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why do politicians have to be perfect
 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:27 [#02568667]
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i think having to maintain the illusion of a stainless
character leads to an infinitely spiraling machinery of
horseshit optics-control


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:29 [#02568668]
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if we treat them like humans,
perhaps they'll act like humans

perhaps this joke is the sort of joke i shouldn't jest joke


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:34 [#02568669]
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i also think, down here on the internets, we bear a layer of
responsibility: bitching. "those politician machines, fuck
those machines." understanding that they are people with
normal sort of people drives is the first stage in
functional dipomacy


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:34 [#02568670]
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w M w would U meet with A congressman?


 

offline Tony Danza from Morlocktopia on 2019-02-09 03:34 [#02568671]
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only democrats and liberals have to be perfect


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:36 [#02568672]
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republicans just have to be white


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:38 [#02568673]
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your avatar is white. it is a republican


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 05:28 [#02568682]
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Does a congressman want to meet with me?

The One Ring should be thrown in Mount Doom, as described in
this video:
LAZY_TITLE

in childlike simplicity fitting for a population of socially
engineered arrested development adults who where born into
school slavery their entire pupa and young adult stage, who
ride adult tricycles, color in adult coloring books and use
adult diapers, the perfect population to be enslaved in
cubicles and iphones and apartment rentals and car insurance
fees in their adult stage.

I bet everyone in the room of Trump's "state of the union"
speech is a high level landlord, and claiming illegitimate
ownership over more than roughly (land divided by
population) land/buildings, thus initiating force on the
ability of other people to live somewhere, and making
homesteading (which pretty much means living) illegimately
illegal, thus forcing people to rent/bloodlet to you
monthly, is the root crime, the root of the corruption in
our system in my current calculation.

"understanding that they are people with normal sort of
people drives". Their wealth makes them out of touch with
reality, trump's son looks like narcist prince from super
punchout, a child billionaire and you can see the young
version of what later becomes the adult landlord trump. My
previous landlord disallowed overnight guests, so my "normal
people drive" was not being allowed to breed, different
rules for different classes. I assume trump has uncountable
houses where he is excempt from the most local tyranny with
the highest tax, landlord rental terms & rent tax. And the
most draconian punishment for not paying it-homelessness. As
long as homesteading is illegal, rent is theft. but Alex
Jones seems to like trump, and he's far more
intelligent/tactical than me. Government + landlords is
symbiotic fascism (merger of business and government), one
illegalizing homesteading, the other getting forced business
cuz of the former.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 05:35 [#02568684]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 05:46 [#02568686]
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Does a congressman want to meet with me?

without reading any further: no.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 06:02 [#02568687]
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*plays clip from pulp fiction where travolta says "then
why'd you ask me about it"* which I can't find or link since
we live under a tyranny of fbi enforced illegitimate
intellectual property, where patterns of information,
numers, are illegal. Illegal numbers has a wikipedia page,
wikipedia is now uneditable, automated into the one truth by
bots. Part of the borg like the rest.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:05 [#02568688]
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can i just moot the idea that a cranky landlord is not yr
main impediment to breeding wmw


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:09 [#02568689]
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can you seriously not get an escort to visit you in the
daytime? a kind girl might even listen to you bang on about
homesteading once the deed is done


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:32 [#02568691]
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i can understand being morally opposed to prostitution but
is this about actually passing on yr genes or just being
outraged that you can't get yr dick wet?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 06:34 [#02568692]
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That's just a convenient soundbite/microcosm of the evil, an
example of the absolute power corruption landlords have.
There should be no homeless people, people would hardly have
to work at all unless they want extra spending money, since
it isn't all stolen as rent and they can grow their own food
if they're actually allowed to have land. The drastic
lowering of supply of workers, previously forced to work to
pay rent, would mean drastic raising of working
conditions/pay in order to attract the few left who want to
work, and the whole governmentless free market would mean
it'd be much easier to work for yourself than a corporation,
with no license needed to cut hair or drive a taxi. No
building regulations or zoning laws. This is about all of
humanity greatly improving its standard of living and
condition.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:34 [#02568693]
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sorry if that all looks a bit mean-spirited but i think
someone needed to say it

