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big
from lsg on 2018-09-19 03:59 [#02561474]
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Or not. This is what I wrote about it, somewhere:
Considering Bert and Ernie's relationship
I think it's wisest to not state what kind of relationship Bert and Ernie have exactly. Them being a couple, is one of the possibilities then. How they fill things out exactly, is up to them. So to say, because they're not real. But I'm also saying it because it's how we should be towards the relationships of others in general: without judgment; a label brings judgment with it.
The broader Sesame Street team also leaves it more in the middle than the writer (current, but since long) has done, see lazy link below.
Labeling Bert and Ernie as gay may be emancipating for gay couples, but, for instance, less for couples that are romantic, but less sexual. The dynamic of a control freak (sorry, Bert: someone with pretty severe OCD) and a more loose character, can happen regardless of the way Bert and Ernie live together.
No label = best label
(Credit to BoJack Horseman for making me more aware of asexual relationships)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 04:46 [#02561479]
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yeah I got the asexual platonic love sort of thing from them
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-09-19 04:59 [#02561480]
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is that "bert is evil" page still going? with burt as a klansman etc? was funny back in 1997 or so
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Portnoy
on 2018-09-19 05:48 [#02561486]
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Damn, beat me to it. I remember that.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 10:05 [#02561489]
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They can't be gay.
They don't have multiple partners.
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RussellDust
on 2018-09-19 11:25 [#02561490]
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A writer mentioned he was influenced by a relationship he had with a bloke. Doesn’t mean they have to be gay.
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big
from lsg on 2018-09-19 11:26 [#02561491]
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rofl @ signeduptolol
yes, that sort of relationship. i want to believe they're more than friends, but platonic. (how else would they stand to be together that long)
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big
from lsg on 2018-09-19 11:27 [#02561492]
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"Mr Saltzman made his assertion about the two in an interview with LGBTQ news site Queerty.
"I always felt that, without a huge agenda, when I was writing Bert and Ernie, they were [a couple]," he said.
Mr Saltzman joined the show in 1984, 15 years after the pair debuted on the show."
So not just any writer. the> writer
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 11:49 [#02561494]
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I genuinely, genuinely don't care, but if progressive types really want to be going "bu... wha... how the ... whu??" in 2020 when Trump's re-elected, keep at it.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-19 12:30 [#02561497]
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I'm glad that the man with the mario kart dick will be re-elected by people who resent gay puppets. It is most Meet.
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RussellDust
on 2018-09-19 13:58 [#02561502]
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Yes that’s what I meant. He was influenced by a past relationship. Doesn’t automatically make them gay, but yeah. You get me.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 14:18 [#02561506]
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Please, carry on attempting to graft a gay agenda onto a pre-schooler's TV show. The conservatives will come to see your point of view.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-19 14:33 [#02561507]
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SignedUpToAyatollah declares fatwa against degenerate Western puppet entertainments!
plus ça change...
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-19 14:49 [#02561508]
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more likely
Hyperflake and Tony show
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-19 15:52 [#02561509]
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Imagine our velvety muppet cocks.
mmm.... Nice
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-19 15:52 [#02561510]
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xD
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-19 15:55 [#02561511]
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i dont even remember what i smoked, sorry
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 16:09 [#02561512]
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I've said already I don't give a shit that liberals find something AMAZING about foisting sexuality onto pre-schooler's TV puppets. I think it's unsurprising and creepy, but mainly that this sort of shit pushes people away from whatever laudable issues progressives push (unlimited illegal immigration and free anal swabs, I guess). As I say, when Trump wins again, you can sit down with blue armpit hair girl, and drill a hole in Ernie's ass. You know, to #resist.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 16:56 [#02561513]
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as a kid I thought bones from superted was very camp
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-19 17:29 [#02561514]
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dear grampa I am sorry you got excited about sexy puppets, here is a good web sight for you to look at
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 18:12 [#02561516]
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I'm not the one fucking writing articles, drawing covers for the New Yorker, linking to the story or making anything out of it.
You've lost your edge. I hope everything's OK at home and nobody has run off to live with a refugee, tired of the endless "smug".
