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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-07 14:17 [#02602839]
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coffee seems more harmful to me than beer…
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 14:24 [#02602841]
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depends how much beer... it's a slower ride than hard liquor but you can still fuck yrself up. i knew a part-time wrestler (!) who drank about 30-40 cans of stella a night at weekends, the poor fat bastard
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-07 14:49 [#02602843]
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Getting more and more redpilled about caffeine, after detoxing and going back on a number of times I can say with some confidence that the main effects are jittery restlessness and bad mood. Honestly wondering if coffee is one of the hidden drivers of the fucked up ness of Western civilization.
I've compromised on one cup of Japanese sencha a day, because it tastes wonderful and is supposed to be healthy. Not likely to get back on coffee or even black tea.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-06-07 15:05 [#02602846]
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Tony you don't drink coffee, you don't smoke, you don't do drugs !
i love coffee its a substitute for munchies, I don't think its a drug, for obvious reasons..
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 15:08 [#02602847]
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history of coffee
goddam monks needing to pray all night
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 15:23 [#02602849]
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coffee and booze are pretty much the only drugs left as legal in the uk, the law has been draconian since 2016. it's pretty much "if it can get you high it's now illegal" rather than naming drugs one by one. only exception is for poppers, mostly because parliament is too squeamish about bumsex to mention it
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Portnoy
on 2020-06-07 15:37 [#02602850]
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I’m new to coffee, only started about a year ago. Doing 2 cups a day. One in the morning , one in the afternoon. It helps.
Haven’t had any nicotine in... a month ... not sure. Certainly is easier now but still miss it like a dead friend.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-07 15:40 [#02602851]
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is whippets interesting or is it basically poppers
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 16:03 [#02602852]
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they're both only really interesting in combination with other drugs. lsd or mushrooms plus nitrous is awesome. i used to cane it on poppers, synthetic cannabinoids and cheap turbocider when i was living at that hostel, fun but dirty-feeling
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 16:06 [#02602853]
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also, nicotine rules
(rules my life tha is)
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-06-07 16:49 [#02602854]
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I hadn't had coffee for weeks and then the other day I had two cups of instant and I felt like a jittery, borderline panic attack for about 6 hours. Ghastly stuff. I'm strictly PG Tips.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2020-06-07 17:01 [#02602856]
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social media
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-07 17:07 [#02602857]
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I've become what I hate
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-07 17:10 [#02602858]
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I was out cycling last summer and bought a medium starbucks light roast. My mouth went dry and I spent the next few hours vibrating so fast I worried my molecules would slip down through the earth like a star trek transporter accident.
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-07 17:12 [#02602859]
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ha! same story here:
i drink one cup of coffee almost every day which is great, but the absolute maximum for me. yesterday i had the stupid idea of drinking another cup, since its fun to make and i like the taste.
this ended in me scratching my whole body, having problems concentrating and having a milder panic attack in the afternoon.
with beer… i drink 2 bottles on some evenings. when i want crazy i drink 3. when i drink 6 i regret it the other day. i also think im allergic to some beers ingredients. took me a while to find a beer that didnt make me feel bad the day after
so, one coffee in the morning, two beer in the evening is the equilibrium for me body
i smoked a few doobies with some lil tobacco some days ago, when i met in a shack in a garden colony with some irish guys. it was pretty good and i kinda missed the joint after vaping weed only for the last years. it's a different high
i don't smoke tobacco, but putting a small bit in a joint is nice. my joints are 2.5/3 weed 0.5/3 tobacco and look like long lady cigs, aka nuttenstengel
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-07 17:12 [#02602860]
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listening now… thanks bud!
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-07 17:13 [#02602861]
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:D
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 17:23 [#02602862]
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i'm prescribed codeine for legit chronic pain, that's class b in the uk now. makes me so sleepy i need coffee to function on it
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-07 17:35 [#02602864]
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hmm, interesting. im not a scientist, but you might achieve the opposite with this. coffee might interfere with the metabolisation of codeine in your liver. since, caffeine in healthy amounts is generally good for the liver, in your case it might help producing a higher amount of morhpine, since the liver metabolises codeine and makes morphine out of it…
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 17:36 [#02602865]
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anyone get into glue or solvents as a youngster? never went in for that thankfully, proper fucks you up
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-07 17:37 [#02602866]
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but im no doctor. i was just reading about metabolisation in the liver
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-07 17:41 [#02602867]
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oh, i had some friends who took the co2 cans. i never did that after seeing all of them having spams on the ground around me.
i had a glue accident once and i called the toxic emergency. they were very rude, because i called them at 3 in the morning. but i had worked in a lab with glue and closed windows and i had a horrible trip. i felt a hand was growing out of my head. so i read the description on the glue and panicked, lol
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 17:41 [#02602868]
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i've had oral morphine in hospital and it's nice but nothing to lose yr shit over, i'm guessing it's all about route of administration for the opiates. i know smoking / chasing smaxk is supposed to be even more addictive than intravenous
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 17:43 [#02602869]
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*smack
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-07 17:45 [#02602870]
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there is this sad documentary about russian kids sniffing glue
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 17:48 [#02602871]
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yeah it's more common in third world and ex-soviet countries i think. drugs of poverty :/
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-07 17:48 [#02602872]
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i bet you know what you're doing, but i thought that coffee might make you more tired in that case
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 17:56 [#02602873]
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not sure how coffee affects metabolism of it, just the anecdotal evidence that i usually fall asleep again in the morning if i haven't had a couple of coffees to balance it out
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-06-07 19:10 [#02602875]
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my relatives in egypt run a glue factory.. i seem to remember i read an article about kids sniffing glue there, and consequentially thought it was a way to traffic drugs legally, but after the winds of arab revolution passed such kind of issues got covered less on twitter so i kinda lost touch (with the family as well)
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-06-07 19:12 [#02602876]
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if that makes you a better person before your own eyes..
