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offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-08-23 00:12 [#02559312]
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last night, despite being quite tired, i barely slept a
wink all night. my brain is exactly like my long rambly
posts; goes on forever. except, i am stuck there. my brain
is just all yap yap yap yap and i clear my mind, do some
breathing exercises, start to fall asleep, then yap yap yap
again. one of my friends takes ambien and suggested i look
into it but that stuff kind of frightens me

strange things start to happen after you've been awake for
more than two days. you'll hear a radio playing music, walk
closer to find out where the radio is, and then ~snap~ it's
actually just a computer fan. i haven't been awake that long
yet but i drank too much coffee today to get through work
and i hope i don't get there tomorrow 'cos of that. it's
hard to code with mild auditory hallucinations


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-08-23 00:31 [#02559317]
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unlucky man, i've had periods like that too. when i was
stopped my prescribed meds and started abusing
ethylphenidate and 3f-phenmetrazine i'd be up for 3 or 4
days straight. the rap battle threads on here can attest to
me being pretty fucked up

the worst i've been though i wasn't on anything at all,
prescribed or not. i was so tired i lost the ability to
speak except in odd noises. i knew it was bad and i tried to
explain to one of the nurses in here but all that would come
out was gibberish

i hope you feel better soon man. take the ambien if you can
afford it, just don't eat them like lil pump


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-08-23 00:40 [#02559324]
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ambien seems like a legit scary drug. eminem was like
"I’d sit up at Denny’s or Big Boy and just eat by
myself. It was sad. I got so heavy that people started to
not recognize me. I remember being somewhere and overhearing
these kids talking. One of them said, “That’s Eminem,”
and the other said, “No it’s not, man – Eminem ain’t
fat.” I was like, “Motherfucker.” That’s when I knew
I was getting heavy.
and I don’t know if you’ve
ever taken Ambien, but it’s kind of a memory-eraser. That
shit wiped out five years of my life. People will tell me
stories, and it’s like, “I did that?” I saw myself
doing this thing on BET recently, and I was like, “When
was that?”


probably better off sticking with meditative approaches. i
figure if i keep at it i'll crack the issue someday


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-08-23 13:41 [#02559339]
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i dont know if you keep trying to define hallucinations with
scientific terms like 'overhearing' or 'subvocalization' or
stuff like that for pushing some vanguard of science
regarding mental issues (it seems to be a costant of your
contribution here) or just to avoid facing the problem and
call it for what it is, otherwise psychosis. i used to think
i was some kind of internet researcher in the past until the
internet world melted with the real one in my head.

as for the thinking flow, otherwise mental activity you have
when you go to sleep, sometimes it happens to me too,
especially thinking about work, here's a hope the
preoccupation can diminish at some point and give yourself
rest back.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2018-08-23 13:43 [#02559340]
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Try anti histamine sleeping tablets


 

offline mermaidman on 2018-08-23 13:47 [#02559342]
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they are illusions not hallucinations


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-08-23 13:51 [#02559343]
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they are illusion the the cypress hill track, which is all
nice and something i would trade for religion but there's
absolutely nothing real in that


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-08-23 13:52 [#02559344]
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*in the


 

offline Portnoy on 2018-08-23 15:27 [#02559354]
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Not that I necessarily suggest it but depending on your
anxiety/restlessness- I’m not doctor and I’m not on
anything permanent but my doc prescribes a “healthy “
dose of benzos. About 0.5mg does the trick for me. Releases
all that built tension, I feel wonderfully relaxed and it
makes me fall asleep easily (should I choose to put my head
down and close my eyes). Not sure it’s much of a long term
solution. Your voices/restlessness night even exacerbate
when you stop taking hem after a while. I don’t know tbh.
That’s what helps me atm.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-08-23 16:29 [#02559356]
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I have bouts. It can be ever so frustrating.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-08-24 00:09 [#02559389]
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Try anti histamine sleeping tablets

i take benadryl most nights. i feel nervous about it. i've
put enough mileage on my liver already


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-08-24 00:16 [#02559390]
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Not that I necessarily suggest it but depending on your
anxiety/restlessness- I’m not doctor and I’m not on
anything permanent but my doc prescribes a “healthy “
dose of benzos


for years i essentially drank myself to sleep. this worked
super for a few years, then i was in a relationship with
someone who drank too much, now i don't trust myself there
anymore. i mean, i still drink a bit, but no more drinking
until i fall over.

i've always been nervous about benzos... so many stories
about people doing shit and not remembering it... i'm used
to having a bullet-proof memory and losing that for spots
would drive me up the wall. combine that with my alcohol
history and i figure xanax is a terrible idea.

benzos are one of the few classes of drugs i'm not
particularly familiar with. avoided 'em. goes back to seeing
a buddy of mine in college go into rehab over that and
opiates. ambien doesn't seem to have quite the same gravity,
but it's in that direction.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-08-24 00:17 [#02559391]
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last night i reliably had trouble falling asleep... but,
eventually, i did, and then i woke up naturally about three
or five minutes before my alarm went off. tonight worries
me, though, since i actually slept last night


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2018-08-24 12:11 [#02559418]
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You can sleep when your dead.
Read. Exercise. Write. TV. Movies. Spank it


 

offline Portnoy on 2018-08-24 18:45 [#02559470]
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yes, it’s not advisable. I have been talking a lot about
it with people lately, why I hesitate to “suggest it”.
It’s just begging to be an addiction. I briefly knew a
fellow who was completely loaded on the stuff because he
certainly could not function without. But he was barely
there at all.

