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i've heard your complaints about filming jams with a digital camera. from the start, i have had these same complaints myself.... but, really, i don't have anything else handy to record them, aside from a minidisc (but, then, again, i have no way to bounce it WAV). i made the best of it, and had fun figuring out different esoteric things to point the camera at. anyways, i'd like to get something that works like my minidisc -- about the size of a pack of cards, maybe a little bit bigger to allow for a more featured interface -- but records to SD cards. i'd almost never record anything except stereo, and multitrack means more complexity and size and cost and whatever, so, yeah, just a stereo WAV recorder. battery-power would be nice, but like multitrack, i'd rarely need that. i'd like something reasonably decent, analog2decent, but i don't need anything top-shelf -- you guys know my recordings, full of feedback and distortion... i'm not exactly steve albini. as an analogy: i can tell the difference between a $20 bottle of wine and a $50 bottle of wine, but not the difference between a $50 bottle of wine and a $200 bottle of wine. i'm looking for a $50 bottle of wine. on that note: budget: i really don't care. if it's too expensive, it'll be overkill for me anyways ...what should i get? |
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line in on your soundcard, |
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seriously though mindisc is pretty decent especially mindiscHD |
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I loved mine but I got sand in it |
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line in on your soundcard, i fucking hate the tedium of bouncing shit, i can afford a digital recorder, why not go straight to WAV? quite frankly, i have a gigantic tub of minidiscs i need to sort through and rip. recordings that haven't been heard in a decade. that's why i'm not gonna use it. i want to be able to just record 40 minutes of crap and without stressing how long this will take to bounce later |
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this will be relevant to me also, hopefully. when i'm not so penniless. minidisc is good if you've got good mics but having to bounce the audio to pc in realtime is a real pain |
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what i always wanted was one of those desktop minidisc machines that could read it direct, digitally, faster. i guess there's optical, too, but not once in my life have i gotten that crap to work |
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i'm browsing around and they have ones with microphones, too. that changes the dynamic. it'd be nice to take it out and field record too. i don't have a decent mic anymore, so it's relevant not sure what that does to the price. still mostly just want a digital recorder; might ignore this angle. more research will determine |
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don’t you want to edit it process it later in the computer |
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about it. if only it had RCA or phono in instead of XLR. i'd have to buy XLR to 1/4" adapters or someth |
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the shittest thing about minidisc is the proprietary software sonicstage, im sure there are alternatives but I never checked. |
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don’t you want to edit it process it later in the computer it's not just "making music," i have a couple different zones: 1. VST, Cubase, etc. 2. Hardware Jams 3. Hardware Tracks 4. VST, Cubase, etc. incorporating sliced-up Hardware Jams 5. Lo-Fi Tracker Trax 6. Getting together with some mates and playing acoustic instruments on drug what you refer to is #4. i don't currently have a setup that can do cubase/vst. so, no, i don't want |
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i used binaural mics for field recordings, specifically, and they've been they've been great. listening back to recordings of say, travelling on a bus or a train feels like you're actually moving if you shut your eyes |
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i have a zoom hd16 (8 input, 16 channel digital mixer) and i'm actually wanting to get rid of it and get something like those zoom h4 handheld recorders. really i just need something to bounce stereo audio down to as well and with 8 inputs, i spend too much time worrying about what to route into it, how to bounce out subgroups and whatnot when i should just be bouncing the master outputs of my analog mixer into a l/r stereo recording. i think digital mixers were great a decade ago before recording to computer became so easy & casual or nice to keep around if you have very little gear. craigslist has the zoom h series records for pretty cheap usually if you don't care about buying new. i kinda want one with a mic as well to do field recordings; i have a minidisc recorder/player, but i've not really used it for recording much. |
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putting microphones exactly where the sound enters your ears; that's brilliant. i really mean that. but, it's not really something i need right now |
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i have a zoom hd16 (8 input, 16 channel digital mixer) and i'm actually wanting to get rid of it and get something like those zoom h4 handheld recorders. really i just need something to bounce stereo audio down to as well and with 8 inputs, i spend too much time worrying about what to route into it, how to bounce out subgroups and whatnot yes, exactly. i've tried so much gear over the years, and it boils down to this: could i operate this whilst off my tits on drugs? if the answer is no, i avoid buying it |
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an mpc 1000 is not a simple device, by any measure. it's complex, flexible, powerful. it is also impeccably designed; utterly met the criteria specified in my previous post |
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actually, speaking of minidisc, we should bring them back like some obscure hipster format to release on. i mean, it seems cassettes are back in style, so why not minidiscs too and other antiquated junk? |
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i appreciated cassette a bit more once i saw some afx interview where he's describing how different brands of tape have different distortions when you overdrive them, how if you overdub a tape and play it on top of the original copy you get lovely organic weirdness tape, reel-to-reel -- if you have a proper studio infrastructure, a good desk, and you're recording analog, 1" 16 track can be quite proper. i think squarepusher also did hard normal daddy etc. with such a thing. myself, i can't be arsed. i used to have a fireface 800, and that thing sounded fucking amazing; had more tracks than i could even conceive of using. for the sort of thing i do, 1" tape would just be a bottleneck |
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one thing i've actually never quite gotten into is recording things track-by-track: like, you record the bass on one track of your tape, then some drums on another, then more drums on another... i dunno, i should probably try that sort of build-by-layer approach sometime; it would probably broaden my perspective |
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i've got an m-audio microtrack ii? is this the sort of thing you're after? cos i really like mine it's nice and small and does the job well it uses compact flash cards instead of sd but you can just plug the recorder in usb i don't know if they still produce it but it shouldn't be too hard to find used & cheap |
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i do have a soft spot in my heart for m-audio. my first "proper" audio interface was an m-audio delta 1010. while, frankly, it is complete turd compared to RME, it was still the first solid audio interface with multiple channels that i'd ever had in my life. even after the delta 1010 kicked off; died; it lived on -- with me rebuilding the innards of the rack unit with nonsense. |
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whoa there, the microtrack records to CF cards? i have over 2 dozen of those things laying around that i bought for my MPC 2000XL at a super cheap price when i upgraded the floppy drive to a CF card reader; it would be nice to record & sample stuff on the microtrack and then plug the card into the MPC, or track out to the micro and plug that CF card into the usb multi-card reader i have for my computer. one of the reasons i want to get rid of my digital mixer is because i have to hook it up to my computer and do file transfers via usb and convert files and all this junk, when i could just record straight to CF cards and move those back & forth without the current physical hassle i go through |
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I've been using a Tascam Dr 40 for about 9 years now. It has served me well and continues to do so. |
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when can we hear some of your stuff? |
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i post somethings occasionally, I think you once commented positively about something I posted |
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oh did I? excellent I have a mind like a sieve, well eagerly anticipating more, I still have to comment on the stuff belb posted, I downloaded it but haven't listened yet |
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yes likewise but the download failed 3 times on me yesterday, so ill give it another shot later just installed linux on my old compaq core duo laptop, messing about on it and seeing what i can get running |
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brilliant, whats distro? |
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ubuntu for ease of use. I might try Manjaro |
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yeah Its definitely good for ease of use, I don't really have any other suggestions, I like mint and fedora, but guess with Linux you can customise it to your own preference so doesn't matter too much |
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