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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:27 [#02568667]
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i think having to maintain the illusion of a stainless character leads to an infinitely spiraling machinery of horseshit optics-control
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:29 [#02568668]
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if we treat them like humans, perhaps they'll act like humans
perhaps this joke is the sort of joke i shouldn't jest joke
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:34 [#02568669]
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i also think, down here on the internets, we bear a layer of responsibility: bitching. "those politician machines, fuck those machines." understanding that they are people with normal sort of people drives is the first stage in functional dipomacy
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:34 [#02568670]
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w M w would U meet with A congressman?
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-02-09 03:34 [#02568671]
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only democrats and liberals have to be perfect
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:36 [#02568672]
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republicans just have to be white
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 03:38 [#02568673]
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your avatar is white. it is a republican
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 05:28 [#02568682]
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Does a congressman want to meet with me?
The One Ring should be thrown in Mount Doom, as described in this video:
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in childlike simplicity fitting for a population of socially engineered arrested development adults who where born into school slavery their entire pupa and young adult stage, who ride adult tricycles, color in adult coloring books and use adult diapers, the perfect population to be enslaved in cubicles and iphones and apartment rentals and car insurance fees in their adult stage.
I bet everyone in the room of Trump's "state of the union" speech is a high level landlord, and claiming illegitimate ownership over more than roughly (land divided by population) land/buildings, thus initiating force on the ability of other people to live somewhere, and making homesteading (which pretty much means living) illegimately illegal, thus forcing people to rent/bloodlet to you monthly, is the root crime, the root of the corruption in our system in my current calculation.
"understanding that they are people with normal sort of people drives". Their wealth makes them out of touch with reality, trump's son looks like narcist prince from super punchout, a child billionaire and you can see the young version of what later becomes the adult landlord trump. My previous landlord disallowed overnight guests, so my "normal people drive" was not being allowed to breed, different rules for different classes. I assume trump has uncountable houses where he is excempt from the most local tyranny with the highest tax, landlord rental terms & rent tax. And the most draconian punishment for not paying it-homelessness. As long as homesteading is illegal, rent is theft. but Alex Jones seems to like trump, and he's far more intelligent/tactical than me. Government + landlords is symbiotic fascism (merger of business and government), one illegalizing homesteading, the other getting forced business cuz of the former.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 05:35 [#02568684]
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2019-02-09 05:46 [#02568686]
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Does a congressman want to meet with me?
without reading any further: no.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 06:02 [#02568687]
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*plays clip from pulp fiction where travolta says "then why'd you ask me about it"* which I can't find or link since we live under a tyranny of fbi enforced illegitimate intellectual property, where patterns of information, numers, are illegal. Illegal numbers has a wikipedia page, wikipedia is now uneditable, automated into the one truth by bots. Part of the borg like the rest.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:05 [#02568688]
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can i just moot the idea that a cranky landlord is not yr main impediment to breeding wmw
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:09 [#02568689]
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can you seriously not get an escort to visit you in the daytime? a kind girl might even listen to you bang on about homesteading once the deed is done
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:32 [#02568691]
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i can understand being morally opposed to prostitution but is this about actually passing on yr genes or just being outraged that you can't get yr dick wet?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 06:34 [#02568692]
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That's just a convenient soundbite/microcosm of the evil, an example of the absolute power corruption landlords have. There should be no homeless people, people would hardly have to work at all unless they want extra spending money, since it isn't all stolen as rent and they can grow their own food if they're actually allowed to have land. The drastic lowering of supply of workers, previously forced to work to pay rent, would mean drastic raising of working conditions/pay in order to attract the few left who want to work, and the whole governmentless free market would mean it'd be much easier to work for yourself than a corporation, with no license needed to cut hair or drive a taxi. No building regulations or zoning laws. This is about all of humanity greatly improving its standard of living and condition.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:34 [#02568693]
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sorry if that all looks a bit mean-spirited but i think someone needed to say it
(connect four)
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:36 [#02568694]
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ooh you git, connect four denied
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 06:48 [#02568695]
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i agree that there should be nobody forced to be homeless, land barons are evil fuckers on the whole and exploit the working class / underclass. do you want a cashless society / barter system cos the corollary to that is are you willing / knowledgeable enough to grow yr own food? and who decides who gets desirable and undesirable land? your faith in the free market baffles me a bit, your system sounds like a tyrant creation machine
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 09:09 [#02568698]
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This is an old anarchism vs minarchism debate reposted by someone so am half through watching again since I have no life:
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I think no system can work if most people are "bad", meaning predatory thieves etc who initiate force on others. Dawkins has said humans are mostly altruistic because as hunter gatherers, who we're still genetically similar to, we lived in small tribes where we had a lot of relatives (a lot of shared genes). Or in game theory predation might be a risky strategy that isn't highly rewarded. But you can look around modern society and most average people (non government people) seem to get along and mutually benefit from voluntarily trading (which is all a free market is) although the free market in our system is a sabotaged shadow of what it could be. But anyway, if most people are good, in a real free market (not corporatocracy/government fascism) the majority of wealth would flow voluntarily from people who want to buy to people that have a product/service to sell. People selling coffee/self defense/food/etc. There would probably be mafia strategies in free market niches, but their offense would have to compete with all that money the voluntaryist free market could afford in self defense. Plus a child's upbringing largely determines how violent they are as an adult, and there'd be so much freedom in a free market, such a reduction in stress, probably just an overall happier society, happier kids which don't speak/imitate the language of violence as much.
