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offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 20:13 [#02587617]
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good documentary isn't it

was weird to see how much of a pawn Gadhafi was and how
much things are beginning to resemble a William Gibson novel


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 20:16 [#02587618]
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Vladislav Surkov was a guy ive heard of before, his ideas
are probably behind the election of Trump,


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2019-10-15 20:23 [#02587619]
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its the good propaganda


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 20:34 [#02587620]
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seems like the idea is to keep us all in a perpetual state
of confusion


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2019-10-15 21:11 [#02587621]
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trump is perfect for this


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2019-10-15 21:12 [#02587622]
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but i won't give him the credit of being consciously
involved in it




 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-10-15 21:13 [#02587623]
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don't let ampi catch you praising adam curtis, he had a
right cob on about it for a while there


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2019-10-15 21:29 [#02587624]
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i want to have his job. he's forever employed at the bbc, a
good job payed from british taxes

he can let his paranoia go wild and illustrate it by going
through archives of old clips from the bbc library

he then records talking to himself + puts his favourite afx
tracks under it

dreamjob right there


 

offline Tony Danza from Cats! on 2019-10-15 21:29 [#02587625]
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I feel the hypernormalization powerfully these days, the
let's put on a smiley face and act like everything is
business as usual. But with an edge of panic everywhere and
from everyone.


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2019-10-15 21:34 [#02587626]
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you should all watch the net
LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 21:44 [#02587627]
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yeah I mean I think its a slight over simplification of the
issue, but its full of interesting stuff I didn't know about


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 21:44 [#02587628]
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yeah probably because he says Tony Blair was a bit of a shit
with Gadhafi


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 21:45 [#02587629]
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yes I guess that's why I feel tense most days and for no
particular reason, cos everything seems to be accelerating
to something quite bad


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 21:46 [#02587630]
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whats that Dad?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 21:49 [#02587631]
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oh das netz the net!


 

offline Tony Danza from Cats! on 2019-10-15 21:50 [#02587632]
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It's a feeling of powerlessness, isn't it? One of Adam
Curtis's main themes in the last few documentaries is that
the political process has been neutralized, turned into mere
risk management and perception management. How do people
re-democratize and re-energize the political process?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 21:53 [#02587633]
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yeah I think that's it, yeah perception management, after
bail out of 2008 I think lots of people realised how
hopelessly rigged it is


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2019-10-15 21:53 [#02587634]
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i watched it back in 2005, when i was a young media art
student, my son. its was important to me, so i want to share
it here. its mostly in english or subtitled

"Das Netz (English: The Net) is an independent film directed
by Lutz Dammbeck and subtitled The Unabomber, LSD and the
Internet. Das Netz premiered in 2003.

The film explores the ideas and histories of groundbreaking
artists Marshall McLuhan and Nam June Paik, hippie idealists
such as Timothy Leary and Ken Kesey, counterculturalists
such as John Brockman and Stewart Brand, cyberneticists such
as Robert William Taylor and Heinz von Foerster, and
neo-luddite Unabomber Ted Kaczynski."


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 21:57 [#02587635]
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brilliant cheers, going to watch it now, ive read about Ted
Kaczynski, interesting guy!


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2019-10-15 22:00 [#02587636]
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cheers, have fun
ill go sleep now

i spent to whole day doing nothing
tomorrow ill need to work
or stuff goes against the wall
n8


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-15 22:04 [#02587637]
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have a nice rest! cheers!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 00:08 [#02587638]
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that was brilliant really enjoy that, fucking hell the CIA
really did a number on Ted


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 00:09 [#02587639]
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my fave bit was the old german guy who was explaining meta
physics


 

offline Roger Wilco from Island of Cannibal Sodom on 2019-10-16 08:34 [#02587646]
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It is very good, isn't it? Events are now so complex they're
beyond the buffoons in politics, who are there now just to
give an image of *somebody* being in control.

I really got goosebumps when he had Suicide's "Dream Baby,
Dream" playing over footage of the attacks on the Two
Towers, very powerful stuff.

It's unlikely but I'd have liked to have lived to see the
day when we wean ourselves off of oil and all the dogs the
Saudis trained go back and tear them to shreds.


