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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-02-20 21:07 [#02595525]
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been watching star trek voyager on this channel pretty good, janeway is pretty hot seven of nine is clearly there to sex up everything i watched an ep two days ago about the hologram doctor teaching the cyborg seven to go on dates and stuff, it brings back memories of reading ceefax and teletext, seven of nine was a hot topic back in the day, pissed people off that they had sex as a topic rather than sci fi stuff.
mutant x is on after voyager, it's a really corny program about American "hot" people with super powers.
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RussellDust
on 2020-02-20 21:26 [#02595527]
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It’s often criticised but I love it.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-02-20 21:28 [#02595528]
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voyager? i had the first 2 series on my pc years ago, tom parris is a cunt character, really shit and boring, and neelix is a fucking faggot.
janeway, chakotay, kim, the doctor, seven, are all ok in my book. hehe
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RussellDust
on 2020-02-20 21:28 [#02595529]
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Total cosy.
Lying in bed I often imagine myself on a ship far away from my destination. Usually I’m alone with my dog, but I like the idea of that on a big ship as well. Captain Janeway is our collective mother.
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RussellDust
on 2020-02-20 21:31 [#02595530]
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I don’t remember the first guy you mention. I guess I didn’t see the whole series. Why the beef with Neelix? It’s nit the first time I see you slag him off.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-02-20 21:32 [#02595531]
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if you could space travel where would you want to go?
have you seen interstellar? thought it was a boring film overall. mainly it's over the emotion of losing a loved one, which is alright i guess. but in a scifi film was a bit over the top. what i really enjoyed in that film was the different planets that they showed. the waves on the one planet and the fact you could walk on the sea was quite beautiful.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-02-20 21:34 [#02595533]
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hehe neelix, i dont know, dont like his alien design or the fact that he bagged the doctor's assistant
tom parris is like the main character in the pilot episode i think they slowly wrote him out of it because they knew he was boring
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-02-20 21:46 [#02595534]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Paris
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2020-02-21 02:03 [#02595550]
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They should have made him LGBTQ+
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-02-21 02:10 [#02595551]
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i like the episode where tuvac repeatedly murders neelix on the holodeck
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-02-21 02:10 [#02595552]
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kess is too young for neelix and it's completely creepy
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-02-21 02:25 [#02595553]
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That's the tea, sis!
At least he was Race Mixing. And you just know B'Elanna Torres was pegging that lily white ass. 🤣
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-02-21 02:28 [#02595554]
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I remember an episode when he kissed her on the mouth and I was like JEEeeeeEEEeEEEeEeeeeEEEEeeeEEEesus
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-02-21 02:33 [#02595555]
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the only really tolerable Voyager episodes are the ones with Borgs and / or Species 666, the Giger looking guys
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-02-21 02:56 [#02595556]
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there's coffee in that thar nebula!
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2020-02-21 03:03 [#02595557]
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Does anyone else think Chakotay was actually 2-spirit? I believe the show creators were hinting at this with Chakotay's role as both Maquis and Federation
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-02-21 03:23 [#02595558]
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2-spirit? like, gin and tonic? or wat
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-02-21 03:29 [#02595559]
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That's the tea, sis! I think of Chakotay as Voyager's own Buck Angel.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-02-21 09:10 [#02595565]
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those 3 semi parallel star trek shows still beat the crap out of other sci fi shows. while they still remain somewhat limited to the old fashioned "anything goes within an episode, but in the end nobody dies or really alters" (in voyager they actually pleasently do) but the suspense element is not as dominant as in todays shows, it is a show of their time. It seems outdated but, it is still a show concept that can ask any question, reflect or pick up any short story. You have the benefit of a world and charaters you think to know and wonder how they react to the different obstacles and may even surprise you and your own thinking.
But for me the major factor is this: There is still something about the dedication to this show unmatched by others. they spent a lot of work and budget on the detailed sets,
and since this is a major flaw in most other shows i repeat it. real built sets, with actual functionality! Lets compare this with for example killjoys. while a series like killjoys, (i hated the first episode) kind of managed to grab me with the characters personal interaction, unfolding story, their sets (of season 1 at least) are completely boring blank bureaus, empty spaceships, empty warehouses and 1:1 20th century industrial sites and seeming to consist of 80% stuttering close-ups of perfectly shaved model faces. for a (rare) show with interstellar travel this is absolutely disappointing. i want to see some other places, other ways to live, think, look, make use of technology etc. TNG, Voyager and DS9 are still ahead of the game in all accounts... 20-30 years later...
now, im waiting for a real game breaker franchise, a voyage through a galaxy with worlds as rich as avatars planet, life as diverse as it can have any shape or exist in any environment. put in any kind of genetically or thechnologically altered humans and human factions as in alastair reynold´s space operas. show characters as crazy as in farscape.
blow me away. sadly financiers seem to beleive its not worth putting the budget or
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-02-21 09:11 [#02595566]
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...effort in :(
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-02-21 09:19 [#02595567]
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on a side note: their ongoing success is not surprising, considering who did the set design right?