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-19 18:15 [#02561517]
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yeah i hope everything is ok with fleetmouse too, i noticed a slight increase of the desperation level in the control room
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 18:25 [#02561522]
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Something's happened. Doubling down on the SJW bit probably means they've been burgled by "ethnics" and they didn't think his vinyl was worth taking
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 18:52 [#02561530]
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Are you all seriously saying bert and earnie have a subconscious effect to make kids want to be gay?
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 19:05 [#02561531]
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Adults are talking, Hypies, go and surf the lols.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-09-19 19:06 [#02561532]
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dan, are you sure you're not just aggrieved fleetmouse is a genuinely funny, erudite human with a family who choose to spend their time on the same continent as him?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-19 19:15 [#02561533]
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*a slight increase of control in the desperation room
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RussellDust
on 2018-09-19 20:14 [#02561539]
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Bloody hell people! order, ORDER!
Hyperflake, no I don’t think so. Not speaking for LoL mind you. My point is that as a kid I didn’t care or want to start pondering over sexual orientation and all that “adult stuff” when watching my shows. As for things slowly becoming acceptable, that it’s ok to be “different”, well that’s positive. I’m all for kids learning empathy and avoiding becoming total bigots I just don’t think that when I used to watch my cartoons at a young age I needed to be taught about sexual orientation. Hence it being a bit irrelevant (to me) wether those two are gay or not.
Anyway we all know many cartoon characters are gay, it’s not not something the kids particularly care or think about though.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-19 20:19 [#02561540]
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i confirm i never had the impression of watching a gay cartoon in my life
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 20:49 [#02561548]
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i didnt think much of the new shrek
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 21:32 [#02561554]
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Not the thread I expected tbh.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-19 21:45 [#02561555]
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i didnt ask, stop linking me to gay shit in every fucking mean possible, its an obsession, in not a stallion dude
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-19 21:49 [#02561557]
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think about shagging your girlfriend before making morals here,
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-19 22:35 [#02561565]
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at least im not banned from every vegetable shop in Milan
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-19 22:42 [#02561567]
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[montage of complicated equations drifting through my head]
this is all big's fault
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-09-19 23:13 [#02561568]
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*burns effigy of barbapapa*
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2018-09-20 01:16 [#02561578]
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-20 05:26 [#02561581]
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Lol
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-20 05:36 [#02561584]
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At least im not engaged and my dick doesnt work
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-20 06:56 [#02561589]
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Imagine a very, very slow hand clap, echoing on through infinity.
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big
from lsg on 2018-09-20 10:09 [#02561595]
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big = monoid (not actually)
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big
from lsg on 2018-09-20 10:12 [#02561596]
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i send my scribble to two young mothers at work and they didn't respond, so i guess they disagree
what i said is, among other things, also for people that say 'i don't care what they are!', which is an equivalent to 'i don't see color'. also i wrote it because i saw someone indeed pushing an gay agenda on this.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-20 11:32 [#02561599]
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"Grover is Hindu" claims Frank Oz. "I did it to make fun of those people"
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-20 12:11 [#02561601]
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"I don't care what they are", in terms of sexuality, and certainly in terms of fucking puppets, is emphatically not the same as the risible "I don't see colour".
What NGO do you "work" for again, where you've got time to send unsolicited musings on Muppet sexuality to young mothers? Tax payer funded, is it?
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-09-20 13:25 [#02561605]
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armchair warrior muppet bumming heats his rage like steam off hot piss
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-20 14:24 [#02561606]
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Thanks, nut-job.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-20 15:04 [#02561607]
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"I had this great sketch - " Oz drops into his Grover voice - "Sir, it is I, Grover, calling you today from Microsoft Windows! How are you today, sir? We are detecting many viruses on your computer."
"But the politically correct cowards in the boardroom wouldn't go for it," laments Oz.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-20 17:22 [#02561623]
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"Cookie Monster is made of blue armpit hair," cackles Oz.
What about other characters, we asked.
"Miss Piggy is a findomme, and Kermit is her pay pig" roars Oz with laughter. "Get it? It's ironic." Suddenly becoming serious, he leans in: "They are race mixers."
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big
from lsg on 2018-09-20 18:24 [#02561637]
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>"I don't care what they are", in terms of sexuality, and > certainly in terms of fucking puppets, is emphatically not
> the same as the risible "I don't see colour".
i'm saying it is to the people that say that
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-20 18:30 [#02561639]
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Beautiful
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