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DADONCK
from here on 2020-04-28 20:41 [#02600845]
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just found this free and handy waveslicer. the 32bit version works fine with wine on a mac
https://blog.wavosaur.com/slice-me-tender-chop-your-breakbe ats/
pretty neat
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2020-05-03 18:34 [#02601084]
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LAZY_LINK, you heathen!
Is this to Recycle what Audacity is to CoolEdit?
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-03 18:52 [#02601085]
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meybe, i also use audacity a lot :P
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-03 19:15 [#02601086]
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i think it even has a few more trix under the shelf than recycle and its free
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-05-03 19:54 [#02601087]
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much as i inwardly harrumph at randomized break-chopping i can see how it might generate ideas if you were stuck on a track. i think when it comes right down to it though, there's no substitute for patient human nudging to give tracks The Funk
audacity is ok if a bit clunky, wavelab is my editor of choice. what's cooledit got to recommend it?
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-05-03 19:57 [#02601088]
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i should say i've been out of the game a while, the last wavelab version i used was v6 and they're up to 10 now
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-03 20:26 [#02601089]
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i chopped me some gloria estefan, russian wave disco and some of my own beats and poured them into my sample module and had lots of fun. it doesnt have to be random, though
cooledit is now is now adobe audition…
do u use wavelab elements?
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-05-03 20:43 [#02601090]
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the suite was separated into wavelab and wavelab lite when i was making tracks (using full version) but elements looks like it's got pretty much all the functions there i use. i've got a cracked copy of v6 full version ready to go but i'm debating saving up for the latest version of elements
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-03 21:30 [#02601092]
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unfortunately, the elements version has no batch processing features, which audacity actually has
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 01:38 [#02601097]
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vaguely related, i once used audacity's "find beats" function then "export markers" or something and i got out a CSV (or something) of all the beats, then i fed that into a ruby script that generated ASS subtitles so it spammed text everywhere to the music
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 01:49 [#02601098]
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what we need is AI-driven break-chopping
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-04 11:21 [#02601108]
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LAZY_TITLE
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-04 11:27 [#02601109]
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i think its not ai chopping, but ai beat making with your chops. what i find more interesting is concatenative synthesis or pix2pix for sound
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-04 11:28 [#02601110]
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shit like this with beats LAZY_TITLE
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 15:19 [#02601120]
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but can it sing, or just talk?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 15:24 [#02601121]
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$149 and a name that's an intentionally mis-spelled word. a ~1min youtube video going all "this is how you ____"
this is startupsy. this is how you turn a knob
no, what i was proposing was pairing machine learning with recycle for slightly less brain-dead autochop, thanks
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 15:31 [#02601122]
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this is eyesy. this is how you put milkdrop in a fancy box for $300
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 15:33 [#02601123]
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hurry now before the price goes up to $400+
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-04 17:10 [#02601124]
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well, that shows that it might not be a good idea in the first place, innit?
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-04 17:12 [#02601125]
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yup, thats pretty fancy
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-04 17:14 [#02601126]
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well, depends on what dataset you feed it with, bro
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 17:21 [#02601127]
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late 90's we're all e-whatever early 00's we've moved on to i-whatever now we're into things that end all cute-sy and, i have to say, it makes me want to hit someone with a brick much more than the previous rounds
the other half to the current naming trend is deliberately mis-spelling one-syllable words, like "lyft." it's like the people that name their kids "megyn" instead of "megan," which make me want multiple bricks
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 17:23 [#02601128]
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also let's not forget tortured portmanteaus that could only emerge from a room full of frustrated millionaires at 3am, i.e. quibi ("quick bites")
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 17:25 [#02601129]
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well, depends on what dataset you feed it with, bro
was actually my thot with my recycle idea: you'd need people who know how to properly slice a beat, and have them slice dozens of beats to generate datasets on how a proper human decides where to slice
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 17:25 [#02601130]
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but, i suspect it can't sing. singing is such a different model than text to speech
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 17:27 [#02601131]
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wavosaur is a perfectly solid name, which leads me to suspect the guy behind it is at least thirty years old
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-04 18:02 [#02601135]
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lol, i think he is more like 62,5
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-04 18:06 [#02601136]
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i got me recyLE and will have a look at it. i know the history, i remember rich talking about it in the first interview i ever read of him. my stuff will sound noughtie as fuck, which is the trend and im trendy and cool like pc music
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 18:14 [#02601137]
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i read that interview too
that's trendy now? if so i'm set
in the living room, i'm using cubase sx 3.1.1 on winxp (airgapped) with all my noughtie plugins. i also have the demo unit i built for my failed kickstarter; maybe i'd be less irritated about eyesy roping in $300k if i'd have gotten a mere $5k, but i guess my name was already too old; came up with it in like 2003
in the bedroom, milkytracker, but i'm eyeing renoise because the demo seemed to work alright on linux
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-05-04 18:22 [#02601140]
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im actually interested in using this differently. like using pix2pix for sound or speech and throwing a beat though this and seeing what comes out. much more interesting for me than trying to build the ultimate music machine or something
what ai could actually do though it recognising the layers of music and reusing the instruments it finds. would be cool, too
also this, which i don't fully understand yet but actually find interesting
LAZY_TITLE
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 18:37 [#02601141]
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yes, we should be clear, there are different use cases for AI
1) i don't want AI to write for me, i just want it to act like a personal AIsisstant
i could explain this task to a human with a vague clue and they'd do a fine job but it is only mildly-skilled labor and will not particularly effect the artistic character of the results, e.g. chopping up a break into samples
2) i want AI to write for me
maybe, with enough AI, i can mash the keyboard and it'll sound like vangelis, then gmail can write an email for me to promote the results to other bots
3) using AI in a manner not recommended
proper fun; software circuit bending. rarely leads to much usable, but still have some things i mean to get around to
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-05-04 18:44 [#02601143]
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re: 1) i do still think of adam "mca" yauch
Yauch's musical direction while recalling the time he went to MCA's Brooklyn apartment only to see it strung wall-to-wall with reel-to-reel tape in order to cut up a Led Zeppelin beat.
and if he'd had an assistant do it he wouldn't have spent ages hearing all the bits and thus maybe the ideas wouldn't have come
or coil performing magick rites before deciding where to slice tape
"being for the benefit of mr. kite," they sliced up old carousel music at varying numbers of bars, threw all the bits into a box, then picked out a few randomly to tape together. there, however, i do suspect an assistant did it, as much as macca liked playing about with tape (link to 80s advert i can't find on youtube)
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