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actress + young paint = in every way a pretty boring, lazy approach in staying relevant |
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attempt would be the better word, I think. excuse my english |
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If you watch this your neural paths will probably change a bit, thus changing your mind: |
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so it's generative, but with proprietary code, not something he's built himself? does sound a bit lazy. i'm listening for the first time now and it's ok but nothing special |
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why u want your mind changed dadonck |
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It’s striking how many people can’t be alone with themselves. That some would rather shock themselves to pass the time and make it less “painful” doesn’t surprise me one bit. It does scare me a bit though! |
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I'd like to know more about the supposed technology and how it's learning his style. Is it getting fed MIDI and doing simple Markov chain stuff, or analyzing finished tracks? How is it choosing timbres, from a bank of Actress-y presets, or is it generating timbres from spectral analysis? How much editing, mixing and post went into the Young Paint tracks? |
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every sentence you read changes your mind forever including these two |
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Sounds a bit like Rainer Veil |
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Not as good as my generative music, and that's saying something. |
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Also some tracks like ai paint seem to have loads of editing so I'm guessing the generative component on some bits is "make a hi-hat pattern for me" or "jiggle this sample" rather than anything grandiose. I'm guessing his program generates sequences of triggers/notes and he uses those to traditionally compose a song. |
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did you change your mind after this thread? |
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i saw this thing live and it pretty much sucked. he stands there with a little laptop and a keyboard, with some 8k projection behind him. so video defninitely can't be live generated. he never before really talked about what he uses. know he seems to use ai. but its a mystery what he actually does with it. a boring mystery. so why does he even mention it? because its a topic. yawn |
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can i hear some somewhere? |
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sure, i've uploaded loads of albums. the ambient stuff is to sleep/work to, each album has different things done, changes to the patch or whatever. for example cwtch 5 had the midi triggers sent over bluetooth to a device at the edge of the bluetooth range so there's dropped or very slightly delayed notes while cwtch 2 only has 2 instruments and a kaosspad per song. the non-ambient stuff is more about making wonky loops and the generation is more complex. every patch is made to generate with one click then output is recorded live. a lot of the amb ient stuff is recorded to tape then played in to the computer at half speed. ambient: non-ambient: |
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Your stuff is good. What do you make of algorave guys like Renick Bell and Alex McClean (guy who created TidalCycles)? |
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one of my favorite algoerz is mark fell of snd shouldn't be confused with mark bell of lfo real algoerz kno what's up |
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I like Mark Fell, he has that multiplied pulse speed trick that he re-adapts endlessly. It's like the Simpsons episode where Marge gets a Chanel suit. Marge is fabulous, and Mark is fabulous. |
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Yes, Mark Fell. “Not to be mistaken with Mark Bell”. Newb! |
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I find what they do to be incredibly impressive, it's such an abstract form of composition and so risky for a live environment although I might be overthinking how complicated they are making it for themselves. They have different goals to me in that they bring the composition process so far to the front that it is given equal weight to the actual music, I respect that but think it can diminish the music's worth in the live environment at times. |
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Yeah that's a diplomatic way of putting it. is one of the best examples of TidalCycles composition that works as music. |
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Yeah I'm enjoying this. Seems like a nice mix between programmed and traditional composition using the programming stuff for flavour but not having it be the only element. |
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Lovely! |
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I checked out his streams, he explains what he does, seems like all the sequencing is Tidal that he sends to FL Studio as a synth and effects rack. Also hardware synths. I'm guessing for this very listenable composed stuff he has big chunks of code prewritten that he executes on the fly, sort of like scenes in Ableton. |
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Yeah I think this is where you find that happy medium, and it's probably something they do in the live stuff too. Have code snippets which are "gooddrums04" "baselinegenerator" etc that have degrees of generation but enough fixed parameters that they're predictable enough to use reliably and then mix em up and tweak em. That's certainly how I'd do it. |
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