(connect four)


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:36 [#02568694]
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ooh you git, connect four denied


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:48 [#02568695]
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i agree that there should be nobody forced to be homeless,
land barons are evil fuckers on the whole and exploit the
working class / underclass. do you want a cashless society /
barter system cos the corollary to that is are you willing /
knowledgeable enough to grow yr own food? and who decides
who gets desirable and undesirable land? your faith in the
free market baffles me a bit, your system sounds like a
tyrant creation machine


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 09:09 [#02568698]
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This is an old anarchism vs minarchism debate reposted by
someone so am half through watching again since I have no
life:
LAZY_TITLE

I think no system can work if most people are "bad", meaning
predatory thieves etc who initiate force on others. Dawkins
has said humans are mostly altruistic because as hunter
gatherers, who we're still genetically similar to, we lived
in small tribes where we had a lot of relatives (a lot of
shared genes). Or in game theory predation might be a risky
strategy that isn't highly rewarded. But you can look around
modern society and most average people (non government
people) seem to get along and mutually benefit from
voluntarily trading (which is all a free market is) although
the free market in our system is a sabotaged shadow of what
it could be. But anyway, if most people are good, in a real
free market (not corporatocracy/government fascism) the
majority of wealth would flow voluntarily from people who
want to buy to people that have a product/service to sell.
People selling coffee/self defense/food/etc. There would
probably be mafia strategies in free market niches, but
their offense would have to compete with all that money the
voluntaryist free market could afford in self defense. Plus
a child's upbringing largely determines how violent they are
as an adult, and there'd be so much freedom in a free
market, such a reduction in stress, probably just an overall
happier society, happier kids which don't speak/imitate the
language of violence as much.
You can still buy food if you don't grow it, there should be
a free market in whatever type of money people want.
Anything can be used as money but some things are better
suited like gold due to divisibility rareness etc. If I
trade a cow for eggs, the eggs sort of are money similar if
i instead traded the cow for gold. its unavoidable for
scarce things 2 be valued more than others with
supply/demand.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 09:14 [#02568699]
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for land, say there's 5 people on an island, one spot has a
valuable/scarce place to fish, the rest of the shore is
steep less valued cliffs. I think the amount of land you can
homestead is 'land/population but also * by inverse of
demand or whatever. So you can homestead 1/5th of that cliff
area. if a 6th person comes along then 1/6th, a large
portion since it has low demand. The fishing area you can
homestead 1/5th of that smaller area, less overall land,
since it has high demand by the other 4. homesteading more
than that initiates force on the freedom of the other 4 to
live somewhere. Or since there's such a low number of people
in this case they can voluntarily agree to whatever they
want like treating the whole island like a commune/commons
and just have private huts or whatever.


 

offline mermaidman from the indian ocean on 2019-02-09 09:21 [#02568700]
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wmw it only makes sense if you're trolling


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 09:51 [#02568702]
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it's not something i think about a great deal and i'm
probably going to talk in gut feelings rather than anything
backed up by academic research (damn, that'll sure be a
novelty on the internet) but:

the trend for violent crime is largely falling, and people
are generally nice to each other as it's mutually
beneficial. i think if people aren't deceived by false
narratives of fear, they're smarter and nicer than those in
power expect / plan for. however that excludes those in
power from being human, as if they're a separate species -
why is it that selfish strategies work for some, and seem to
be self-perpeting?

i think capitalism is a rigged system, and we largely agree
the more i go back and look at your post. however i think
we're looking at this from a position of ridiculous
privilege and it's distorting our view. the first world runs
on exploitation of the third, there are centuries-old
systems of oppression in gender politics, children are
conditioned simply by observing parents as you rightly point
out.