You can still buy food if you don't grow it, there should be a free market in whatever type of money people want. Anything can be used as money but some things are better suited like gold due to divisibility rareness etc. If I trade a cow for eggs, the eggs sort of are money similar if i instead traded the cow for gold. its unavoidable for scarce things 2 be valued more than others with supply/demand.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 09:14 [#02568699]
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for land, say there's 5 people on an island, one spot has a valuable/scarce place to fish, the rest of the shore is steep less valued cliffs. I think the amount of land you can homestead is 'land/population but also * by inverse of demand or whatever. So you can homestead 1/5th of that cliff area. if a 6th person comes along then 1/6th, a large portion since it has low demand. The fishing area you can homestead 1/5th of that smaller area, less overall land, since it has high demand by the other 4. homesteading more than that initiates force on the freedom of the other 4 to live somewhere. Or since there's such a low number of people in this case they can voluntarily agree to whatever they want like treating the whole island like a commune/commons and just have private huts or whatever.
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mermaidman
on 2019-02-09 09:21 [#02568700]
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wmw it only makes sense if you're trolling
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 09:51 [#02568702]
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it's not something i think about a great deal and i'm probably going to talk in gut feelings rather than anything backed up by academic research (damn, that'll sure be a novelty on the internet) but:
the trend for violent crime is largely falling, and people are generally nice to each other as it's mutually beneficial. i think if people aren't deceived by false narratives of fear, they're smarter and nicer than those in power expect / plan for. however that excludes those in power from being human, as if they're a separate species - why is it that selfish strategies work for some, and seem to be self-perpeting?
i think capitalism is a rigged system, and we largely agree the more i go back and look at your post. however i think we're looking at this from a position of ridiculous privilege and it's distorting our view. the first world runs on exploitation of the third, there are centuries-old systems of oppression in gender politics, children are conditioned simply by observing parents as you rightly point out.
so what's the solution? i think i personally would die if the current system didn't exist so i have a hard time advocating violent revolution, as moral as it would be. it's going to take a huge change in human mindsets and i don't think i have a plan. i just try to be peaceful and tolerant in my actions and thoughts, and that's hard enough sometimes.
also: clims
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-09 10:10 [#02568703]
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*self-perpetuating
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 10:37 [#02568704]
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Thanks cuz I'm always trolling.
clims. I don't know, maybe its dark 'synergy' of selfish strategies + money, which accumulates into few hands amplified by rigged systems and can be converted to anything buyable- weapons/supercomputers/etc, or in this system's case, a bunch of apartments for slaves forced to rent to become a gravity well for even more money. All the people who stole bitcoin from exchanges etc will probably have it made and their children too, who will become dacadent/spoiled. They have all that money but they don't have all the human bodies on earth, maybe that's their disadvantage. But due to the selfish gene we don't cooperate to simply go and take back what was stolen is mass restitution of wealth (only from those who acquired it from rigging/fraud/etc, which is most in this system) and land. Bees probably would since they're genetic clones and altruism toward a different bee is genetically the same as altruism toward yourself so they can cooperate- genetic socialists. But wait they do have bodies, they just pay/bribe police/military to control the rest, and they have 100% obedient robots now or soon. I have this dystopian hypothesis that government is god. Or it becomes god with all its power and supercomputer etc omniscience in the future and is now lording over us in the present from the future or something. Maybe a human brain is the "god" of the body, but all the cells are in complicated harmony. This government brain seems sickly, not at harmony with the rest of the "body". The ultimate selfish strategy is like vlad the impaler, sticking spikes through the ass to the mouth of tons of victims to intimidate enemies, controlling people with real fear of horrible torture etc. Hopefully government won't manifest a robot army and do that. Some anarchists think assassination is a key defense since one of their main weaknesses is few people on the top in a hierarchy. but again selfish gene prevents organization or risk taking.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 10:41 [#02568705]
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it's all just a relatively dumb meta game playing inside google earth anyway, its main purpose is so that better videogames can be simulated inside it.