Dope rappers love rapping about it.

Anyway, it's a temporary solution. I like recycle's advice.


 

offline Portnoy on 2018-08-24 18:46 [#02559471]
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(the real recycle, for once)


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-08-24 18:50 [#02559472]
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Chloral hydrate. Took me a few days to get accustomed to
sleeping pills. Only after three years of use (not daily
obv) am I too accustomed and quitting. You don’t become
dependent on it to sleep, but after a few years you need
more and more for the correct effect. At high doses you lose
it a tad which is why I won’t be using it again for a long
time.



 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-08-24 20:39 [#02559496]
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dont listen to recycle, get your sleep


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-08-24 21:57 [#02559513]
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the days are beginning to shorten up, did you notice that in
that mess


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-08-24 22:07 [#02559514]
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burial time.. in yer face


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-08-24 22:34 [#02559516]
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yawn..


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-08-25 00:35 [#02559530]
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had trouble falling asleep as usual last nite, but slept
just fine eventually. woke up a few minutes before my alarm.
let it go off and hit snooze anyways... but just once


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-08-25 00:36 [#02559531]
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please video yourself on youtubes after chloral hydrate. i
need to see what this stuff does. the classic mickey.
marilyn monroe's little helper


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-08-25 00:45 [#02559533]
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yes, it’s not advisable. I have been talking a lot
about it with people lately, why I hesitate to “suggest
it”. It’s just begging to be an addiction. I briefly
knew a fellow who was completely loaded on the stuff because
he certainly could not function without. But he was barely
there at all.


withdrawal from serious benzo addiction can literally kill
you... and, even if you're not that far, it can be deeply
scarring. there was some 80s band guy, i think it was the
lead singer of XTC... his wife got on a tear, threw his
valium in the bin, he got on stage and freaked out so bad he
refused to ever perform live again


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-08-25 00:46 [#02559534]
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or was it joy division

same difference.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-08-25 00:57 [#02559539]
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benzo WDs are fucking horrid, yer right to be wary. i used
to binge on etizolam / pyrazolam / flubromazepam (whatever
was in stock at chemicalwire, my supplier of choice) and
tramp cider a few years back, had seizures coming off that
shit


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-08-25 01:03 [#02559540]
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Last night I decided it’s time i stopped. The worst
symptom is that you lose all filters and say stuff to people
you’d never normally say. Writing to people etc. It has a
nasty side were you will want to say stuff you wouldn’t
normally say in order not to offend. No barriers. Last night
I couldn’t sleep and was getting frustrated so I took
quite a massive dose. I woke up this morning with no boxers
on, which is unusual. I had a “uh oh!” moment and my
first question to myself was “did I do something stupid
last night?”. I quickly remembered taking CH. I wasn’t
wearing any underwear because shortly after falling asleep I
woke up in my room desperate for a wizz. I couldn’t hold
it in any longer yet couldn’t work out how to get to the
bathroom. All I had to do was go out the door and walk a few
steps in a straight line. Yet I was in a panic, and kept
reaching the door but was adamant it wasn’t the right
door. In my mind the door was the “room’s door”, and
therefore couldn’t be the barhroom’s door. I was looking
for another door that wasn’t there. I ended up peeing on a
pile of bed linens on the floor that I had planned to throw
away, while sort of half sobbing.

I got out of bed and checked the damage which luckily
wasn’t too bad. Then remembered I wrote to my shrink twice
to complain about having to take CH to sleep and that he’s
earnt x amount on sessions through the years with me and
that I needed action. Lots of expletives. I later also
noticed I had had a rant in the guild I belong to in a game
I enjoy. I never say much there and it’s a calm and
friendly ambiance. Something about those already having
seven star Han Solo hitting less in the rancor pit.

Current Life Status: Pretty Sad


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-08-25 01:04 [#02559541]
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i was bad enough with adderall. pretty much

at this stage in my life, i like having some weed on-hand,
drinking mildly... would like to have some psychedelics
again when my life settles down.. other than that, fuck it


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-08-25 02:49 [#02559543]
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Yeah I’m with ya


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-25 06:47 [#02559552]
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going to sleep is infinitely easier if your physically
exhausted as well as mentally exhausted ive found, getting
to that state without having some manual labour job is hard
though


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-08-25 07:01 [#02559554]
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the temperature has finally dropped so we can sleep and
breathe better... and our dogs too


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-08-25 07:04 [#02559555]
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(given you're sleeping between four walls)


 

offline Portnoy on 2018-08-25 09:34 [#02559560]
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Thats true hyper. I wouldn’t say my job is particularly
physically demanding but I move around a fair bit. Looking
at my phone I average about 5-10k steps a day.

