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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-11-11 09:01 [#02588877]
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https://www.residentadvisor.net/news/44688
Dunno who she is
Some russian female techno producer in trouble for having a black haircut ffs
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 09:04 [#02588878]
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we live in strange times, dreads definitely aren't exclusive to certain cultures, people in the stone age almost certainly had dreads, whole things is a bloody waste of time isn't it
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 09:10 [#02588879]
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I hate the "learn from this experience" its cretinous and patronising, id tell these people to sod off
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-11-11 09:12 [#02588880]
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Some of these people are just plain dumb
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 09:16 [#02588881]
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I think what it really comes down to is that they don't actually really care, they just want to get off on feeling superior and correcting peoples perceived mistakes, they are professional shit stirrers, there are a trillion other things of more importance to nit pick over than how someone chooses to wear her hair, you would think she was doing a black and white minstrel show the way they are going on about it,
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-11-11 09:19 [#02588882]
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That's exactly what I'm trying to express
The mob is so dangerous
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 09:20 [#02588883]
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all this cultural appropriation lark seems like a very slippery slope to me, is there any such thing as one hermetically sealed, homogenised culture anyway, things seem more complex than they are portraying, we all know who was big on cultural purity don't we
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 09:23 [#02588884]
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yeah I think the a lot of the generation younger than us seem really like insufferable twats, they go for something that is low hanging fruit, you probably wont see them complain about something significant like Turkey ethnically cleansing the kurds or what not as they aren't an easy target
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-11-11 09:28 [#02588885]
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On the other hand I did find Kim Kardashian's fat arse kimono to be pretty shitty and tasteless.
Also they claim black people invented techno, when kraftwerk were doing it 10 years before. I don't really care but it seems ok to emulate kraftwerk but not to emulate the belville 3. Get a life kunts.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-11-11 09:36 [#02588886]
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Historically illiterate kunts the lot of them Russians have been through hell many times and survived
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 09:59 [#02588889]
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yeah I mean I understand when someone does something egregious like wears an indigenous American headdress in a stereotypical way, I can see how that is culturally insensitive, but when you manipulating your own hair I think that doesn't necessarily belong to one culture, if she was wearing cornrows and mimicking an African American in other ways fair enough but you can tell its not meant like that
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 10:01 [#02588890]
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LAZY_TITLE
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 10:05 [#02588891]
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"chicken tikka slice please"
"fuck off you racist!"
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mermaidman
on 2019-11-11 10:26 [#02588892]
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i don't think it's racist to get cornrows as a white person but it's just stupid like white rasta
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 10:41 [#02588893]
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LAZY_TITLE
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2019-11-11 16:56 [#02588912]
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Arabs are literally enslaving black people today but that's too awkward so, oooh y'all not talking 'bout de white lady (she isn't that white) who y'all let appropriate the hair-do that y'all decided today represents, I dunno, y'all historic slavery which is worse than contemporary slavery y'all.
SOMEBODY. DIED. BECAUSE. READING. THIS.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 17:00 [#02588913]
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it all so sodding inconsequential isn't it, its not progressive its authoritarian group think
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-11-11 17:22 [#02588914]
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No one's moaning about the Chinese mines in Africa
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 17:29 [#02588916]
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yeah another new era of colonialism and they are going on about someones hair
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2019-11-11 18:19 [#02588921]
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It is literally, Literally true, that blacks are being enslaved today. But as Eazy-E said, he don't give a fuck about Africa because they don't give a fuck about Compton. Then he died of AIDS. From Africa.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-11-11 18:30 [#02588922]
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The fun thing about Triggered Cadet Gammon Thread on Zilty is it's always about someone using e.g. the forbidden R word, it's never directly about the genocide of the Kurds or Saudi slavery or the coup in Bolivia or Amazon deforestation, or any other serious topic glossed over in passing.
No, it's always about language. buuuuhhhhh someone said bad of white lady duhhhhhhhh
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2019-11-11 18:43 [#02588927]
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I think you're projecting and grasping at your own narrative there, Canadian.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-11-11 19:36 [#02588929]
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The Kurds ain't our business. We ain't the British empire any more. If we stay out they can have a war and settle matters themselves. If we interfere we waste trillions on stupid wars that aren't our business. It's not our religion (ziltyism) but two of the three major abrahamic religions believe the middle East belongs to them. Let them have their stupid wars and let us stay out of it. Trump is doing the right things geopolitically. Thank fuck there's a businessman in charge atm rather than a sneaky lawyer or oil barron.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-11-11 19:46 [#02588930]
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The destruction of the rain forest is an international calamity but what would you do to solve the problem? It's not like we have a world government or international law that's worth anything. Mass condemnation by other states, sanctions, sending in spies and troublemakers to overthrow the governments that are doing a bad job. USA tries this stuff all the time.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2019-11-11 20:05 [#02588931]
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Christians believe in the second coming of Jesus. Muslims in the return of the prophet Mohamed. Jews in the coming of Messiah. That's a huge chunk of the world population that believes in redemption for the world. Climate change is bollocks to them,simply another theory of the world coming to an end. Atheism says no God, so people who are atheist have to create strange concepts for their lack of belief in God. All the main religions believe in some sort of world king, backed by God who will sort out the world's problems, make the barren lands habitable and fruitful etc.
