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offline DADONCK from here on 2020-04-28 20:41 [#02600845]
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just found this free and handy waveslicer. the 32bit
version works fine with wine on a mac

https://blog.wavosaur.com/slice-me-tender-chop-your-breakbe
ats/

pretty neat


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2020-05-03 18:34 [#02601084]
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LAZY_LINK, you heathen!

Is this to Recycle what Audacity is to CoolEdit?


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-03 18:52 [#02601085]
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meybe, i also use audacity a lot :P


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-03 19:15 [#02601086]
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i think it even has a few more trix under the shelf than
recycle and its free


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-05-03 19:54 [#02601087]
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much as i inwardly harrumph at randomized break-chopping i
can see how it might generate ideas if you were stuck on a
track. i think when it comes right down to it though,
there's no substitute for patient human nudging to give
tracks The Funk

audacity is ok if a bit clunky, wavelab is my editor of
choice. what's cooledit got to recommend it?


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-05-03 19:57 [#02601088]
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i should say i've been out of the game a while, the last
wavelab version i used was v6 and they're up to 10 now


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-03 20:26 [#02601089]
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i chopped me some gloria estefan, russian wave disco and
some of my own beats and poured them into my sample module
and had lots of fun. it doesnt have to be random, though

cooledit is now is now adobe audition…

do u use wavelab elements?


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-05-03 20:43 [#02601090]
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the suite was separated into wavelab and wavelab lite when i
was making tracks (using full version) but elements looks
like it's got pretty much all the functions there i use.
i've got a cracked copy of v6 full version ready to go but
i'm debating saving up for the latest version of elements


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-03 21:30 [#02601092]
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unfortunately, the elements version has no batch processing
features, which audacity actually has


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 01:38 [#02601097]
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vaguely related, i once used audacity's "find beats"
function then "export markers" or something and i got out a
CSV (or something) of all the beats, then i fed that into a
ruby script that generated ASS subtitles so it spammed text
everywhere to the music


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 01:49 [#02601098]
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what we need is AI-driven break-chopping


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-04 11:21 [#02601108]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-04 11:27 [#02601109]
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i think its not ai chopping, but ai beat making with your
chops. what i find more interesting is concatenative
synthesis or pix2pix for sound



 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-04 11:28 [#02601110]
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shit like this with beats
LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 15:19 [#02601120]
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but can it sing, or just talk?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 15:24 [#02601121]
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$149 and a name that's an intentionally mis-spelled word. a
~1min youtube video going all "this is how you ____"

this is startupsy. this is how you turn a knob

no, what i was proposing was pairing machine learning with
recycle for slightly less brain-dead autochop, thanks


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 15:31 [#02601122]
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this is eyesy. this is how you put milkdrop in a
fancy box for $300


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 15:33 [#02601123]
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hurry now before the price goes up to $400+


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-04 17:10 [#02601124]
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well, that shows that it might not be a good idea in the
first place, innit?


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-04 17:12 [#02601125]
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yup, thats pretty fancy



 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-04 17:14 [#02601126]
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well, depends on what dataset you feed it with, bro


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 17:21 [#02601127]
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late 90's we're all e-whatever
early 00's we've moved on to i-whatever
now we're into things that end all cute-sy
and, i have to say, it makes me want to hit someone with a
brick much more than the previous rounds

the other half to the current naming trend is deliberately
mis-spelling one-syllable words, like "lyft." it's like the
people that name their kids "megyn" instead of "megan,"
which make me want multiple bricks


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 17:23 [#02601128]
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also let's not forget tortured portmanteaus that could only
emerge from a room full of frustrated millionaires at 3am,
i.e. quibi ("quick bites")


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 17:25 [#02601129]
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well, depends on what dataset you feed it with, bro

was actually my thot with my recycle idea: you'd need people
who know how to properly slice a beat, and have them slice
dozens of beats to generate datasets on how a proper human
decides where to slice


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 17:25 [#02601130]
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but, i suspect it can't sing. singing is such a different
model than text to speech


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 17:27 [#02601131]
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wavosaur is a perfectly solid name, which leads me to
suspect the guy behind it is at least thirty years old


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-04 18:02 [#02601135]
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lol, i think he is more like 62,5


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-04 18:06 [#02601136]
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i got me recyLE and will have a look at it. i know the
history, i remember rich talking about it in the first
interview i ever read of him. my stuff will sound noughtie
as fuck, which is the trend and im trendy and cool like pc
music


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 18:14 [#02601137]
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i read that interview too

that's trendy now? if so i'm set

in the living room, i'm using cubase sx 3.1.1 on winxp
(airgapped) with all my noughtie plugins. i also have the
demo unit i built for my failed kickstarter; maybe i'd be
less irritated about eyesy roping in $300k if i'd have
gotten a mere $5k, but i guess my name was already too old;
came up with it in like 2003

in the bedroom, milkytracker, but i'm eyeing renoise because
the demo seemed to work alright on linux


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2020-05-04 18:22 [#02601140]
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im actually interested in using this differently. like using
pix2pix for sound or speech and throwing a beat though this
and seeing what comes out. much more interesting for me than
trying to build the ultimate music machine or something

what ai could actually do though it recognising the layers
of music and reusing the instruments it finds. would be
cool, too

also this, which i don't fully understand yet but actually
find interesting
LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 18:37 [#02601141]
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yes, we should be clear, there are different use cases for
AI

1) i don't want AI to write for me, i just want it to act
like a personal AIsisstant

i could explain this task to a human with a vague clue and
they'd do a fine job but it is only mildly-skilled labor and
will not particularly effect the artistic character of the
results, e.g. chopping up a break into samples

2) i want AI to write for me

maybe, with enough AI, i can mash the keyboard and it'll
sound like vangelis, then gmail can write an email for me to
promote the results to other bots

3) using AI in a manner not recommended

proper fun; software circuit bending. rarely leads to much
usable, but still have some things i mean to get around to


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 18:44 [#02601143]
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re: 1) i do still think of adam "mca" yauch

Yauch's musical direction while recalling the time he
went to MCA's Brooklyn apartment only to see it strung
wall-to-wall with reel-to-reel tape in order to cut up a Led
Zeppelin beat.


and if he'd had an assistant do it he wouldn't have spent
ages hearing all the bits and thus maybe the ideas wouldn't
have come

or coil performing magick rites before deciding where to
slice tape

"being for the benefit of mr. kite," they sliced up old
carousel music at varying numbers of bars, threw all the
bits into a box, then picked out a few randomly to tape
together. there, however, i do suspect an assistant did it,
as much as macca liked playing about with tape (link to 80s
advert i can't find on youtube)


 


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