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The Force is female
 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 06:26 [#02552583]
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6 of 8 writers are women

LAZY_TITLE

" it's an energy field created by >ALLfemale


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 06:32 [#02552584]
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*Damn my post got html cut up i used arrows.
...

Kkenndey is saying the force is female!

Ben kenobi Ep4 (1977): " it's an Energy field created by ALL
living things...."

Kkennedy(2018): No Ben, now it is " ...by FEMALE living
things"

They will cut that scene from a new hope and edit in that
train spotter dude to say the new line with a crappy grey
wig.

well i wont be surprised if it happens......

What is she on about? ?? It is a force created by all living
things you sexist b****!!!!!



 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 06:43 [#02552585]
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K Kennedy: " it is going to happen, we are going to hire a
woman to direct a star wars movie, i have no doubt"

whether the talent is of a higher standard or not .
diversity quote must be met.

why does she not say..

" if we find the perfect director for the job is a female.
then of course we will hire her, why should gender matter?"

is star wars about story, talent or even making money now?
Or is it simply about "forced" diversity.



 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 09:10 [#02552586]
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Well, Marcia Lucas saved the original as editor, and was
recognised with an Academy Award for it. But don't let that
spoil the idea that women have until now been physically
barred from having anything to do with hopelessly
gender-skewered Star Wars.

Oh and now Lando's a fruit? Imagine back in the day as kids
when you used to play "Star Wars" with your pals. Who gets
to be Han, who's Luke? Who's Lando? Oh you are, because
you're a gay. That'll go down well with young black males
untroubled by notions of sexuality.


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 15:08 [#02552593]
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Erm what??

"...it's an energy field created by all living things"

to me that = Equality! gender has nothing to do with it.

i never said women were not worthy at all.

that is what you have going in your mind.

as quoted above in my words..

" if we find the perfect director for the job is a female.
then of course we will hire her, why should gender matter?"


'not' as Kennedy says " The force is female" in other words
not male. That is sexist.

what do you mean "Lando is a fruit? I have no idea what are
you talking about!



 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:23 [#02552594]
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Fucking hell freqy, for someone apparently so "switched on"
you quickly find yourself out of your depth and start
floundering. I was responding more to the bit about this
Kennedy person saying there was going to be a female
director - doesn't matter who, but they would be female. My
point was that females have been central to making Star Wars
since Day 1, and that Marcia Lucas had a hugely significant
role in making the first one a success. But the popular
narrative is now that suddenly it's "time" for women to step
up and get involved, when the truth is they've always been
there. Just in a less hysterical, flag waving manner. I am
not saying anything about you at all, if anything I'm
broadly supporting your view.

And you don't know that Lando now is meant to be pansexual
now? I GUESS YOU DON'T READ THE WASHINGTO POST


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:25 [#02552595]
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Its just a platitude to get the dollars of the demographic
they are targeting, you can sort of sense it by how utterly
devoid of meaning the statement is


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:25 [#02552596]
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I quote from the article cited above

"Lando says he would wipe the spunky droid’s memory if
she didn’t have such a wealth of knowledge, a statement
she attributes to his being in love with her.
"

There you have it; Spunky droid.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:28 [#02552597]
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LAZY_TITLE

this is much worse in my eyes, sort of quotas for creativity
now, so doent really matter how adept you are at making
films as long as you have the right skin colour or what ever
you the guy for the job, I mean to me this is just pure
racism, the job should go to whoever is the most capable
simple as


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:32 [#02552598]
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none of this really effects me, expect star wars and all
future media to be over politicised, when artificial
constraints are put on things they invariably turn out shit,
I couldn't care less if the next star wars film was filmed
entirely with a cast of south African bushmen unless it was
a good script and was filmed with a skilled director


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:39 [#02552599]
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"Star Wars: 'It's time for a female or non-white
director'"


... Star Wars has become so devalued that sure... let
fucking anyone have a shot at it. All they have to remember
is to have any of the familiar Star Wars things make a cameo
every 10 minutes, and then the rest is just a platform for
whatever fucking issue it is you want to push. Refugees,
people smuggling, trans people, a sly dig at Trump... Yay,
Star Wars, directed by an amputee. BECAUSE IT'S
TIME
.