Atheism is a big mistake because the world was created by God. Atheism is a fallacy that leads to other fallacies.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 21:13 [#02588935]
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I agree the west cant get afford to get bogged down in any more middle eastern quagmires morally and economically, the issue with the kurds is that they are allies and America said you deal with all this terrorist blowback we created in the first place and we will have your backs. If they abandon them to Turkish slaughter firstly its a terrible betrayal and secondly its pretty bad if you want to convince others to be allies or have common goals in the future. America has thrown them to the wolves that's the issue, if Trump had stood up to Erdogan and kept peace keeping troops at the border Turkey wouldn't have dared invade syria
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 21:16 [#02588936]
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its Trumps utter ineptitude that has created this situation, they more or less defeated ISIS and what did they get, a stab in the back
LAZY_TITLE
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 21:17 [#02588937]
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this has made the middle east more unstable and will probably lead to more military action for whatever future American administration that has to clean up this mess.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 21:18 [#02588938]
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I know what you mean though Umbro 99% of the time we shouldn't meddle in middle eastern affairs, it makes things much worse
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2019-11-11 22:30 [#02588952]
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Ms. Kravitz should not engage with these people in any kind of debate. There is a strain of identity politics, that seem like mirror image of alt-right.
Certain hairstyles do not belong to any kind of group of minority. If you think only black people are allowed to wear braids, you believe in some kind of essentialism concering race and culture. That is the same thing ethnopluraliats and people from the alt-right, when they are talking about 'white culture'.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 22:52 [#02588961]
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well said, you articulated it better than I could
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-11 22:56 [#02588962]
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they are like Don Quixote jousting at imaginary dragons, seeing adversarial behaviour wherever they look, if everything is judges through the myopic lens of race of course they are going to find something they deem slightly contentious
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2019-11-11 23:02 [#02588965]
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She's obviously a fucking garbage person, but I basically agree with Tony; the bigger issue here is why the fuck was she allowed on these social media sites in the first place? I thought we had sanctions against Russia for hacking our elections. Yet Russians are allowed to use our social media sites to spew their vile rhetoric? She can fuck off back to VK or whatever shithole social network Russians use, but Dorsey, Zuckerberg, et al. need to get these people off our sites so they can't interfere in our democracy anymore.
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mermaidman
on 2019-11-12 11:40 [#02588984]
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this thread reminded me of the american boy band korn. aren't they white boys with rastas why are they allowed to have rastas?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-11-12 22:43 [#02589014]
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wow thats a real interesting article about some kids sending tweets to a russian dj you dont know about
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-11-12 22:43 [#02589015]
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what IS interesting however is that according to wikipedia, nina kraviz was born October 11, 1881
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2019-11-12 22:49 [#02589016]
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imo hyperflake is the worst because he doesn't have the excuse of alcoholism or mental illness he's just a wide-eyed idiot siphoning any old garbage through the vaccuum of his cranial chamber
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-12 23:18 [#02589018]
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I was hoping we were entering a post racial society where these artificial barriers were a thing of the past, I just see it as an argument that brings back racial division
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-11-12 23:26 [#02589020]
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anyway this isn't specifically about race, this is about the constant pedantic nit-picking you see on the internet. If people are really, truly offended by a woman's questionable hairstyle id be amazed, anyway i'll drop it now.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-11-12 23:28 [#02589021]
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a wide-eyed idiot siphoning any old garbage through the vaccuum of his cranial chamber
may I borrow this for my twitter bio
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2019-11-13 01:23 [#02589036]
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The problem with identitypolitics is that everything is beeing viewed through the lens of race and gender. Sure, racism and sexism still exist and need to be outcalled. But this needs to be done in a manner that doesn't reinforce stereorypes about 'white men' or certain cultures, for example that all Muslims or Indians are constantly offended about certain jokes about their religion or culture.
Most people don't give a fuck about their culture or identity anyway. In the end its all about money
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2019-11-13 15:09 [#02589051]
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All online reaction about "the Kurds" is mainly "Trump has let them down". There's no reflection on the fact that Turkey doesn't have to kill them all and let Isis loose, that's somehow "natural". No, the bad thing is Trump. Not high-pitched voice woman-like mini-sultan ErDOGan, no, the orange blimp baby.
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mermaidman
on 2019-11-13 15:17 [#02589052]
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when u say "kurds" you mean pkk, a terrorist organization. not kurds, as kurd is an ethnic group
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2019-11-13 15:21 [#02589053]
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I'd grant you that for all the virtues Kurds supposedly have, nobody's that keen to house them.
Same as the Palestinians.
But then the Muslim ethos is all about pushing their problems onto "the people of the book", rather than deal with their own shit.
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mermaidman
on 2019-11-13 15:29 [#02589054]
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socialist turkey never had a problem with housing kurds as kurds and turks and other ethnicities been living here for so long
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mermaidman
on 2019-11-13 15:30 [#02589055]
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i can't say the same for other ideologies
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2019-11-13 16:18 [#02589057]
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Well, like so many countries, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, it's all gone to shit with the beardy populism. I suppose in "the West" we only ever hear that the Kurds are the hard done by underdogs. I don't know.... We're all being "played", though to what end I don't think anyone really knows.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-11-13 22:59 [#02589067]
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salty ham
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