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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:03 [#00187471]
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What do you ppl think? Experimental is going comcerial...But i always thought that chris vrenna wasn't half bad. I heard a few tracks from American Mcgee's Alice, and they seemed decent, but this Tweaker project sure is catchy...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:07 [#00187487]
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experimental is never going commercial. Different aspects of experimental will. The innovators will never be in the mainstream
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:09 [#00187491]
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i know what you mean...but this is a very comercial experimental CD...and it's well accepted in the mainstream...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:11 [#00187498]
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this is an artist!?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:12 [#00187499]
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ah yeah right read ya post now
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:16 [#00187505]
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yeah, it's called tweaker...
i think you can find the oficial site up at tweaker.net...
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:16 [#00187507]
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its only available as an import in the uk, why is that?
i want it but imports are expensive : (
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:18 [#00187511]
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do you even know who chris vrenna is? he's not huge...but he's done programming for quite a great amount of american artists...
and yes, the cd "attraction to all things uncertain" is experimental, and yes, it is mainstream, and yes, i do know what experimental is...infact, experimental noise, and IDM are my favorite genres
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:18 [#00187513]
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my brother said a good point.... "it will piss people off to much to go big..."
we were talking about the band 'the streets', even tho it's not experimental at all it's just not garage and its not hiphop, it's just not how people like to hear it.
and i know that my sister doesnt like to hear noise that doesnt hav a cheesey grin behind it!... well, something like that!
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:23 [#00187522]
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Hmmm.... it seems that many mainstream groups are going experimental in the hopes of gaining more critical praise.
What was highly dissonant to the ears of the majority years ago is consonant to their ears now.
Think about it -- in about 10 or 15 years, the mainstream might actually be able to accept music such as AFX and Squarepusher.
When dissonance is listened to over a long period of time, it becomes consonant, eventually -- pleasing to the ear rather than not.
So in the end, everything that starts as experiemtnal ends up becoming commercial.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-04-21 19:36 [#00187544]
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i think experimental stuff may be going a bit towards commercialism...just listen to timbaland
this is why its called 'experimental'...the 'experiments' that are successful are brought into the mainstream and used to make money
the 'experimentors' will likely stay out of the mainstream though...as what their doing is still in the developmental stage...
guys like aphex and ae or squarepusher are like the research scientists of the music world...and what they do comes after even more acedemic experiments by more acedemically minded people
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-21 19:37 [#00187547]
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wasnt chris vrenna a band member of Nine Inch Nails?
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-21 19:57 [#00187576]
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yeah, he did drum programming from him...
all nin is is trent playing a quick tune on synth, then he turns to his team of programmers, and says:
"this! use these sounds, and make a song like this!"
amd then he adds vocals...
but he does the concept, and image(his live image is an ohgr rippoff)...and what not...
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