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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-10-06 22:50 [#02562803]
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Monroe's premature death raised one haunting question for the men who were, in their own fantasy, her lovers, for the men who had masturbated over those pictures of exquisite female compliance: was it possible, could it be, that she hadn't liked It all along—It—the It they had been doing to her, how many millions of times? Had those smiles been masks covering despair or rage? If so, how endangered they had been to be deceived, so fragile and exposed in their masturbatory delight, as if she could leap out from those photos of what was now a corpse and take the revenge they knew she deserved. There arose the male imperative that Monroe must not be a suicide. Norman Mailer, savior of masculine privilege and pride on many fronts, took up the challenge by theorizing that Monroe may have been killed by the FBI, or CIA, or whoever killed the Kennedys, because she had been mistress to one or both. Conspiracy was a cheerful and comforting thought to those who had wanted to slam into her until she expired, female death and female ecstasy being synonymous in the world of male metaphor. But they did not want her dead yet, not really dead, not while the illusion of her open invitation was so absolutely compelling. In fact, her lovers in both flesh and fantasy had fucked her to death, and her apparent suicide stood at once as accusation and answer: no, Marilyn Monroe, the ideal sexual female, had not liked it.
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RussellDust
on 2018-10-06 23:00 [#02562807]
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After getting bored, bored of her crushing small animals in order for me to come, I asked her if she would mind small incisions. “Imagine you’d just trampled a guinea pig and shoved it up your cunt” I said, “I could cut small holes in you and fuck them”. She seemed unfazed. “How much?” she beamed. At that point I knew there was something wrong with my mum.
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RussellDust
on 2018-10-06 23:18 [#02562814]
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“Provocative bullshit”
“Insight at its most grandiose”
“The arch is messy”
“You can’t relate to the characters”
“Poignant and crushing”
“A page turner”
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2018-10-06 23:24 [#02562815]
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It's true but she was one sexy bitch.
TBF so was Monroe.
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RussellDust
on 2018-10-06 23:27 [#02562816]
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:D
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-10-07 00:03 [#02562820]
Points: 31006 Status: Lurker | Followup to Tony Danza: #02562803
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That's a rather dim appraisal of male sexuality,
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-10-07 00:06 [#02562821]
Points: 31006 Status: Lurker | Followup to RussellDust: #02562807
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lol where is that from?
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2018-10-07 02:20 [#02562829]
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based on the 2rd and 3th hand accounts of her ideas which ive read and seen on you tube videos there mite b significant intellectually dishonest elements in her thinking but shes seems like such a tragicomic figure u cant rly regard her as anythign but a silly goose⊂◉‿◉つ
actually i have 1 of her novels i will read at some time
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-10-07 17:50 [#02562873]
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The accounts of rape, wife beating, forced childbearing, medical butchering, sex-motivated murder, forced prostitution, physical mutilation, sadistic psychological abuse, and the other commonplaces of female experience that are excavated from the past or given by contemporary survivors should leave the heart seared, the mind in anguish, the conscience in upheaval. But they do not. No matter how often these stories are told, with whatever clarity or eloquence, bitterness or sorrow, they might as well have been whispered in wind or written in sand: they disappear, as if they were nothing. The tellers and the stories are ignored or ridiculed, threatened back into silence or destroyed, and the experience of female suffering is buried in cultural invisibility and contempt. Because women's testimony is not and cannot be validated by the witness of men who have experienced the same events and given them the same value, the very reality of abuse sustained by women, despite its overwhelming pervasiveness and constancy, is negated. It is negated in the transactions of everyday life, and it is negated in the history books, left out, and it is negated by those who claim to care about suffering but are blind to this suffering.
The problem, simply stated, is that one must believe in the existence of the person in order to recognize the authenticity of her suffering. Neither men nor women believe in the existence of women as significant beings. It is impossible to remember as real the suffering of someone who by definition has no legitimate claim to dignity or freedom, someone who is in fact viewed as some thing, an object or an absence. And if a woman, an individual woman multiplied by billions, does not believe in her own discrete existence and therefore cannot credit the authenticity of her own suffering, she is erased, canceled out, and the meaning of her life, whatever it is, whatever it might have been, is lost. This loss cannot be calculated or comprehended. It is vast and awful, and nothing will ever make up for it.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-10-07 18:19 [#02562874]
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She's got a right chip on her shoulder hasn't she.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-10-07 19:04 [#02562875]
Points: 3638 Status: Lurker | Followup to Indeksical: #02562874
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haha!
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