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-02-21 09:53 [#02595569]
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wait production design that was
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-02-21 09:55 [#02595570]
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Well said man
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-02-21 14:25 [#02595590]
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:)
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-02-26 19:01 [#02595850]
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bang in to tea time Voyager on Horror Channil it has the most luxururious of all the Star Trek themes
>> if you could space travel where would you want to go? I would have a look at Tabby's Star and then go up on the roof to fix some tiles
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-02-26 19:36 [#02595851]
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good question. if we're talking q-like power to turn up anywhere i like, i'd see what's poppin at centre of the galaxy with the supermassive black hole, then visit a few planets in the habitable zone
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-02-26 21:39 [#02595860]
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Voyager is pretty good but has quite a few unforgettable characters, or well less charismatic and interesting than TNG.
going to watch DS9 from start soon
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-02-28 08:22 [#02595907]
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DS9 great. when it initially came out it wasnt my thing. how could a static environment be fun in an adventurous star trek universe. the ferengi put me off aswell and i heard the show would be a lot about politics and economics, which it actually wasnt any more than any other star trek show.
so after finishing a rewatch of TNG 4 years ago i thought id give it another shot. what can i say, the missus and i loved every part of it.
opening titles were sung.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-02-28 12:42 [#02595912]
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On DS9, unlike any other Trek series except TOS, a majority of the lead actors had terrific stage presence and character. Avery Brooks, Nana Visitor, Rene Auberjonois, Armin Shimerman, the guys who played the Cardassians, all of these guys commanded your attention. It was always a treat when Gul Dukat or Garak turned up in an episode.
Most of the acting on TNG except for Patrick Stewart was like watching a balloon deflate. On Voyager the acting is between solidly awful and physically painful. It makes a difference even on pew pew space laser shows.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-02-28 13:45 [#02595914]
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DS9 seemed to be more focused on the characters and their backstories in general. bajur/cardassia conflict helped to tell some deeper stories too.
didnt notice a lot of difference in the acting, but german dubbing might have evened it a bit. and yeah garak & dukat were spot on recurring characters. i couldnt have imagined how much id love odo & quark by the end of the show.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-02-28 13:59 [#02595917]
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man i need to grab these shows from soulseek or torrent or on dvd, bet the dvds are cheap nowadays second hand i went through buffy the vampire slayer on dvd a few years ago
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-02-28 14:24 [#02595919]
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Do you have Netflix? All of the Trek series are on Netflix in Canada. Dunno about the UK. It's a cheap way to get your Trek fix without cluttering up your home with disks.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-02-28 15:08 [#02595920]
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got amazon slime or amazon prime and a fire stick, no netflix though
ill just download it for free and chuck it on my ipad
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-02-28 15:19 [#02595921]
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yeah that's exactly right, my brother wasn't initially keen on it when it first came out, he watched it from start to finish a few years back and he said he might even prefer it to TNG now.
My main bone of contention is what you said, how can it be as interesting as traditional trek if it takes place mainly in one static location, the whole idea of trek is to go to new places and eras and explore the galaxy. However im a bit older now and im sure i'll really like it.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-02-28 15:19 [#02595922]
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yeah they are on there
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big
from lsg on 2020-02-28 17:22 [#02595933]
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i'm not a voyager fan
apparently it indeed has a lot to do with reasons of unwokeness, or just stupidity
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-02-28 18:22 [#02595951]
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yes, you will, be glad theres undiscovered star trek universe for you ahead :)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-02-28 18:37 [#02595953]
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yeah I deliberately held off so I had something good to watch in my dotage!
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-02-28 18:38 [#02595954]
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the episode where they devolve to lizards have babies is the worst episode of trek ive ever seen, even worse than the clip show when Riker is in a coma they made when they had a writers guild strike
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-03-11 20:15 [#02596890]
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watching the doctor sing for an alien race They never heard music before
Pretty good ep
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