so what's the solution? i think i personally would die if
the current system didn't exist so i have a hard time
advocating violent revolution, as moral as it would be. it's
going to take a huge change in human mindsets and i don't
think i have a plan. i just try to be peaceful and tolerant
in my actions and thoughts, and that's hard enough
sometimes.

also: clims


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 10:10 [#02568703]
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*self-perpetuating


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 10:37 [#02568704]
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Thanks cuz I'm always trolling.

clims. I don't know, maybe its dark 'synergy' of selfish
strategies + money, which accumulates into few hands
amplified by rigged systems and can be converted to anything
buyable- weapons/supercomputers/etc, or in this system's
case, a bunch of apartments for slaves forced to rent to
become a gravity well for even more money. All the people
who stole bitcoin from exchanges etc will probably have it
made and their children too, who will become
dacadent/spoiled. They have all that money but they don't
have all the human bodies on earth, maybe that's their
disadvantage. But due to the selfish gene we don't cooperate
to simply go and take back what was stolen is mass
restitution of wealth (only from those who acquired it from
rigging/fraud/etc, which is most in this system) and land.
Bees probably would since they're genetic clones and
altruism toward a different bee is genetically the same as
altruism toward yourself so they can cooperate- genetic
socialists. But wait they do have bodies, they just
pay/bribe police/military to control the rest, and they have
100% obedient robots now or soon. I have this dystopian
hypothesis that government is god. Or it becomes god
with all its power and supercomputer etc omniscience in the
future and is now lording over us in the present from the
future or something. Maybe a human brain is the "god" of the
body, but all the cells are in complicated harmony. This
government brain seems sickly, not at harmony with the rest
of the "body". The ultimate selfish strategy is like vlad
the impaler, sticking spikes through the ass to the mouth of
tons of victims to intimidate enemies, controlling people
with real fear of horrible torture etc. Hopefully government
won't manifest a robot army and do that. Some anarchists
think assassination is a key defense since one of their main
weaknesses is few people on the top in a hierarchy. but
again selfish gene prevents organization or risk taking.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 10:41 [#02568705]
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it's all just a relatively dumb meta game playing inside
google earth anyway, its main purpose is so that better
videogames can be simulated inside it.


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2019-02-09 10:41 [#02568706]
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gosh, just exchange them with AI already and make a religion
out of it

I want three sexy columns that glow up in 80s neon colours
when they speak



 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 10:44 [#02568707]
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too bad the pain is coded to be so real though, and there's
like no rewards in terms of pussy, at least as far as I can
tell, dopamine from playing videogames is the only reward so
click those buttons like a bf skinner trained chicken. when
i die, the whole universe dies, if all of you are in my
mind.


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-09 23:05 [#02568751]
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that sounds gay belb. is this cos you listen to jon ronson
all the time? everyone talks abuot jon ronson now.

and epic is right actually


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 23:19 [#02568752]
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"Mike Pence caught with cock in subway sandwich"


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-09 23:26 [#02568753]
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'violent revolution, as moral as it would be' - that would
never ever be moral.

look thats the thing. thats exactly why politicians are MUCH
MORE human than us. we think about misanthropic things all
the time like grand transformations of humanity (a
completely sick idea) - we are cruel cunts. we suck ok. and
we call ourselves the good guys sooo easily it makes me
pretty angry.
responsible politicians actually do some really SERIOUS work
to make all our disgusting schemes against humanity less
possible while trying to give us the machinery for a free
and decent life. im sure you wont believe me.
instead you are likely to think all the things that psychos
say about elites, civil society, money ect ect - that it
corrupts us. every famous psycho has said those things
before blowing up a building full of defenseless people or
shooting a school. i just want you to look at things
differently thats all belb


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-09 23:33 [#02568754]
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for example wmw is going to hurt someone one day (if not
himself) cos he thinks humanity is a lie. give him power and
he would torture children


