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Math Theory of Hallucinations
 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 03:01 [#02558512]
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interesting article

im experienced a plasmatic membrane myself,


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 03:06 [#02558513]
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“stochastic Turing mechanism” is behind the geometric
form constants people see when they hallucinate.


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2018-08-13 13:03 [#02558519]
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I love Quanta magazine, it explains things that are over my
head in ways I can just barely comprehend.

Amazing how the most trivial seeming functions can generate
complex patterns. Perhaps even entire universes.
This article turned me into a mathematical realist.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 14:56 [#02558520]
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yeah monstrous moonshine, its something that sticks in your
head. There does seem to be some really elegant neat
mathematical precision about the universe. If your going
with the anthropic principle however if any value such as
the fine structure constant was tweaked slightly all matter
would be travelling at the speed of light or something and
we wouldn't have a universe conducive to exist in. Either
answer is very strange to my mind, things do see so finely
balanced and self regulating


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 14:58 [#02558521]
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oh yeah this is about scale invariance, something something
fractal nature of reality


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2018-08-13 15:20 [#02558524]
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you know the way constants like pi and e would seem to be
random if you didn't understand their context, well maybe
universal constants are like that, and if we understood the
context we'd say "oh of course"


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 15:36 [#02558525]
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it really is freaky stuff, the further into this stuff you
read the more metaphysical/odd it seems to get, its almost
as if science is incomplete, we have an inadequate
description of the nature of physical realty, utterly
bizarre but fascinating


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2018-08-13 16:04 [#02558526]
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good read


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 16:29 [#02558527]
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yes intriguing stuff, I wish I had the capacity/time to
understand it on a more fundamental level, but I think I
get the jist of it, i.e. complexity arises from the
interaction of neurons in a fairly simple mechanism of
activators and inhibitors


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 16:36 [#02558528]
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reminds me of conways game of life. Im guessing if you're
tripping on drugs your meddling with this mechanism,
boosting the noise in the signal to create more activation,
inhibitors in your visual cortex. I guess the interactions
between this and more higher order brain functions such as
memory is like the equivalent of accessing a debug menu in
your brain, seeing primordial shapes perhaps attaching
religious significance to them


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 16:40 [#02558529]
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I guess that's why on a smaller does, you experience a small
effect of this Turing mechanism. You see things like minor
warping of shapes and colour intensities. Ramp it up and
your are injecting more noise into the signal path of your
visual cortex. Its interesting how it can be analogous to
music, when you have more fundamental frequencies inserted
due to some sort of noise, you have more complexity, is
there a turning mechanism applicable there?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 16:44 [#02558530]
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Oscillators/frequency == exciters. envelopes/filters ==
attenuators. I wonder if you could build some sort of Turing
mechanism/ Conway game of life style effect with these
building blocks, would it work to create new and interesting
sounds or would it sound like absolute bollocks


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-08-13 18:38 [#02558534]
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Great read. Shame Turing died so prematurely.

Wish I knew what my two drugless yet massive hallucinations
meant. Both lasted hours, and unlike when under the
influence of a molecule, there’s nothing I could do to
alter or make these go away.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-13 19:13 [#02558536]
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what brought them on?


 


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