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online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 00:14 [#02574119]
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i've heard your complaints about filming jams with a
digital camera. from the start, i have had these same
complaints myself.... but, really, i don't have anything
else handy to record them, aside from a minidisc (but, then,
again, i have no way to bounce it WAV).

i made the best of it, and had fun figuring out different
esoteric things to point the camera at.

anyways, i'd like to get something that works like my
minidisc -- about the size of a pack of cards, maybe a
little bit bigger to allow for a more featured interface --
but records to SD cards.

i'd almost never record anything except stereo, and
multitrack means more complexity and size and cost and
whatever, so, yeah, just a stereo WAV recorder.
battery-power would be nice, but like multitrack, i'd rarely
need that.

i'd like something reasonably decent, analog2decent, but i
don't need anything top-shelf -- you guys know my
recordings, full of feedback and distortion... i'm not
exactly steve albini. as an analogy: i can tell the
difference between a $20 bottle of wine and a $50 bottle of
wine, but not the difference between a $50 bottle of wine
and a $200 bottle of wine. i'm looking for a $50 bottle of
wine.

on that note: budget: i really don't care. if it's too
expensive, it'll be overkill for me anyways

...what should i get?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 00:17 [#02574121]
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line in on your soundcard,


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 00:18 [#02574122]
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seriously though mindisc is pretty decent especially
mindiscHD


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 00:18 [#02574123]
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I loved mine but I got sand in it


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 00:21 [#02574124]
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line in on your soundcard,

i fucking hate the tedium of bouncing shit, i can afford a
digital recorder, why not go straight to WAV?

quite frankly, i have a gigantic tub of minidiscs i need to
sort through and rip. recordings that haven't been heard in
a decade. that's why i'm not gonna use it. i want to be able
to just record 40 minutes of crap and without stressing how
long this will take to bounce later



 

online belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-04-11 00:22 [#02574125]
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this will be relevant to me also, hopefully. when i'm not so
penniless. minidisc is good if you've got good mics but
having to bounce the audio to pc in realtime is a real pain


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 00:23 [#02574126]
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what i always wanted was one of those desktop minidisc
machines that could read it direct, digitally, faster. i
guess there's optical, too, but not once in my life have i
gotten that crap to work


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 00:25 [#02574128]
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i'm browsing around and they have ones with microphones,
too. that changes the dynamic. it'd be nice to take it out
and field record too. i don't have a decent mic anymore, so
it's relevant

not sure what that does to the price. still mostly just want
a digital recorder; might ignore this angle. more research
will determine


 

offline mermaidman from the pacific ocean on 2019-04-11 00:26 [#02574129]
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don’t you want to edit it process it later in the computer



 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 00:27 [#02574131]
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pretty much about it. if only it had RCA or phono in
instead of XLR. i'd have to buy XLR to 1/4" adapters or
someth


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 00:27 [#02574132]
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the shittest thing about minidisc is the proprietary
software sonicstage, im sure there are alternatives but I
never checked.


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 00:31 [#02574135]
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don’t you want to edit it process it later in the
computer


it's not just "making music," i have a couple different
zones:

1. VST, Cubase, etc.
2. Hardware Jams
3. Hardware Tracks
4. VST, Cubase, etc. incorporating sliced-up Hardware Jams
5. Lo-Fi Tracker Trax
6. Getting together with some mates and playing acoustic
instruments on drug

what you refer to is #4. i don't currently have a setup that
can do cubase/vst. so, no, i don't want



 

online belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-04-11 00:34 [#02574137]
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i used binaural mics for field recordings, these
specifically, and they've been they've been great. listening
back to recordings of say, travelling on a bus or a train
feels like you're actually moving if you shut your eyes


 

online hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2019-04-11 00:35 [#02574139]
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i have a zoom hd16 (8 input, 16 channel digital mixer) and
i'm actually wanting to get rid of it and get something like
those zoom h4 handheld recorders. really i just need
something to bounce stereo audio down to as well and with 8
inputs, i spend too much time worrying about what to route
into it, how to bounce out subgroups and whatnot when i
should just be bouncing the master outputs of my analog
mixer into a l/r stereo recording. i think digital mixers
were great a decade ago before recording to computer became
so easy & casual or nice to keep around if you have very
little gear. craigslist has the zoom h series records for
pretty cheap usually if you don't care about buying new. i
kinda want one with a mic as well to do field recordings; i
have a minidisc recorder/player, but i've not really used it
for recording much.


