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welt
on 2020-04-05 19:10 [#02598975]
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Would you rather (a) be innocent and get torturted to death in a prison-camp or (b) be the torturer who tortures the innocent person?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-04-05 19:13 [#02598977]
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depeing on who i am? the tortured
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-04-05 19:40 [#02598983]
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well, the right answer is (a), obvs
are we assuming the role of torturer is taken on voluntarily though? if not, then having that as yr job would be "as bad" as being tortured; at least if you pick (a) you don't lose yr humanity. imagine going home to dinner with the family after a day's screaming and mutilation
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-04-05 19:47 [#02598985]
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i think most people would be all "oh, of course i'll pick (a)" but as they're screaming and gradually getting tortured to death i'm sure amongst the screamed dfjgkdfg would be an honest question: "IS IT TOO LATE TO CHANGE TO (B)?"
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-04-05 20:29 [#02598991]
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2020-04-05 20:43 [#02598992]
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(b), there are no innocent people
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-04-05 20:56 [#02598994]
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(c) stand up, flip desk over, walk out of ethics class, march straight to the department hed, demand to switch majors
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-04-05 21:15 [#02598995]
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i agree, wont be able to exercise any torture though
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-04-05 21:44 [#02598996]
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are impossible-to-answer philosophy questions a form of torture?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2020-04-05 21:45 [#02598997]
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we all got to go sometime, and if someone is being tortured then it must be their karma, and I am just a cog in their wheel
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welt
on 2020-04-06 07:33 [#02599060]
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So you think before Socrates went on trial and was sentenced to death he should have just left Athens and have stopped philosophizing in public - as many Athenians suggested to him?
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RussellDust
on 2020-04-06 08:31 [#02599061]
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I know it’s not an option, but I would rather torture myself to death. I don’t have to torture an « innocent » person, and don’t have to let an « innocent » person go through torturing me to death.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-04-06 13:42 [#02599070]
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is it torture to make another human torture another human? why do you not help the fish? because you are a fish too
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-04-06 14:44 [#02599076]
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The truly ethical answer is to simply say "not on my watch" and shoot the prison camp guards.
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welt
on 2020-04-06 15:10 [#02599077]
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Ethical, and manly, too. A perfect blend.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2020-04-06 16:09 [#02599078]
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I like the character in Iain Bank's amazing novel Transition where the torturer character, through some rift in time and space, ends up anticipating himself (*spoiler*) torturing himself.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-04-06 17:49 [#02599094]
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we ultimately do
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