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offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:03 [#00187471]
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What do you ppl think? Experimental is going
comcerial...But i always thought that chris vrenna wasn't
half bad. I heard a few tracks from American Mcgee's Alice,
and they seemed decent, but this Tweaker project sure is
catchy...


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:07 [#00187487]
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experimental is never going commercial. Different aspects of
experimental will. The innovators will never be in the
mainstream


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:09 [#00187491]
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i know what you mean...but this is a very comercial
experimental CD...and it's well accepted in the
mainstream...


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:11 [#00187498]
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this is an artist!?


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:12 [#00187499]
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ah yeah right read ya post now


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:16 [#00187505]
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yeah, it's called tweaker...

i think you can find the oficial site up at tweaker.net...


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:16 [#00187507]
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its only available as an import in the uk, why is that?

i want it but imports are expensive : (


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:18 [#00187511]
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do you even know who chris vrenna is? he's not huge...but
he's done programming for quite a great amount of american
artists...

and yes, the cd "attraction to all things uncertain" is
experimental, and yes, it is mainstream, and yes, i do know
what experimental is...infact, experimental noise, and IDM
are my favorite genres


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:18 [#00187513]
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my brother said a good point.... "it will piss people off to
much to go big..."

we were talking about the band 'the streets', even tho it's
not experimental at all it's just not garage and its not
hiphop, it's just not how people like to hear it.

and i know that my sister doesnt like to hear noise that
doesnt hav a cheesey grin behind it!... well, something like
that!


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:23 [#00187522]
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Hmmm.... it seems that many mainstream groups are going
experimental in the hopes of gaining more critical praise.

What was highly dissonant to the ears of the majority years
ago is consonant to their ears now.

Think about it -- in about 10 or 15 years, the mainstream
might actually be able to accept music such as AFX and
Squarepusher.

When dissonance is listened to over a long period of time,
it becomes consonant, eventually -- pleasing to the ear
rather than not.

So in the end, everything that starts as experiemtnal ends
up becoming commercial.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-04-21 19:36 [#00187544]
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i think experimental stuff may be going a bit towards
commercialism...just listen to timbaland
this is why its called 'experimental'...the 'experiments'
that are successful are brought into the mainstream and used
to make money
the 'experimentors' will likely stay out of the mainstream
though...as what their doing is still in the developmental
stage...
guys like aphex and ae or squarepusher are like the research
scientists of the music world...and what they do comes after
even more acedemic experiments by more acedemically minded
people


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:37 [#00187547]
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wasnt chris vrenna a band member of Nine Inch Nails?


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:57 [#00187576]
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yeah, he did drum programming from him...

all nin is is trent playing a quick tune on synth, then he
turns to his team of programmers, and says:

"this! use these sounds, and make a song like this!"

amd then he adds vocals...

but he does the concept, and image(his live image is an ohgr
rippoff)...and what not...


 


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