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 00:35 [#02574140]
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putting microphones exactly where the sound enters your
ears; that's brilliant. i really mean that. but, it's not
really something i need right now


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 00:37 [#02574141]
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i have a zoom hd16 (8 input, 16 channel digital mixer)
and i'm actually wanting to get rid of it and get something
like those zoom h4 handheld recorders. really i just need
something to bounce stereo audio down to as well and with 8
inputs, i spend too much time worrying about what to route
into it, how to bounce out subgroups and whatnot


yes, exactly. i've tried so much gear over the years, and it
boils down to this: could i operate this whilst off my tits
on drugs? if the answer is no, i avoid buying it


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 00:39 [#02574143]
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an mpc 1000 is not a simple device, by any measure. it's
complex, flexible, powerful. it is also impeccably designed;
utterly met the criteria specified in my previous post


 

online hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2019-04-11 00:40 [#02574144]
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actually, speaking of minidisc, we should bring them back
like some obscure hipster format to release on. i mean, it
seems cassettes are back in style, so why not minidiscs too
and other antiquated junk?


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 01:10 [#02574146]
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i appreciated cassette a bit more once i saw some afx
interview where he's describing how different brands of tape
have different distortions when you overdrive them, how if
you overdub a tape and play it on top of the original copy
you get lovely organic weirdness

tape, reel-to-reel -- if you have a proper studio
infrastructure, a good desk, and you're recording analog, 1"
16 track can be quite proper. i think squarepusher also did
hard normal daddy etc. with such a thing.

myself, i can't be arsed. i used to have a fireface 800, and
that thing sounded fucking amazing; had more tracks than i
could even conceive of using. for the sort of thing i do, 1"
tape would just be a bottleneck


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 01:11 [#02574147]
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one thing i've actually never quite gotten into is recording
things track-by-track: like, you record the bass on one
track of your tape, then some drums on another, then more
drums on another... i dunno, i should probably try that sort
of build-by-layer approach sometime; it would probably
broaden my perspective


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2019-04-11 03:29 [#02574149]
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i've got an m-audio microtrack ii? is this the sort of thing
you're after? cos i really like mine it's nice and small and
does the job
well it uses compact flash cards instead of sd but you can
just plug the recorder in usb

i don't know if they still produce it but it shouldn't be
too hard to find used & cheap


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-04-11 03:34 [#02574150]
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i do have a soft spot in my heart for m-audio. my first
"proper" audio interface was an m-audio delta 1010. while,
frankly, it is complete turd compared to RME, it was still
the first solid audio interface with multiple channels that
i'd ever had in my life. even after the delta 1010 kicked
off; died; it lived on -- with me rebuilding the innards of
the rack unit with spring reverb nonsense.


 

online hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2019-04-11 04:27 [#02574152]
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whoa there, the microtrack records to CF cards? i have over
2 dozen of those things laying around that i bought for my
MPC 2000XL at a super cheap price when i upgraded the floppy
drive to a CF card reader; it would be nice to record &
sample stuff on the microtrack and then plug the card into
the MPC, or track out to the micro and plug that CF card
into the usb multi-card reader i have for my computer. one
of the reasons i want to get rid of my digital mixer is
because i have to hook it up to my computer and do file
transfers via usb and convert files and all this junk, when
i could just record straight to CF cards and move those back
& forth without the current physical hassle i go through


 

offline Portnoy on 2019-04-11 20:06 [#02574214]
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I've been using a Tascam Dr 40 for about 9 years now. It has
served me well and continues to do so.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 20:28 [#02574220]
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when can we hear some of your stuff?


 

offline Portnoy on 2019-04-11 20:42 [#02574223]
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i post somethings occasionally, I think you once commented
positively about something I posted


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 20:56 [#02574227]
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oh did I? excellent I have a mind like a sieve, well eagerly
anticipating more, I still have to comment on the stuff belb
posted, I downloaded it but haven't listened yet


 

offline Portnoy on 2019-04-11 21:02 [#02574229]
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yes likewise but the download failed 3 times on me
yesterday, so ill give it another shot later

just installed linux on my old compaq core duo laptop,
messing about on it and seeing what i can get running


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 21:13 [#02574230]
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brilliant, whats distro?


 

offline Portnoy on 2019-04-11 21:23 [#02574235]
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ubuntu for ease of use.

I might try Manjaro


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-04-11 21:32 [#02574237]
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yeah Its definitely good for ease of use, I don't really
have any other suggestions, I like mint and fedora, but
guess with Linux you can customise it to your own preference
so doesn't matter too much


 


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