Russia. I hope we can keep the peace with Russia unlike that Biden turd who wants war with Russia. Russia today is propaganda, well shit on me, who knew? The best propaganda is truth and facts. As for BF or the demagogues and football hooligans, they are a tiny minority. |
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The best propaganda is truth and facts. wow, like, deep man 🤔 |
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I think it was a mistake to allow the BLM protesters to get away with attacking statues without any repercussions. I think there is sympathy and concern for the BLM campaign for obvious reason, where there are none to the FLA that are largely profiled as white racist thugs. |
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BBC has alot of bias and political appointees depending on which government is in power at the time. I wouldn't call it an out and out propaganda machine myself, I dont watch it if I want an unfiltered news source Russia today is on a whole different level IMO when it comes to fabrications, twisting of the narrative. I dont know why im even trying to justify it, its so blatantly transparent |
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Anyway I dont want to argue about it as I consider you a mate I Feel its obvious that they are using this opportunity of social upheaval to drive a wedge between sections of our own society. The working class have been largely forgotten by successive government, but to portray those pea brained racists/millwall fans as representative of the working class is a massive lie |
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I mean they are very successful at this sort of thing, we are all arguing against ourselves, we aren't each others enemies are we? |
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vladislav surkov was officially sacked recently, i wonder who's tasked with media manipulation now |
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Ive nothing agaisnt Russia, America and Uk do the same thing to different extents. Its just Russia currently have whole heartedly adopted disinfo and troll farms to a massive extend, its incredibly effective for the amount of money invested. Its probably no surprise given the fact Putin is KGB/FSB himself. |
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can i also give props to steve here for a truly baffling post, nice 1 |
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I guess the one thing you should never talk about if you want to keep friends is politics in any great depth. Its in no way an emotional issue for me personally |
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perhaps we should all just unite in fancying shatner |
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Ive tried to keep my mouth shut, but the Russian government have a very antagonistic view of the UK they think of it solely as a American outpost/military base to further western imperialism. In some ways they are correct but its quite dangerous to take what they say as gospel. Putin's motives are not good IMO |
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do you know what happened to vladislav surkov ? |
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seems to have been sacked and disappeared off the media map, for now. consultant for some less visible gangster capitalists is my guess, unless he's fallen foul of daddy putin. remains to be seen what the russian bear will do next in ukraine etc |
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yeah the annexation of the crimea was exactly the political theatre predicted by people like Adam Curtis and Peter Pomerantsev |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eyhO8VTdg What was McCain doing in Ukraine? Why was he there? Why were America interfering in Ukraine? Will Biden continue the anti Russia agenda and press for war? |
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No one is contesting america dont do similar things. Fox News is just as bad as Russia today |
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The whole of Americas/CIA policy with south and central america is a blue print in how to undermine democracies |
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i dont know why you would think what im saying about Russia would be dependent on something else not being true also |
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that video is from 2013 when ukraine was pursuing closer ties with the EU, mccain was flexing his diplomatic muscles cos the republicans wanted their trade and to get em nice n westernized, gas reserves nudge wink etc. that's a gross oversimplification but read up on the 2014 ukrainian revolution leading up to the annexation of crimea |
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I guess both countries what hegemony over the European continent and world influence in general. America want to box Russia in. Russia considers Ukraine and Baltic states as directly under their sphere of influence |
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RT can have value. Before they took away South African need for Russian visitor visa, I would go to the consulate and they would play RT in the waiting room. They do report on things. It is news. Except they paint Russian acts of aggression as people's liberation. Of course there is no true objective news source. I don’t trust most things. But I especially don’t ducking trust RT. |
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yeah thats the insidious cleverness to it, alot of what they say is truth to lend credence to the stuff that is poorly disguised untruths propagation from the Russian state department. |
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Its weird its like a mirror image of Fox news, they both do the bidding of oligarchies/kleptocracies but fox seems more aimed at domestic politics and the occasional war, where Russia Today really seems to promote Russian foreign policy |
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Anyway I dont want to have a disagreement with Umbro, my beef is with the world we are living in, the disinfo I see on twitter and youtube everyday. There is stuff that makes RT look rational. |
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cliff you are allowed to come out as a racist on this messageboard you don't have to couch it in fake concern |
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There is such an abundance of information, you can make any position you like seem tenable and correct and back it up with 10 articles. |
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The socratic method... |
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i mean no that's exactly the kind of sophistry socrates would destroy |
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Asking questions and playing dumb slightly is not sophistry. Louis Theroux does it all the time. So does Sacha Baron Cohen. |
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pls stop giving cliff a hard time |
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well |
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i cant watch him for that reason, the pretence of naivety |
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Ah, the race card gets thrown in another cheap snidey dig from you. Your becoming a bit of a weirdo stalker now. Don't go all Melton John. |
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in the UK. Thanks America. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiYdvNlP7Aw |
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eh? have you got as far as: A peaceful Black Lives Matter protest took place at the park earlier today. There is no suggestion that the incident is linked to any protests. ...yet? or is there another connection i'm not seeing? |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLxkHSX6cZI |
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that's not what race card means |
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It didn't happen at the BLM protest, but it's likely due to the race related tensions, or an act of terrorism. I maybe wrong though, it could just of been a casual mass stabbing by someone with no actual motive. |
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hmmm, at least you acknowledge you could be wrong. maybe shift yr preconceptions a bit and start blaming the mentally ill first off. we can take it |
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Ha. Mental illness is probably behind it, even with motive. |
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Man arrested was a Libyan. |
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a mental libyan? *crosses fingers* |
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ffs, reply to clifford glitchley |
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Weed causes psychosis Just saying... |
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i'll be on the lookout for libyan stoners |
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Hehe |
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