Yeah lots of a horror stories out there. A few months back I
took it daily for +- a month. And then I stopped. I did feel
anxious for a while after but no seizures or anything
thankfully. I did wean myself off it over a period of time.
And it wasn’t that bad. Spliff seemed to take the edge off
at times. I imagine though at higher doses and from longer
term use/abuse you are likely to feel terrible.

About two months back, after months of not taking it, I’m
going through some things which I will not highlight here
and doc decides to give me a prescription.

I’ve had a lot of doctors and I must say I like this one
the most. Honestly though his dispensary is like a sweet
shop and I feel like he is a little too generous (vrygewig)
with its contents.

So I’ve been on about 0.5-1mg a day for about 1 -2 months
now. Sometimes I wouldn’t use it and then it’s a full
night of eyes closed, brain awake.

Problem is, for me, it works TOO well. When it does, you
know you have to be careful.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-08-25 13:34 [#02559567]
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i just back from a couple hours nap with execellent, teenage
dreams


 

offline Portnoy on 2018-09-02 08:39 [#02560230]
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I stopped taking them. Mostly at my partners request, she
doesn’t like them. I think she’s a little unreasonable
as she wants me to quit cold turkey. Which is not advised
but she said that I can smoke as much spliff as Id like to
curb the withdrawal symptoms.

I took the deal.

So I immediately got a fever, pins and needles, hot flushes,
cold flushes, general inability to move, sweating, writhing.
But then she started getting these symptoms too, now we’re
both stuck in bed with the flu.

So what I thought were withdrawal symptoms turned out to be
the flu (which I can say without exaggeration I havent had
in ages).

My guess is my immune system was low, I caught sth and gave
it to her.

Hope it’s not Ebola. There are talks of it coming in from
Zim.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-09-02 15:12 [#02560238]
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What was it you were on though? You give the dosage but not
the molecule!


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-09-02 18:49 [#02560251]
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could be leprosy maybe


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2018-09-02 18:51 [#02560252]
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i stole the joke from mr.burns of the simpsons, when he
loses the nails


 

offline Portnoy on 2018-09-03 03:22 [#02560270]
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Alprazolam (aka Xanax)


 

offline Portnoy on 2018-09-03 07:25 [#02560272]
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My fav Burns line is from the Casino episode when Bur s asks
Smithers to get into the Spruce Moose (a tiny model airplane


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-09-03 12:35 [#02560278]
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It’s a bit atypical to prescribe a benzodiazepine for
sleep troubles. I used to take them but stopping was a good
decision I made. I now take a muscle relaxant for anxiety
and it works!
As for sleeping obviously sleeping pills are crap, you get
used to them in less than a week. Chloral hydrate was a
great help, but after three years of use I’ve become too
accustomed. Better three years than a week!


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-03 13:18 [#02560280]
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If I could go round all your houses and bum you to sleep,
like Anal Claus, or Santa Ass, I would.

Logistics sadly prevent this. But with AI in the future, who
knows?


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-09-03 13:22 [#02560283]
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“Bum you to sleep”. :D


 

offline Portnoy on 2018-09-03 14:35 [#02560284]
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It was prescribed for anxiety... but the two go hand in hand
and being able to fall asleep at night is definitely one of
its benefits and I do tend to sing about that. I know I
chose the Insomnia topic and I did say that it helps but
it’s not why it was prescribed to me and I wasn’t
suggesting it as a solution to his sleep troubles. Anyway,
I’m glad you found a something balanced for yourself.
Muscle relaxants? Hm, felt like the Benzos were doing that.

Did you feel horrible after you stopped taking them?

I’m tense as fuck but I have a fever so fuck knows what is
what at this point.

I’ll even take a bumming and my ass is virginal as pure
driven snow.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-09-03 14:47 [#02560285]
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Ah ok! No I was lucky to not feel any withdrawal symptoms,
but as my health goes I most probably wouldn’t notice. The
muscle relaxant doesn’t mess so much with my head, and
with Xanax and the likes I used to take massive doses near
the end to feel anything. I don’t miss them, most of which
I’ve tried. The muscle relaxant doesn’t make you stupid
if you have a drink for a start. It’s less “druggy”.


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-09-03 14:49 [#02560286]
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Siiiiiigneduptolooooool! Someone needs a bumming!


 

offline Portnoy on 2018-09-03 15:09 [#02560287]
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*cowers*


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-09-03 15:38 [#02560298]
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That is the right thing to do. Posterior a little higher
maybe.


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-09-03 16:16 [#02560317]
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Coming!!!!


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-09-03 18:05 [#02560328]
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Oh wow, where did you come?


 


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