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freqy
on 2018-05-23 06:26 [#02552583]
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6 of 8 writers are women
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" it's an energy field created by >ALLfemale
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 06:32 [#02552584]
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*Damn my post got html cut up i used arrows. ...
Kkenndey is saying the force is female!
Ben kenobi Ep4 (1977): " it's an Energy field created by ALL living things...."
Kkennedy(2018): No Ben, now it is " ...by FEMALE living things"
They will cut that scene from a new hope and edit in that train spotter dude to say the new line with a crappy grey wig.
well i wont be surprised if it happens......
What is she on about? ?? It is a force created by all living things you sexist b****!!!!!
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 06:43 [#02552585]
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K Kennedy: " it is going to happen, we are going to hire a woman to direct a star wars movie, i have no doubt"
whether the talent is of a higher standard or not . diversity quote must be met.
why does she not say..
" if we find the perfect director for the job is a female. then of course we will hire her, why should gender matter?"
is star wars about story, talent or even making money now? Or is it simply about "forced" diversity.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 09:10 [#02552586]
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Well, Marcia Lucas saved the original as editor, and was recognised with an Academy Award for it. But don't let that spoil the idea that women have until now been physically barred from having anything to do with hopelessly gender-skewered Star Wars.
Oh and now Lando's a fruit? Imagine back in the day as kids when you used to play "Star Wars" with your pals. Who gets to be Han, who's Luke? Who's Lando? Oh you are, because you're a gay. That'll go down well with young black males untroubled by notions of sexuality.
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 15:08 [#02552593]
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Erm what??
"...it's an energy field created by all living things"
to me that = Equality! gender has nothing to do with it.
i never said women were not worthy at all.
that is what you have going in your mind.
as quoted above in my words..
" if we find the perfect director for the job is a female. then of course we will hire her, why should gender matter?"
'not' as Kennedy says " The force is female" in other words not male. That is sexist.
what do you mean "Lando is a fruit? I have no idea what are you talking about!
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:23 [#02552594]
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Fucking hell freqy, for someone apparently so "switched on" you quickly find yourself out of your depth and start floundering. I was responding more to the bit about this Kennedy person saying there was going to be a female director - doesn't matter who, but they would be female. My point was that females have been central to making Star Wars since Day 1, and that Marcia Lucas had a hugely significant role in making the first one a success. But the popular narrative is now that suddenly it's "time" for women to step up and get involved, when the truth is they've always been there. Just in a less hysterical, flag waving manner. I am not saying anything about you at all, if anything I'm broadly supporting your view.
And you don't know that Lando now is meant to be pansexual now? I GUESS YOU DON'T READ THE WASHINGTO POST
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:25 [#02552595]
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Its just a platitude to get the dollars of the demographic they are targeting, you can sort of sense it by how utterly devoid of meaning the statement is
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:25 [#02552596]
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I quote from the article cited above
"Lando says he would wipe the spunky droid’s memory if she didn’t have such a wealth of knowledge, a statement she attributes to his being in love with her."
There you have it; Spunky droid.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:28 [#02552597]
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this is much worse in my eyes, sort of quotas for creativity now, so doent really matter how adept you are at making films as long as you have the right skin colour or what ever you the guy for the job, I mean to me this is just pure racism, the job should go to whoever is the most capable simple as
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:32 [#02552598]
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none of this really effects me, expect star wars and all future media to be over politicised, when artificial constraints are put on things they invariably turn out shit, I couldn't care less if the next star wars film was filmed entirely with a cast of south African bushmen unless it was a good script and was filmed with a skilled director
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:39 [#02552599]
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"Star Wars: 'It's time for a female or non-white director'"
... Star Wars has become so devalued that sure... let fucking anyone have a shot at it. All they have to remember is to have any of the familiar Star Wars things make a cameo every 10 minutes, and then the rest is just a platform for whatever fucking issue it is you want to push. Refugees, people smuggling, trans people, a sly dig at Trump... Yay, Star Wars, directed by an amputee. BECAUSE IT'S TIME.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:42 [#02552600]
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Its all a bit silly really, it doesn't effect me as I still have the first 3 films and anything else I don't really take any notice of, as you say its already been a horse flogged to its skeleton for years, its just like watching the corpse of the horse being gangraped through a pair of binoculars
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:46 [#02552602]
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you can sort of see where they are going with it, rebel alliance representing all the marginalised sort of liberal minded people. The empire the last remnants of some mythical white/straight oppressive patriarchy
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 15:53 [#02552603]
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SirLoL. i wish you had been so articulate in your first post.