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:42 [#02552600]
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Its all a bit silly really, it doesn't effect me as I still
have the first 3 films and anything else I don't really take
any notice of, as you say its already been a horse flogged
to its skeleton for years, its just like watching the corpse
of the horse being gangraped through a pair of binoculars


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:46 [#02552602]
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you can sort of see where they are going with it, rebel
alliance representing all the marginalised sort of liberal
minded people. The empire the last remnants of some mythical
white/straight oppressive patriarchy


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 15:53 [#02552603]
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SirLoL. i wish you had been so articulate in your first
post.

i thought you were accusing me of all sorts of strange
things... not playing with my lando figures as so forth.

WT??!!! so now Lando is in love with a droid!?

right.. that's it ...My little pony needs to become a man!
no not a male pony an actual man...trans pony to human
male... and we need to bring more men into the franchise
too. I am offended on the most highest level that all the
ponies are all pink and bright purple with pretty star
spots.... i demand representation and I also wanna see a
robot love donkey in a new blue series....aimed at 5 year
olds on Saturday afternoon. obviously I am not serious!




 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:55 [#02552604]
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That's exactly it. I remember when space meant outer space,
not STAR WARS XV: THE LAST SAFE SPACE

amirite!?!?!?!?


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 15:58 [#02552606]
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Apologies, I was using a non-personal "you", I mean one can
say "one" but, yes, I wasn't clear that I was ranting to the
wind and not at you personally.

STAR WARS IS ALREADY DRIVING US APART WHEN BEFORE IT USED TO
BE FUN


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 15:59 [#02552607]
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maybe they are preping young males to fall in love with
these soon to be perfect love droids?

To reduce fertility rate as far as possible toward the
desired 500,000,000 ( half billion) as stated on the Georgia
guide stones

guide stones picture...

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 15:59 [#02552608]
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thats o.k

yes it used to be so much fun and a miracle of nature.


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 16:04 [#02552610]
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5 year olds subscribed to star wars

and the lead characters are bonking anything that moves.

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2018-05-23 16:05 [#02552611]
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I still think rey and luke should have been fucking each
other like wild animals


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2018-05-23 16:06 [#02552612]
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Cinema Sins review of last jedi came out yesterday


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 16:15 [#02552614]
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ah its a video review , shall watch later. tnx


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 16:24 [#02552616]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2018-05-23 16:27 [#02552617]
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Deadpool is pansexual too
Whatever that means
More pc crap


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 17:42 [#02552618]
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side note

i just saw a BBC video and the woman said " shit" and the
bbc left it in for all ages to see.

Right, I am going to become a monk!!


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-05-23 17:49 [#02552619]
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I totally agree with signeduptolol. People seem so intent on
saving us by “restoring values and morals” (which is
fine) that they forget to actually think. They just want to
point fingers and feel good about themselves. Reacting used
to predomi be a right wing thing, but not anymore. Right and
left are slowly merging, and in so many ways. Soon choice
will be unecessary: why? Because because we will all think
the same, or go to jail. Everything sanitised. Thought
police to check if you’re pro abortion, instant fine:
infertility. No more laughing at difference, not only is it
wrong, it doesn’t exist anymore. We are all the same. No
longer will a movie director be casted for their talent,
quotas will be in place. Race, age, sex, height, width
etc... I guess everyone would have the same salary. A cross
between 1984 (but with a “well intentioned” leader, and
“happy” sheep), communism, and nazism. But with
great, humanistic scope.


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 20:07 [#02552623]
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"At the moment 75 percent of the people in visual effects
are men and that’s unacceptable," Brennan expressed. "Our
ratio at ILM is better than that, but it’s still not
enough.”

"We need some directors who aren't white dudes," Johnson
shared with the L.A. Times. "And [Lucasfilm president
Kathleen Kennedy] knows it, too. It just has to happen. I
mean, come on. It has to happen."

wow. I cant wait, its gonna be epic.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 21:45 [#02552635]
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I don't get what the problem is. Rian Johnson is a straight
white male and you hated his movie.