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DADONCK
from here on 2019-02-09 10:41 [#02568706]
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gosh, just exchange them with AI already and make a religion out of it
I want three sexy columns that glow up in 80s neon colours when they speak
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 10:44 [#02568707]
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too bad the pain is coded to be so real though, and there's like no rewards in terms of pussy, at least as far as I can tell, dopamine from playing videogames is the only reward so click those buttons like a bf skinner trained chicken. when i die, the whole universe dies, if all of you are in my mind.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-09 23:05 [#02568751]
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that sounds gay belb. is this cos you listen to jon ronson all the time? everyone talks abuot jon ronson now.
and epic is right actually
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 23:19 [#02568752]
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"Mike Pence caught with cock in subway sandwich"
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-09 23:26 [#02568753]
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'violent revolution, as moral as it would be' - that would never ever be moral.
look thats the thing. thats exactly why politicians are MUCH MORE human than us. we think about misanthropic things all the time like grand transformations of humanity (a completely sick idea) - we are cruel cunts. we suck ok. and we call ourselves the good guys sooo easily it makes me pretty angry.
responsible politicians actually do some really SERIOUS work to make all our disgusting schemes against humanity less possible while trying to give us the machinery for a free and decent life. im sure you wont believe me.
instead you are likely to think all the things that psychos say about elites, civil society, money ect ect - that it corrupts us. every famous psycho has said those things before blowing up a building full of defenseless people or shooting a school. i just want you to look at things differently thats all belb
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-09 23:33 [#02568754]
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for example wmw is going to hurt someone one day (if not himself) cos he thinks humanity is a lie. give him power and he would torture children
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-09 23:33 [#02568755]
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not a follow up to hyperflake.
how you doing hyperflake you ok?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-09 23:42 [#02568756]
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yes im alright thanks, just very sleepy, hope you're doing well
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-09 23:54 [#02568758]
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im doing ok i suppose i could be better. to be honest im really sad. every one of my friends that i thought was gonna get smarter is starting to say more things like 'capitalism is run by psychopaths' and stuff like that. the most recent convo - freind says 'we need a total reset'
i said 'but what does that mean man? lots of people have to die..'
he tried to not respond i said 'ykno what reset means? lots of people have to die' he just shrugged and said 'yeah but after that...'
its the same every time. i actually have given up believing im gonna meet anyone who dosnt talk like this
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 00:07 [#02568759]
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tony danza. im pretty depressed get in here
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-02-10 00:15 [#02568760]
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hey ampi max, cheer up buddy, not everything is polatic's
tonight I'm full of mujadara, hummus, olives, stuffed vine leaves and spiced chicken
listening to the new leon vynehall dj kicks
how bout you
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 00:26 [#02568762]
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im just sitting around. ive only eaten baked potato for about 3 weeks (but its not so bad cos i put a lot of cheese and tomato on it!)
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-02-10 00:31 [#02568763]
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Sounds like a healthier version of poutine!
Try this mujadara recipe, the ingredients are cheap aside from the olive oil and since it has a bean and a grain it's a complete protein. I leave out the pine nuts and use a full cup of basmati rice in mine.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-02-10 00:34 [#02568764]
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oh yeah and just use regular onions, red onions are a waste if you're frying them.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-10 00:47 [#02568765]
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don't lump yrself in with the "cruel cunts" then, o wise one. and don't label me as a "violent psycho" please, just stick to labelling everything
gay, that's more your level. why such self-loathing anyway? boring arsehole
i'm sure there are many politicians who believe they're keeping us free and making things better for the poorest and downtrodden but they are still just forced into a point-scoring, adversarial squabble by the tribal nature of current politics. maybe violent revolution isn't the answer - i'm a pacifist and make quite clear i probably wouldn't even be alive under a stateless system. we're indoctrinated as a society that the system is intractable though, and history tells us quite differently. learn to dream maybe
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-10 00:48 [#02568766]
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fucking line breaks
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-10 00:52 [#02568767]
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i'm glad you're sad ampi. maybe start wearing eyeliner and practice attention seeking small cutting gestures until we all agree politicians are our greatest hope
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2019-02-10 01:00 [#02568768]
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I was trying to be nice to ampi for a change but lmao savage
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 01:24 [#02568769]
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'we are indoctrinated duuuude' you are the eyeliner boy. YOU LAZY_TITLE you see?
do you see? thats you. YOU are the eyeliner fag. you understand?
fleetmouse do you understand?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 01:25 [#02568770]
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see? thats you
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-10 01:29 [#02568772]
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haha! so all you've got is "no u" then. alright dear, i'm the eyeliner one, that's right
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2019-02-10 01:31 [#02568773]
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newman and baddiel did the "that's you, that is" in the mid 90s btw
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 01:32 [#02568774]
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its you. read the lyrics. thats you
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2019-02-10 01:33 [#02568775]
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thats you. podcast education muso head. its you dude
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2019-02-10 01:33 [#02568776]
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Guys, we're all eyeliner fags. There's 2 types of violence, self defense/offense. So here's a pro tip- always paint whatever violence you intend to do as self defense to maintain the moral highground as you hack and slash.
But a violent revolution might be mass self defense.
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