 

offline mohamed on 2019-10-16 09:40 [#02587647]
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Hai venduto il culo per la terra


 

offline mermaidman from ❤ anal bffs 4ever! xoxo on 2019-10-16 10:08 [#02587650]
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i listened to that track dream baby dream it really suits
you


 

offline mermaidman from ❤ anal bffs 4ever! xoxo on 2019-10-16 10:09 [#02587651]
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had goosebumps lol *fart*


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 13:38 [#02587652]
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yeah it is, seems like politics is a thin veneer to gloss
over the fact no one has absolute control, huge tidal like
forces of economics, fundamentalist beliefs and technology
are what drives the world, as someone else was saying,
perception management is what politics really is


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 13:39 [#02587653]
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my arse in none negotiable!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 13:40 [#02587654]
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yeah the 911 thing, all the disaster movies before 2001 it
was like some subconscious collective thought that
manifested itself in popular culture, it was really weird


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2019-10-16 14:24 [#02587655]
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Heinz von Förster is the best! nice, that you mention that
bit



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 14:37 [#02587656]
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yeah really sharpe for his age, really interesting guy


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 14:38 [#02587657]
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is it true that in german von is pronounced more like fon


 

offline Tony Danza from Cats! on 2019-10-16 14:48 [#02587658]
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"The world is impossibly complex and nothing can be achieved
through political leadership" is precisely the wrong message
to take from any of this. What has happened since the late
70s is a deliberate withdrawal of political power in the
expectation that the free market would deliver what people
wanted, while politicians were supposed to merely "manage
risk". Of course this hasn't happened.

Good time to re-watch All Watched Over By Machines of Loving Grace, which is about this
expectation of emergent order coming from simply giving up
the reins. What it's actually delivered us is feuding
aristocratic dynasties - House Trump, House Clinton, House
Saud, House Biden, House Bezos, House Putin, etc.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 14:51 [#02587659]
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yeah I was recommend that by a mate, I will watch it this
week cheers


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 14:53 [#02587660]
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I just cant see how any politician can regain the reins of
power, if they don't comply with the predominant motive of
the age, i.e. profit they are out on their ear quickly

LAZY_TITLE

id like to be wrong


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 14:57 [#02587663]
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sounds like dune


 

offline Tony Danza from Cats! on 2019-10-16 15:18 [#02587670]
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Monbiot has some ideas


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 16:14 [#02587671]
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I like his idea, he has an altruistic outlook, I just worry
that power resides in the hands of people who would never
relinquish that power,


 

offline Roger Wilco from Island of Cannibal Sodom on 2019-10-16 16:35 [#02587672]
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Sorry, when I say "I had goosebumps" I actually mean
that "I had an aching erection thinking about those brave
mujaheddin aboard the air planes"



 

offline RussellDust on 2019-10-16 17:00 [#02587673]
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•*The Rise of Skywalker in cinemas soon*•


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-10-16 17:06 [#02587674]
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whats Roger think of the new star wars films


 

offline mermaidman from ❤ anal bffs 4ever! xoxo on 2019-10-16 17:10 [#02587675]
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i was talking about the gay song not the terrorist attack


 

offline RussellDust on 2019-10-16 17:10 [#02587676]
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If it goes by all the past modern ones he’s going to go
and watch it, enjoy it, then slowly begin to hate it, until
he’s fully convinced, and content, that he hates it.


 

offline RussellDust on 2019-10-16 17:47 [#02587677]
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I think you need to get over Roger


 

offline mermaidman from ❤ anal bffs 4ever! xoxo on 2019-10-16 17:56 [#02587679]
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do u want me to leave your friend alone


 

offline mermaidman from ❤ anal bffs 4ever! xoxo on 2019-10-16 17:57 [#02587680]
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but mohamed doesn’t play with me anymore either what am i
going to do


 

offline RussellDust on 2019-10-16 18:17 [#02587681]
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you can’t bother Wilco all you want, it doesn’t bother
me. What bothers me is your heightened focus on him. And
yeah you used to do it with mohamed. I guess that’s how
you work here. I guess you need a new person to target! (You
did me for a bit, it was infuriating)


 

offline RussellDust on 2019-10-16 18:18 [#02587682]
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You can bother him...


 

offline RussellDust on 2019-10-16 18:21 [#02587683]
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I’d love to see you leech onto someone like Tony danza for
a bit. I wonder if you could get creative. Maybe your
targets aren’t diverse enough. They aren’t, in all
honesty. I’m the only « hippy » you parasited for a
bit.


 


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