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-09 23:33 [#02568755]
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not a follow up to hyperflake.

how you doing hyperflake you ok?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 23:42 [#02568756]
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yes im alright thanks, just very sleepy, hope you're doing
well


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-09 23:54 [#02568758]
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im doing ok i suppose i could be better. to be honest im
really sad. every one of my friends that i thought was gonna
get smarter is starting to say more things like 'capitalism
is run by psychopaths' and stuff like that. the most recent
convo - freind says 'we need a total reset'
i said 'but what does that mean man? lots of people have to
die..'
he tried to not respond
i said 'ykno what reset means? lots of people have to die'
he just shrugged and said 'yeah but after that...'

its the same every time. i actually have given up believing
im gonna meet anyone who dosnt talk like this


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 00:07 [#02568759]
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tony danza. im pretty depressed get in here


 

offline Tony Danza from Morlocktopia on 2019-02-10 00:15 [#02568760]
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hey ampi max, cheer up buddy, not everything is polatic's

tonight I'm full of mujadara, hummus, olives, stuffed vine
leaves and spiced chicken

listening to the new leon vynehall dj kicks

how bout you


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 00:26 [#02568762]
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im just sitting around. ive only eaten baked potato for
about 3 weeks (but its not so bad cos i put a lot of cheese
and tomato on it!)


 

offline Tony Danza from Morlocktopia on 2019-02-10 00:31 [#02568763]
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Sounds like a healthier version of poutine!

Try this mujadara recipe, the ingredients are cheap aside from the
olive oil and since it has a bean and a grain it's a
complete protein. I leave out the pine nuts and use a full
cup of basmati rice in mine.


 

offline Tony Danza from Morlocktopia on 2019-02-10 00:34 [#02568764]
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oh yeah and just use regular onions, red onions are a waste
if you're frying them.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-10 00:47 [#02568765]
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don't lump yrself in with the "cruel cunts" then, o wise
one. and don't label me as a "violent psycho" please, just
stick to labelling everything
gay, that's more your level. why such self-loathing anyway?
boring arsehole

i'm sure there are many politicians who believe they're
keeping us free and making things better for the poorest and
downtrodden but they are still just forced into a
point-scoring, adversarial squabble by the tribal nature of
current politics. maybe violent revolution isn't the answer
- i'm a pacifist and make quite clear i probably wouldn't
even be alive under a stateless system. we're indoctrinated
as a society that the system is intractable though, and
history tells us quite differently. learn to dream maybe


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-10 00:48 [#02568766]
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fucking line breaks


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-10 00:52 [#02568767]
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i'm glad you're sad ampi. maybe start wearing eyeliner and
practice attention seeking small cutting gestures until we
all agree politicians are our greatest hope


 

offline Tony Danza from Morlocktopia on 2019-02-10 01:00 [#02568768]
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I was trying to be nice to ampi for a change but lmao savage


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 01:24 [#02568769]
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'we are indoctrinated duuuude'
you are the eyeliner boy. YOU
LAZY_TITLE you see?

do you see? thats you. YOU are the eyeliner fag. you
understand?
fleetmouse do you understand?


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 01:25 [#02568770]
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see? thats you


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-10 01:29 [#02568772]
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haha! so all you've got is "no u" then. alright dear, i'm
the eyeliner one, that's right


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-10 01:31 [#02568773]
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newman and baddiel did the "that's you, that is" in the mid
90s btw


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 01:32 [#02568774]
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its you. read the lyrics. thats you


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 01:33 [#02568775]
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thats you. podcast education muso head. its you dude


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-10 01:33 [#02568776]
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Guys, we're all eyeliner fags.
There's 2 types of violence, self defense/offense. So here's
a pro tip- always paint whatever violence you intend to do
as self defense to maintain the moral highground as you hack
and slash.
But a violent revolution might be mass self defense.


 


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