i thought you were accusing me of all sorts of strange things... not playing with my lando figures as so forth.
WT??!!! so now Lando is in love with a droid!?
right.. that's it ...My little pony needs to become a man! no not a male pony an actual man...trans pony to human male... and we need to bring more men into the franchise too. I am offended on the most highest level that all the ponies are all pink and bright purple with pretty star spots.... i demand representation and I also wanna see a robot love donkey in a new blue series....aimed at 5 year olds on Saturday afternoon. obviously I am not serious!
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:55 [#02552604]
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That's exactly it. I remember when space meant outer space, not STAR WARS XV: THE LAST SAFE SPACE
amirite!?!?!?!?
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:58 [#02552606]
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Apologies, I was using a non-personal "you", I mean one can say "one" but, yes, I wasn't clear that I was ranting to the wind and not at you personally.
STAR WARS IS ALREADY DRIVING US APART WHEN BEFORE IT USED TO BE FUN
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 15:59 [#02552607]
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maybe they are preping young males to fall in love with these soon to be perfect love droids?
To reduce fertility rate as far as possible toward the desired 500,000,000 ( half billion) as stated on the Georgia guide stones
guide stones picture...
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 15:59 [#02552608]
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thats o.k
yes it used to be so much fun and a miracle of nature.
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 16:04 [#02552610]
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5 year olds subscribed to star wars
and the lead characters are bonking anything that moves.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2018-05-23 16:05 [#02552611]
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I still think rey and luke should have been fucking each other like wild animals
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2018-05-23 16:06 [#02552612]
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Cinema Sins review of last jedi came out yesterday
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 16:15 [#02552614]
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ah its a video review , shall watch later. tnx
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 16:24 [#02552616]
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2018-05-23 16:27 [#02552617]
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Deadpool is pansexual too Whatever that means More pc crap
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 17:42 [#02552618]
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side note
i just saw a BBC video and the woman said " shit" and the bbc left it in for all ages to see.
Right, I am going to become a monk!!
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RussellDust
on 2018-05-23 17:49 [#02552619]
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I totally agree with signeduptolol. People seem so intent on saving us by “restoring values and morals” (which is fine) that they forget to actually think. They just want to point fingers and feel good about themselves. Reacting used to predomi be a right wing thing, but not anymore. Right and left are slowly merging, and in so many ways. Soon choice will be unecessary: why? Because because we will all think the same, or go to jail. Everything sanitised. Thought police to check if you’re pro abortion, instant fine: infertility. No more laughing at difference, not only is it wrong, it doesn’t exist anymore. We are all the same. No longer will a movie director be casted for their talent, quotas will be in place. Race, age, sex, height, width etc... I guess everyone would have the same salary. A cross between 1984 (but with a “well intentioned” leader, and “happy” sheep), communism, and nazism. But with great, humanistic scope.
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 20:07 [#02552623]
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"At the moment 75 percent of the people in visual effects are men and that’s unacceptable," Brennan expressed. "Our ratio at ILM is better than that, but it’s still not enough.”
"We need some directors who aren't white dudes," Johnson shared with the L.A. Times. "And [Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy] knows it, too. It just has to happen. I mean, come on. It has to happen."
wow. I cant wait, its gonna be epic.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 21:45 [#02552635]
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I don't get what the problem is. Rian Johnson is a straight white male and you hated his movie.
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 22:31 [#02552639]
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it has got nothing to do with being white or brown or any colour
That is the point.
