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Difficult game |
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umbro your avatar matches with your arguments, i dont know shit but it was worth a read |
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Queen planning to wipe her ass with a sock, in solidarity with the British people The United Kingdom is one of the largest importers of toilet paper, with supply levels only expected to last a day before it needs to take more deliveries. |
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Ha ha! You silly man, of course the “gift” was refused, the queen doesn’t defecate! As for the solidarity thing... are you suggesting us English wipe our arses with socks? Aren’t socks used worldwide to wipe semen off ones belly after a wank? Maybe Prince Phillip could render a sock’s softness into that of cardboard out of solidarity for the anxious teens of Britain. |
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wonder what will happen when EU fishermen try to fish in our national waters and vice versa, new cod wars |
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The only thing you can fish in british waters is filet-o-fish |
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fish fingers |
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ate them today, exquisite |
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yeah underrated for sure |
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Did anyone see May's Orwellian speech last night, fucking bizarre even the news guy on ITV later was like that's fucking weird , my gf doesn't really do politics and she was like "is this normal?" |
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do you guys also like it when your g-string rubs against your anus |
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i'm sure wavephace likes it |
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The primary objective of any negotiation must be to protect the GDP at all costs; without a strong GDP Britain will not be able to attract the talent it needs to grow the GDP |
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She's legit lost the plot. I expect her to take hostages in parliament and it end with death by cop before the end of next week. |
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She's trying her hand at what every other authoritarian leader is doing right now: loudly and assertively stating absolute nonsense and hoping that most people are too mentally, emotionally, financially and physically exhausted to do anything about it. |
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yeah it definitely is in lock step with what other populist leaders are trying to push, I naively thought id never see it in this country, it was utterly bizarre |
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yeah she has dead eyes, shes totally fucked in the head if she think she can get away with this bullshit, |
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She also likes to fuck kids |
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im not absolving labour of the Iraqi war and other shit, but why is it when we have the Tories in we always have these massive social/domestic upheavals, its not so much Brexit in and of itself I have an issue with, its the complete clusterfuck of unpreparedness/incompetence that has lead us to the edge of economic calamity |
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That's capitalism, buddy. Marx talked about this like crisis theory, the endless cycles of boom and bust that devastates economies and peoples: And how does the bourgeoisie get over these crises? On the one hand by enforced destruction of a mass of productive forces; on the other, by the conquest of new markets, and by the more thorough exploitation of the old ones. That is to say, by paving the way for more extensive and more destructive crises, and by diminishing the means whereby crises are prevented. [standing in a burning house laughing maniacally] MORE deregulation! MORE austerity! MORE!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA |
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I know that's the academic way of looking at it, but are they truly aware they are doing wrong. Im playing devils advocate here, Theresa May for instance does she sit in number 10 thinking right im going to royally fuck the poor with this continuation of the boom bust cycle, or is she just grossly misguided and incompetent. I think after the speech she gave she did come across as totally evil so its properly the former reason |
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Well for Marx, the way we arrange our morality and societies and law is according to how we benefit from our means of production: Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of the conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class made into a law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economical conditions of existence of your class. The selfish misconception that induces you to transform into eternal laws of nature and of reason, the social forms springing from your present mode of production and form of property – historical relations that rise and disappear in the progress of production – this misconception you share with every ruling class that has preceded you. What you see clearly in the case of ancient property, what you admit in the case of feudal property, you are of course forbidden to admit in the case of your own bourgeois form of property. So no of course people like Theresa May are not literally cackling gleefully like villains as they preside over crisis after crisis, they just know what side of the bread the butter is on and arrange things accordingly. (but some are that they benefit from it) |
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(the word "bourgeois" gets old fast when you read Marx, so just substitute "neoliberal" when you see it, that's pretty much what Marx meant) |
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Exactly |
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The Mogg apple doesn't fall far from the tree I see Yeah I mean Marx definitely had a point, but I cant see how these systems wont continually arise no matter what economic system is in vogue, its the fallibility of human nature to corral wealth and feather their own nests, admittedly things could be a lot better than they are currently though |
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> I cant see how these systems wont continually arise no matter what economic system is in vogue, its the fallibility of human nature to corral wealth and feather their own nests, admittedly things could be a lot better than they are currently though Because of automation and gains in productivity, people could have a lot more and work a lot less instead of competitively overproducing for a tiny minority in ways that cause frequent economic collapse for the rest of us. Instead we have the insane situation of Bezos having more than a hundred billion dollars while his workers scrape out a bare existence peeing in bottles because they're afraid to take bathroom breaks, working in warehouses that are sometimes so hot that they pass out, because it's cheaper to have a paramedic standing by than to install air conditioning. I recall in Monbiot's book Out Of The Wreckage he talks about recent studies that show people to be a lot more innately cooperative and altruistic than capitalist "common knowledge" would have it. You have to be wary of letting your ideology arise from your current system of production, where we think of people as competitive nest-featherers, and then eternalize that into a law of nature. |
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Tony is 100% right. I'd also suggest you read "The Better Angels of Our Nature" by Steven Pinker. Basically, people used to be bad, but now people are good. All we have to do now is get rid of the remaining bad people |
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Man. That is some high quality trolling. This is Harvard PhD level trolling. I can't imagine the brutal man hours spent on voat and pol building up the meme muscles. Once again my fedora's off to you, m'lady! |
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How do you propose we get rid of those pesky “bad” people, Waphe? |
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you send them to middle east and build a wall around them |
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Education |
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hyperflake. mogg and those like minded in the tory party hate theresa may. people who like the idea of inflicting austerity or (much worse) a brexit with no deal on poor people describe theresa as a traitor and a plotting remainer. men like mogg boris of duncansmith all want her gone. its not a secret. its mainstream news for about 3 years the real bad guys that want to mimic trumps populism (such as boris) were being held back by theresa. so do you see that you might be misunderstanding this situation? |
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i wonder what wavy's re-education camps would look like all correct thought training and hella nasty rice dishes, forced operations for class enemies and songs giving thanks to dear leader phobiazero |
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You've misunderstood; we should educate the good people about who the bad people are |
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am... am i good people? please teach me i must learn halp |
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What podcasts do you listen to? |
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haha |
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She's pandered to those guys repeatedly to stay in her position, she's completely self serving and not holding them back, letting them loose just doesn't serve her right now. |
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alright, i'll play along, though the implication that you can judge a person's moral worth by the material they listen to pretty objectionable - richard herring's leicester square theatre podcast - short cuts with josie long - the comedian's comedian with stuart goldsmith - in our time with melvyn bragg - all killa no filla - the adam buxton podcast - off menu with ed gamble and james acaster - my dad wrote a porno - the bugle with andy zaltzman - athletico mince |
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what do you mean indeksical? |
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Well you seem like a generally good person but I would subscribe to Pod Save America just to make sure |
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indeksical get back to me |
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indeksical |
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hyperflake do you sort of get what i mean about theresa may? |
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is a good podcast with a good name (the name comes from the German word , and in the Italian sense, hence the picture of Berlusconi) |
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Get back to AMPI, Indeksical! I’m dying here! |
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oh yeah May is totally incompetent and weird but I don't know if she's out right evil like Mogg and Johnson |
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Everyone here knows the tory party is the problem. Vote Corbyn. |
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How can people look at Jacob Rees Mogg and vote for him? if this was the 18th century he would have a mill full of street urchins with consumption and missing fingers |
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