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welt
on 2019-09-18 08:49 [#02585498]
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I'm currently reading a book on the topic of Masochism by the psychoanalyst Leon Wurmser.
His basic explanation of masochism is: Masochistic people rather have painful relationships than no relationships at all. And: masochistic people have been humiliated and shamed by people (parents) they admire which causes a dillema: either the masochists have to reject those they originally admire and on whom they are dependent (which is like choosing death), or they accept the judgement and see themselves as somebody who deserves humiliation.
What's your take on masochism?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2019-09-18 09:15 [#02585499]
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Masochism is a perfectly reasonable part of the human experience. I'm reading 'the trouble with being born' by E.M. Coiran and he flits between nihilism, masochism and positivity about the human condition quite easily, with each offering valid insight.
I think the problem is that masochism is automatically associated with sexuality in modern times when it can be a facet of your personality without it being related to sex in anyway.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2019-09-18 09:28 [#02585500]
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Ligotti basically says life itself is a masochistic pursuit in 'the conspiracy against the human race'. Life is only framed through the punishment of death, without that life does not exist, and all our decision are in service of that master.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-09-18 21:34 [#02585603]
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honest to goodness, i was sort of thinking about this earlier
about how you have to be a bit of a masochist to keep pushing yourself to do something in order to get good at it, and that a lot of 'high acheivers' are 'masochists' by this definition, and often they can appear sadistic because they are just expecting of other people what they expect of themselves.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-09-18 21:38 [#02585605]
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god that sounds fucking stupid now i've posted it
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-09-18 21:41 [#02585606]
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its true I reckon, some people who are the most accomplished come across as utter bastards because they haven't spent their time thinking about other peoples feelings or much of anything else, usually when they are older they mellow out a bit
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2019-09-18 21:47 [#02585612]
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eracle, i heard
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-09-18 22:33 [#02585624]
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i couldnt imagine a suitable thread, imagine shagging her and her making this noise
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2019-09-18 23:28 [#02585634]
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Haven't met a Texan I didn't like. I hope Beto has fun prying their AR15s from their cold dead hands!!
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2019-09-19 16:28 [#02585688]
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Does she tour, as that’s better than any stand up routine Amy Schumer has come out with?
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