!! freqy to outerspace...
If there is an alien (of any colour) out there that can save star wars and make all the fans happy....please land on Earth and make some cool movies!! Thank you!!
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 22:32 [#02552640]
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I saw a few more solo clips and the effects look great.
and that solo guys voice is quite alike harrison in some scenes, its pretty freaky.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2018-05-23 23:04 [#02552643]
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pansexual means u wanna do it with animals vegetables AND minerals
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 23:47 [#02552644]
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what was princess leia & Mon Mothma then, the leaders of the rebel alliance duh!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 23:49 [#02552646]
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so what's the problem again?
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 23:50 [#02552647]
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vegetables?? Nooo!!
now i know what Neil was on about!
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 23:52 [#02552648]
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oh come on ideksticalz. please keep up!
the force is all living things. not just female living things
..if you got the talent, you get the job!
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 23:53 [#02552649]
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i saw that clip hyper, but i dont know any of the names so its all al blur anyway.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 23:55 [#02552650]
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You can't honestly believe that's true given your viewpoint on other aspects of life.
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freqy
on 2018-05-23 23:59 [#02552652]
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The force is an energy field created by all living things.
we knew this 40 years ago.
which includes squirrels male and female
dogs, rats, and humans
all of male and female variety.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:00 [#02552653]
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You understand that they're using a slogan to promote the diversity of their writing staff and not canonically gendering the force correct?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:01 [#02552654]
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its gender agnostic? or anthropomorphising a force is a bit silly? then again Chewie is a walking talking carpet so what do I know!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:07 [#02552655]
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It's about as silly as calling it 'mother nature' instead of nature I guess
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:08 [#02552656]
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yes that's true, but mother nature doesn't have this connotation of political action I don't think, I suppose things move with the times im not opposed to that, I just wish they could be a bit more subtle about it
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freqy
on 2018-05-24 00:11 [#02552657]
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she could say:
The force is female too.
The force is also female!
Female the force is also. with a picture of yodas wife.
or just not bother and act inclusive. as you have LGTBQ and so on left out now too.
not "the force 'is' female"
"At the moment 75 percent of the people in visual effects are men and that’s unacceptable,"
Considering more men sit in front of their computers spending most of their life figuring out how to work out the effects and innovating. women can also do this too. but there are more men. far more. i would have been surprised only 75% . but now i can see why.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:18 [#02552659]
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What difference does it make? It's a marketing slogan and does not effect the canonical "force" in the movies in any way.
Only 3% of film composers are women, that's a bit weird huh?
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:19 [#02552660]
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And only 8% of directors in 2017. Wonder what it was in 1997, 1957, etc.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:25 [#02552661]
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Also don't be disingenuous with your quotes freqy
"It is going to happen. We are going to hire a woman who’s going to direct a Star Wars movie. I have no doubt. On the other hand, I want to make sure we put someone in that position who’s set up for success. It’s not just a token job to look out and try to find a woman that we could put into a position of directing Star Wars ... If we do want to bring a woman in to direct a Star Wars movie, we want to make sure that it’s somebody who’s passionate and really, really wants to do a Star Wars movie. We don’t want to talk somebody into it."
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:28 [#02552662]
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that sounds fairly reasonable to be honest, although I wish it was whoever was most qualified/enthusiastic regardless of gender
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freqy
on 2018-05-24 00:30 [#02552663]
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eh??? again ... read slowly...
>if you got the best talent, you should get the job <
A person male or female should not be refused because the percentage of one gender is too high.
It is not unacceptable that men are 75% of a department if they are the best talent.
However, If they are getting a job just because they know someone, that isn’t right. Or if they are getting it just because they a have male sexual organs that isn’t right.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:34 [#02552665]
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Perhaps youre the one who should re-read posts more slowly as you seem to have wandered on to the subject of men in special effects rather than answer what I was asking about.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2018-05-24 00:39 [#02552667]
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who cares about star wars anyways im boycotting star wars till they make a jar jar binks spinoff film
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