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offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-11 21:18 [#02603219]
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https://youtu.be/Gqdo57uky4o


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 21:22 [#02603220]
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people have been promising this sort of thing for years
i tried one in about 2010 and it thought i was dead
I think that new interfaces like this vs. good ol QWERTY is
like the 'AI' (read machine learning) vs. Turing Machines
... One is currently muchly overhyped vaporware.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 21:24 [#02603221]
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Would love to write some widgets for it when it comes out
tho, obv


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 21:28 [#02603222]
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the existing ones were pretty rubbish - i don't think they
could even pick up whether you were in predominantly alpha,
beta, ... brainwaves, otherwise shurely someone would have
rinses the market for guided meditation/feedback things...?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 22:56 [#02603242]
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I was watching a vid where its mentioned they reckon you
wouldnt know if you were being controlled you would think
the thought originated from your own brain, that scared me


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:06 [#02603245]
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i think i've seen that one too, that's the essence of
subliminal messages.
I can't honestly believe that they have been found not to
work reliably when I can get a word or phrase in my head by
NOT EVEN GLANCING at a full on broadsheet newspaper page,
like literally just moving from one object to another and
the paper was in between - phrase in head, phrase on page.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:08 [#02603246]
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I do wonder if there's some occult shit going on tbh, by
which i mean fuck knows what, don't even bother trying to
figure it out


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:15 [#02603249]
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satellite encampment


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:21 [#02603252]
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Elon Musk concerns me much more that Bill Gates, Elon is a
sociopath and i think a megalomaniac


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:22 [#02603253]
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whats that a picture of?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:25 [#02603254]
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LAZY_TITLE

interesting vid


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-12 02:19 [#02603261]
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steve mcqueen ~ it sounds like you're talking about EEG
interfaces, some hedset you put on teh your hed. if you want
a quality signal, you're recommended to shave your head and
attach the one-off sticky leads (the ones they use for the
chest version of this, EKG) directly to your bald scalp. at
this point, well, if your brain were a U2 concert, you'd
have the equivalent of someone standing two blocks away from
the arena, trying to figure out what song bono is...
whatever verb bono does. with training -- hours to days --
people can learn to do the equivalent of pressing a few
buttons over this.

one experiment i recall was essentially having someone drive
a remote controlled boat around a kiddie pool, and, while it
succeeded, yes, it took anyone who tried a significant
amount of practice to learn to control their brainwaves to
the point where they could deliberately control the boat.

neuralink is something entirely different -- invasive brain
surgery, performed by robots, designed to directly interface
with a piddling number of neurons. i forget what it was, but
it was something like 256 or 1024 neurons to the bajillions
in the brain. in theory, i guess, you may be able to learn
to control that more exactly, in time, but the "brain
surgery" part means only spinal injury patients would even
be half-uncrazy to try this. but perhaps you could get more
nuanced control.

in my teens, i realized i was queuing hand motions. i was
thinking about patterns of finger movement: do that, that,
and that. then wait for my fingers to catch up. while my
fingers are moving, think about what i want to do next, and
play the patterns of motion in my head... sort of like a
movie, but rather less visual, more feel. i remember raising
my hand at some lecture when i was fifteen, trying to
describe this, and when can we just have a computer read
this, because my hands are too slow, they're holding my
brain back?

and i have long posts to write.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-12 02:30 [#02603262]
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someday... unfortunately, likely past my lifetime... if
humanity doesn't blow itself up... perhaps we'll use
something like this recent development to create
something like the tesla-coil-sparky host/computer interface
bernard briefly uses in westworld to log into the valley and
find ford there (spoilers)

and perhaps the brain-invading robots will scale up to a
more relevant number of neurons, too, but for now it's a
last-ditch effort to network quadriplegics


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-12 02:39 [#02603263]
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or maybe bernard met ford for a hax at the head hole drill
part; can't recall (spoilers)


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-12 02:57 [#02603264]
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invasive brain surgery

heading up the obvious question -- what constitutes
non-invasive brain surgery?
-- i present donald j. trump
supporters


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-12 03:00 [#02603265]
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oh, it's a 25 minute joe rogan video. i hadn't noticed. i
haven't watched it yet. i might


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-12 03:11 [#02603266]
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joe rogan asks musk if he anticipates any cognitive
benefits.

elon musk's brain crashes. he repeatedly starts to formulate
an answer; rejects it. his facial expressions and aborted
sentences provide debug output. well... i guess you could...
it depends on you how you define 'benefit' -- but... for...

and then he reboots and starts regurgitating his sales pitch
again.

so far, though, this seems reasonable. a neural bypass for
spinal injury than it is any sort of ~brain-computer
interface~. also, i want to drop a brick on joe rogan's
little toe


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-12 03:13 [#02603267]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-12 03:18 [#02603268]
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aaaugh god i hate joe rogan. asking about "frequencies"

musk utterly fails to explain that they don't just
"stimulate" the brain, they also read neural response. the
two-way part is important. it's not some mail-order magnet
that just pumps good harmonics in and fixes the shit


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-12 03:25 [#02603269]
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LAZY_TITLE serious 2016 vibes right now


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-12 20:23 [#02603289]
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There are other videos about it on YouTube

Quite disturbing really


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-12 21:55 [#02603291]
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speaking of all things musky


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-12 21:59 [#02603292]
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he's a minky, musky, sly old foxy stoat


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-12 22:04 [#02603294]
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musky sly old foxy stoat!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-12 22:05 [#02603295]
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foxy stoat...on the prowl....


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-12 22:32 [#02603296]
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she's a real sex parakeet


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-12 22:51 [#02603297]
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stoaty


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 02:01 [#02603316]
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sorry, didn't realize i walked into the annals of british
sitcomidry


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 02:03 [#02603317]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 02:07 [#02603318]
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global thermonuclear manners


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 02:12 [#02603319]
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"nice trousers!"


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 02:29 [#02603321]
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"what about the god damn jaffa cakes asswipe!"


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 02:50 [#02603322]
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england seems rough


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 02:57 [#02603323]
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yeah some parts deffo are, the look of the show was sort of
run down squalid little flat


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 03:36 [#02603325]
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why must it be called flat
stop being so british
goddamn it


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-08-26 17:54 [#02605689]
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friday, a promised demo


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-08-26 18:10 [#02605690]
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would you let elon's sewing machine loose on yr hed? maybe
he'll do it on grimes


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-08-29 10:43 [#02605744]
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Should be illegal


 

offline Portnoy on 2020-08-30 12:32 [#02605773]
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I wouldn't let them

I don't mind devices that I put on like a watch the ti can
take off

a permanent link? gtfo


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-09-18 19:06 [#02606116]
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when Elon Musk talks about AI, either Elon Musk hasn't got a
clue what he is talking about, or Elon Musk is attemping
mislead peoplke.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-09-18 19:08 [#02606117]
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Same goes for any of those 'Singularity' folks. This really
should not be a controversial opinion.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-09-19 03:06 [#02606131]
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the house i just moved into is really really old and there's
some small room just before the attic. i'm told it's called
the "sewing room" because that's where they'd sew stuff up
stuff in the 20's. go figure, it gets the best light of
anywhere in the house; figure i'll set up my neurosurgery
robot there


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-09-19 03:07 [#02606132]
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elon musk gets it right eventually, but even if i were a
paraplegic i probably wouldn't sign up for his shit right
now


 


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