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-07 19:45 [#02602877]
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caffeine has good synergy with paracetamol. over here we've got something called "lamaline", that's 300 mg paracetamol, 10 mg opium, 30 mg caffeine, good stuff.
coffee makes me nauseous so i don't have it. shame because it tastes good but i'm ethically opposed to uppers anyway, sinister productivity medicine.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 19:57 [#02602878]
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hah! i'm a stoney downers type myself at heart. there was a proprietary blend of uppers called "ching" here, going for the cocaine market but it was cheap and i was putting any old shit into my body at the time... sent me properly paranoid-crazy, even more than usual. i was staring out of the peephole in my flat convinced that invisible people were bringing me more drugs but that it was drugs from another dimension, lol
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-07 23:04 [#02602882]
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"drugs from another dimension"
sounds like an album title to me
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mermaidman
on 2020-06-07 23:25 [#02602883]
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i don't understand why does coffee make you guys feel bad are you all drinking super strong coffee if so why
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-07 23:28 [#02602885]
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i'd be up for interdimensional drugs, as long as i'm not taking something smuggled inside interdimensional jacket and houdini's interdimensional bums
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-08 00:00 [#02602888]
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that sounds intense belb. did you get those delusions only because of the drug, or are you genetically predisposed?
i'm very sensitive to drugs, but i don't phantasie out paranoid delusions. i have a small tendency, though… thinking a bit too much about my post man than is healthy for me, these days. i had a little discussion with him and found my package thrown somewhere else than in my postbox afterwards. i think he's after me now. i might need to move out, if i ever want to receive a package again…
i'm majorly a hypochondriac, phantasizing about horrible illnesses
i found a fucking tick on my back a week ago, which is something that will bother me for at least another 4-5 weeks… if i don't die before that
i have some anxieties coming from my early teenage years, mixed with being highly sensitive and being a bubble boy until i moved to berlin when i was 22. death and dying were always a big topic. having two experiences with people dying in front of me actually helped me somehow
im definitely a downer type @_@
on the other side: the first time i took speed i felt much less panicky and more focused and calm inside. but that might change if i would do that every week
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-08 00:17 [#02602891]
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interdimensional drugs
more succinct but lacks the same gravitas
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-08 00:17 [#02602892]
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drugs
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-08 00:47 [#02602893]
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it was this that i was taking a lot of, mostly filler and an unnamed numbing agent but about 40% 3-fluorophenmetrazine and two other, lesser chemicals that gave it a slightly more euphoric feeling (2-aminoindane and n-methyl-2-aminoindane). it had a suspiciously later-added sticker with all this on. fuck knows if the contents were actually 3-fpm, 2-ai and nm-2-ai
i was also on mdai (like less speedy, more tearful ecstasy) and 6-apb ("pink panthers", another one a bit like e) when i thought drugs were being magicked to me. and several synthetic cannabinoids. and etizolam. and whiskey, lots of it. to say i was not in my right mind wouldn't do it justice
i already had a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenic when i was doing all this (2015-16 i think although i'm a bit blurry on dates) but i had replaced antipsychotics with, um, all of the above
1p-lsd saved me though. granted i had detoxed in hospital so i was physically over withdrawals but it took the (legal prodrug for) acid for me to actually decide to cut it all out. haven't craved anything since, bar a couple of spliffs to "test" myself. i can live without, no probs
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-08 01:02 [#02602895]
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oh and i think there was some ethylphenidate in there too (for those ticking off a list of belbdrugs)
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-08 01:49 [#02602903]
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i'm in love with the idea of noneuclidian drugs now
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-08 01:50 [#02602904]
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i try to stick with isometric drugs
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-08 02:11 [#02602907]
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square!
(b-dum tschhhh)
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-08 02:26 [#02602908]
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isometic is not square. is perpendicular, but moreso
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-08 02:50 [#02602909]
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yeah i know, i've done isometric projection n stuff at school but wiki sez:
The term isometric comes from the Greek for "having equal measurement".
...and i couldn't resist the pun
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-08 02:55 [#02602910]
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i always figured 5x5, it's all good, you know -- it's more than square. it's hyperdimensional
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2020-06-08 05:02 [#02602913]
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interdimensional drugs = salvia, dmt
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-08 10:42 [#02602916]
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wow, the linked page is something. all those "legal" highs, it's scary
they used the wasted logo: LAZY_TITLE
from the berlin wasted breakcore parties i always went to: LAZY_TITLE
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-08 13:05 [#02602922]
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i hope you get the medication and help that works for your paranoid schizophrenia these days, which seems to be the case from what i read in your messages
i also read that only half of the people who get diagnosed actually get medicated
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-08 13:33 [#02602923]
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yeah i'm doing alright now thanks, the only persistent symptom is sporadic voice-hearing, none of the, ahem, "unusual beliefs" (that's how it's medicalized in the system here). i'm grateful for the meds now, though i still think psychiatry is a pseudo-scientific guessing game really. was reading up on the rosemhan experiment so i could needle the doctors with it in my next ward round, i'm kinda sick of being warehoused. and while i accept i needed treatment it's not exactly been a perfect fit
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