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good documentary isn't it was weird to see how much of a pawn Gadhafi was and how much things are beginning to resemble a William Gibson novel |
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Vladislav Surkov was a guy ive heard of before, his ideas are probably behind the election of Trump, |
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its the good propaganda |
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seems like the idea is to keep us all in a perpetual state of confusion |
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trump is perfect for this |
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but i won't give him the credit of being consciously involved in it |
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don't let ampi catch you praising adam curtis, he had a right cob on about it for a while there |
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i want to have his job. he's forever employed at the bbc, a good job payed from british taxes he can let his paranoia go wild and illustrate it by going through archives of old clips from the bbc library he then records talking to himself + puts his favourite afx tracks under it dreamjob right there |
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I feel the hypernormalization powerfully these days, the let's put on a smiley face and act like everything is business as usual. But with an edge of panic everywhere and from everyone. |
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you should all watch the net |
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yeah I mean I think its a slight over simplification of the issue, but its full of interesting stuff I didn't know about |
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yeah probably because he says Tony Blair was a bit of a shit with Gadhafi |
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yes I guess that's why I feel tense most days and for no particular reason, cos everything seems to be accelerating to something quite bad |
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whats that Dad? |
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oh das netz the net! |
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It's a feeling of powerlessness, isn't it? One of Adam Curtis's main themes in the last few documentaries is that the political process has been neutralized, turned into mere risk management and perception management. How do people re-democratize and re-energize the political process? |
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yeah I think that's it, yeah perception management, after bail out of 2008 I think lots of people realised how hopelessly rigged it is |
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i watched it back in 2005, when i was a young media art student, my son. its was important to me, so i want to share it here. its mostly in english or subtitled "Das Netz (English: The Net) is an independent film directed by Lutz Dammbeck and subtitled The Unabomber, LSD and the Internet. Das Netz premiered in 2003. The film explores the ideas and histories of groundbreaking artists Marshall McLuhan and Nam June Paik, hippie idealists such as Timothy Leary and Ken Kesey, counterculturalists such as John Brockman and Stewart Brand, cyberneticists such as Robert William Taylor and Heinz von Foerster, and neo-luddite Unabomber Ted Kaczynski." |
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brilliant cheers, going to watch it now, ive read about Ted Kaczynski, interesting guy! |
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cheers, have fun ill go sleep now i spent to whole day doing nothing tomorrow ill need to work or stuff goes against the wall n8 |
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have a nice rest! cheers! |
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that was brilliant really enjoy that, fucking hell the CIA really did a number on Ted |
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my fave bit was the old german guy who was explaining meta physics |
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It is very good, isn't it? Events are now so complex they're beyond the buffoons in politics, who are there now just to give an image of *somebody* being in control. I really got goosebumps when he had Suicide's "Dream Baby, Dream" playing over footage of the attacks on the Two Towers, very powerful stuff. It's unlikely but I'd have liked to have lived to see the day when we wean ourselves off of oil and all the dogs the Saudis trained go back and tear them to shreds. |
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Hai venduto il culo per la terra |
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i listened to that track dream baby dream it really suits you |
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had goosebumps lol *fart* |
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yeah it is, seems like politics is a thin veneer to gloss over the fact no one has absolute control, huge tidal like forces of economics, fundamentalist beliefs and technology are what drives the world, as someone else was saying, perception management is what politics really is |
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my arse in none negotiable! |
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yeah the 911 thing, all the disaster movies before 2001 it was like some subconscious collective thought that manifested itself in popular culture, it was really weird |
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Heinz von Förster is the best! nice, that you mention that bit |
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yeah really sharpe for his age, really interesting guy |
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is it true that in german von is pronounced more like fon |
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"The world is impossibly complex and nothing can be achieved through political leadership" is precisely the wrong message to take from any of this. What has happened since the late 70s is a deliberate withdrawal of political power in the expectation that the free market would deliver what people wanted, while politicians were supposed to merely "manage risk". Of course this hasn't happened. Good time to re-watch , which is about this expectation of emergent order coming from simply giving up the reins. What it's actually delivered us is feuding aristocratic dynasties - House Trump, House Clinton, House Saud, House Biden, House Bezos, House Putin, etc. |
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yeah I was recommend that by a mate, I will watch it this week cheers |
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I just cant see how any politician can regain the reins of power, if they don't comply with the predominant motive of the age, i.e. profit they are out on their ear quickly id like to be wrong |
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sounds like dune |
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I like his idea, he has an altruistic outlook, I just worry that power resides in the hands of people who would never relinquish that power, |
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Sorry, when I say "I had goosebumps" I actually mean that "I had an aching erection thinking about those brave mujaheddin aboard the air planes" |
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•*The Rise of Skywalker in cinemas soon*• |
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whats Roger think of the new star wars films |
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i was talking about the gay song not the terrorist attack |
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If it goes by all the past modern ones he’s going to go and watch it, enjoy it, then slowly begin to hate it, until he’s fully convinced, and content, that he hates it. |
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I think you need to get over Roger |
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do u want me to leave your friend alone |
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but mohamed doesn’t play with me anymore either what am i going to do |
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you can’t bother Wilco all you want, it doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is your heightened focus on him. And yeah you used to do it with mohamed. I guess that’s how you work here. I guess you need a new person to target! (You did me for a bit, it was infuriating) |
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You can bother him... |
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I’d love to see you leech onto someone like Tony danza for a bit. I wonder if you could get creative. Maybe your targets aren’t diverse enough. They aren’t, in all honesty. I’m the only « hippy » you parasited for a bit. |
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