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Neoliberalism’s fragmentary and atomising tendencies have gone too far. In response, some right-wingers have turned against the market. At the same time, there’s a (marginal) tendency on the left turning against cultural liberalism. Are we witnessing a major political realignment underway? What is the substance of these "culturally conservative" critiques, and do they offer anything new, beyond what people like Christopher Lasch advanced decades ago? |
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Will give it a listen when I get back to my grandmother house |
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ah yes the young new rightwing intellectual charles maurras |
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that is one Captain Haddock motherfucker. |
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you don't know maurras?? he's pretty much the father of european fascism, and the intellectual force behind those annoying "traditional western architecture" twitter accounts |
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You can tell he didn't share his toys as a child |
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Every time I blink another one of these guys crawls out of the woodwork! I'll have to read up on him. But I thought Mazzini was the seminal fascist figure, at least in terms of the influence of nationalism / unificationism. I was reading in Pankaj Mishra about how he influenced Savarkar and Hindutva. |
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I was mufos with one of those traditional architecture guys for a while, it made interesting reading, he was really into race realism when he wasn't promoting tapestries and flying buttresses hypies I suspect he believed toys were sinful |
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by the way did you hear about jean raspail finally croaking last week? wonderful news |
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I thought fascism was a mixture of antisemitism and anti democratic values. But according to that definition Jeremy Corbyn is a fascist, which is preposterous. The media called him an anti-Semitic leader and he wanted to overturn the result of many pro British independence election outcomes. Nothing scary about tradionalist architecture in itself. But the real fascists do scare me too. There was one pro Hitler guy called Johnathan something in the UK. I'm pretty sure he was murdered by the state. He was s big fan of this turd called Evola Look at Trump. They call him a fascist but he is on Israel's side, and he won a democratic vote. And he supports British democracy, which voted for British independence many times in recent years. I'd be happy to vote for a modern Hugh Gaitskell who is anti war but pro Israel. The left can't win in the UK unless they embrace Gaitskell ism. There's literally no other path to victory at the ballot box. |
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lol do u really think only anti semites are fascists or is this a way to hide your racism from yourself |
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The censorship side of a possible dystopian future is oddly coming strongly from the « liberal » left. Orwell and co rightly sensed this was going to be a conservative thing. Also you either agree or your a terrible person. No discussion possible. It’s extremely tiring. I’m a lefty. But would like to keep my personality, and be allowed to debate. That’s somethjng that’s less and less possible because fleetmouse or Juliette a likes will just tell you that you’re a terrible person. Black and white. |
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Whats your definition of fascism mermaidman? George Orwell in politics and the english language said a a lot about the term fascism. Wonder if youve ever read that article. Id you define racist as being against some shit cunt on the internet who expects you to believe he’s some turkish muslim gay guy without offering any proof then Im definitely racist. Like i said before, my great grandfather fought for the british when he was 15 and helped kill Turks at gallipoli. He also went through the hell of dunkirk against the real fascist. If thats racist then im racist. |
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lol and i told you your grandfather got his ass handed to him |
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Hooray for Erdogan, the Islamofascist! |
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fuck erdogan |
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Since no one is going to listen to the podcast I linked or read the attached articles, sure let's discuss fascism. Umberto Eco defined it by russelldust I don't think you're a terrible person, I think you're a regular guy who has got a persecution complex. |
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Lol |
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Im listening now. Think i need the fisherprice version. |
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Bless Erdogan, may he reign for 1000 years |
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and, russelldust, I think you interpret disagreement as condemnation, which is silly! don't do that! Bless Erdogan, may he reign for 1000 years |
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Antisemitism is dumb because it means going against God The universe is a monarchy run by God Im a stupid failure at life because of antisemitism. |
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Ive seen that 14 point thing, it seems quite accurate year |
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I wouldn't call Trump as fascist yet, but he has fascist tendencies I think he has touched on almost everyone of those points at one time or an other., if he loses the popular vote, and electoral college this time round im guessing he wont relinquish power. |
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i don't think you're a terrible person, but i do think with this line of thinking you're getting hoodwinked by dishonest pseudointellectuals who have only the most sinister motives there is no actual censorship coming from the left to be worried about right now, unless you're talking about the teen k-pop stan mobs coming after people who drew bart simpson naked one time (noxious, but ultimately just dumb teens). |
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you just made me think of this |
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Because the UK is a democracy you have to make socialism or whatever youre pushing palatable to the electorate. Labour got hammered at the last election. Tories won 14 million to 10 million votes. If Labour don’t embrace British independence on a Gaitskellite ticket, the benefits of socialist beliefs will be eroded. |
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i'm sorry fleets i can't listen to podcasts it's just basic hygiene |
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Theres actually no such thing as a conservative intellectual. |
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wait anna khachiyan isn't that the insane stalinist lady |
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I think there is probably some smart conservatives, but i always find that intelligence doesn't necessarily corelate to rational or empathetic thought |
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Uk voters aint thick. You’ll never get SinoRussian style communism past them. The French on the other hand, and their history of the French Revolution.... we have edmund burke and brexit hahahah |
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Yeah “the market”, worshipped by people like daniel hannan is the opposite of empathy for others. |
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I hope to god so yeah, we have historically been a cynical and wary nation, I just hope decades of stuff like Ant & Decs Saturday night take away hasnt killed to many brain cells |
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Hehe This podcast is too clever for me |
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She said God is dead, so how do you explain the existence of Israel? In this day and age it should be obvious which God is real. Thousands of years ago prophecies are coming true in this day and age. |
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a millennia of erdogan?! i'm afraid i won't live long enough to see a cyborg erdogan with terminator eyes |
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Hehe |
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Mongy, have you ever seen police academy 2? It’s one of the best comedies ever. |
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if he loses the popular vote, and electoral college this time round im guessing he wont relinquish power. Say he loses the electoral college, which the way things are going is possible even against corpsey old Joe Biden, it's possible he'll test the waters between the election and inauguration day, but if he gets much pushback I think he'll fold. He hates to fight a losing fight, he hates to make an effort if he can't easily spin things his way. |
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Mostly podcasts are awful, this one is above average though even if I often disagree with it, they go out on some limbs and have interesting guests. Is Anna Stalinist? I think mainly she's a notorious Brooklyn troll girl. |
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I think thats generally true, i think the reason why he might push it is because if he looses he will be investigated to the nth degree, well you would hope so |
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i mean i don't know much about her but i know enough to know that she's a bit of a shit and too addicted to controversy not to become a neoreactionary in the next few years if she isn't one already! very sad but when your intellectual influences are zizek and paglia you're pretty much screwed |
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i think trump is still too much of a tv host not to sign off once his show is over tbh |
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i just saw a wonderful tweet |
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what the hell is that tweet underneath, daughter of a mathematician, so that is meant to make her intelligent by proxy? |
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she's got the weirdest fans |
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About half the Anna and Dasha "fans" hate their guts, the other half ain't bolted down so good. on the Red Scare subreddit is an interesting read. Definitely click through and read |
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well i sure have learned a lot about some guy's sister career issues. god these people are middle class as fuck |
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