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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 03:01 [#02558512]
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interesting article
im experienced a plasmatic membrane myself,
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 03:06 [#02558513]
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“stochastic Turing mechanism” is behind the geometric form constants people see when they hallucinate.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-08-13 13:03 [#02558519]
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I love Quanta magazine, it explains things that are over my head in ways I can just barely comprehend.
Amazing how the most trivial seeming functions can generate complex patterns. Perhaps even entire universes. This article turned me into a mathematical realist.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 14:56 [#02558520]
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yeah monstrous moonshine, its something that sticks in your head. There does seem to be some really elegant neat mathematical precision about the universe. If your going with the anthropic principle however if any value such as the fine structure constant was tweaked slightly all matter would be travelling at the speed of light or something and we wouldn't have a universe conducive to exist in. Either answer is very strange to my mind, things do see so finely balanced and self regulating
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 14:58 [#02558521]
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oh yeah this is about scale invariance, something something fractal nature of reality
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-08-13 15:20 [#02558524]
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you know the way constants like pi and e would seem to be random if you didn't understand their context, well maybe universal constants are like that, and if we understood the context we'd say "oh of course"
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 15:36 [#02558525]
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it really is freaky stuff, the further into this stuff you read the more metaphysical/odd it seems to get, its almost as if science is incomplete, we have an inadequate description of the nature of physical realty, utterly bizarre but fascinating
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2018-08-13 16:04 [#02558526]
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good read
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 16:29 [#02558527]
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yes intriguing stuff, I wish I had the capacity/time to understand it on a more fundamental level, but I think I get the jist of it, i.e. complexity arises from the interaction of neurons in a fairly simple mechanism of activators and inhibitors
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 16:36 [#02558528]
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reminds me of conways game of life. Im guessing if you're tripping on drugs your meddling with this mechanism, boosting the noise in the signal to create more activation, inhibitors in your visual cortex. I guess the interactions between this and more higher order brain functions such as memory is like the equivalent of accessing a debug menu in your brain, seeing primordial shapes perhaps attaching religious significance to them
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 16:40 [#02558529]
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I guess that's why on a smaller does, you experience a small effect of this Turing mechanism. You see things like minor warping of shapes and colour intensities. Ramp it up and your are injecting more noise into the signal path of your visual cortex. Its interesting how it can be analogous to music, when you have more fundamental frequencies inserted due to some sort of noise, you have more complexity, is there a turning mechanism applicable there?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 16:44 [#02558530]
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Oscillators/frequency == exciters. envelopes/filters == attenuators. I wonder if you could build some sort of Turing mechanism/ Conway game of life style effect with these building blocks, would it work to create new and interesting sounds or would it sound like absolute bollocks
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RussellDust
on 2018-08-13 18:38 [#02558534]
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Great read. Shame Turing died so prematurely.
Wish I knew what my two drugless yet massive hallucinations meant. Both lasted hours, and unlike when under the influence of a molecule, there’s nothing I could do to alter or make these go away.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 19:13 [#02558536]
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what brought them on?
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