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 22:31 [#02552639]
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it has got nothing to do with being white or brown or any
colour

That is the point.

!! freqy to outerspace...

If there is an alien (of any colour) out there that can save
star wars and make all the fans happy....please land on
Earth and make some cool movies!! Thank you!!



 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 22:32 [#02552640]
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I saw a few more solo clips and the effects look great.

and that solo guys voice is quite alike harrison in some
scenes, its pretty freaky.



 

offline wavephace from off the chain on 2018-05-23 23:04 [#02552643]
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pansexual means u wanna do it with animals vegetables AND
minerals


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 23:47 [#02552644]
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LAZY_TITLE

what was princess leia & Mon Mothma then, the leaders of the
rebel alliance duh!


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 23:49 [#02552646]
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so what's the problem again?


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 23:50 [#02552647]
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vegetables?? Nooo!!

now i know what Neil was on about!


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 23:52 [#02552648]
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oh come on ideksticalz. please keep up!

the force is all living things. not just female living
things

..if you got the talent, you get the job!



 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 23:53 [#02552649]
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i saw that clip hyper, but i dont know any of the names so
its all al blur anyway.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-23 23:55 [#02552650]
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You can't honestly believe that's true given your viewpoint
on other aspects of life.


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-23 23:59 [#02552652]
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The force is an energy field created by all living things.

we knew this 40 years ago.

which includes squirrels male and female

dogs, rats, and humans

all of male and female variety.



 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:00 [#02552653]
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You understand that they're using a slogan to promote the
diversity of their writing staff and not canonically
gendering the force correct?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:01 [#02552654]
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its gender agnostic? or anthropomorphising a force is a bit
silly? then again Chewie is a walking talking carpet so what
do I know!


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:07 [#02552655]
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It's about as silly as calling it 'mother nature' instead of
nature I guess


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:08 [#02552656]
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yes that's true, but mother nature doesn't have this
connotation of political action I don't think, I suppose
things move with the times im not opposed to that, I just
wish they could be a bit more subtle about it


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-24 00:11 [#02552657]
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she could say:

The force is female too.

The force is also female!

Female the force is also. with a picture of yodas wife.

or just not bother and act inclusive. as you have LGTBQ and
so on left out now too.

not "the force 'is' female"

"At the moment 75 percent of the people in visual effects
are men and that’s unacceptable,"

Considering more men sit in front of their computers
spending most of their life figuring out how to work out the
effects and innovating. women can also do this too. but
there are more men. far more. i would have been surprised
only 75% . but now i can see why.



 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:18 [#02552659]
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What difference does it make? It's a marketing slogan and
does not effect the canonical "force" in the movies in any
way.

Only 3% of film composers are women, that's a bit weird huh?


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:19 [#02552660]
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And only 8% of directors in 2017. Wonder what it was in
1997, 1957, etc.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:25 [#02552661]
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Also don't be disingenuous with your quotes freqy

"It is going to happen. We are going to hire a woman who’s
going to direct a Star Wars movie. I have no doubt. On the
other hand, I want to make sure we put someone in that
position who’s set up for success. It’s not just a token
job to look out and try to find a woman that we could put
into a position of directing Star Wars ... If we do want to
bring a woman in to direct a Star Wars movie, we want to
make sure that it’s somebody who’s passionate and
really, really wants to do a Star Wars movie. We don’t
want to talk somebody into it."


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:28 [#02552662]
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that sounds fairly reasonable to be honest, although I wish
it was whoever was most qualified/enthusiastic regardless of
gender


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-24 00:30 [#02552663]
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eh??? again ... read slowly...

>if you got the best talent, you should get the job <

A person male or female should not be refused because the
percentage of one gender is too high.

It is not unacceptable that men are 75% of a department if
they are the best talent.

However, If they are getting a job just because they know
someone, that isn’t right. Or if they are getting it just
because they a have male sexual organs that isn’t right.



 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-24 00:34 [#02552665]
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Perhaps youre the one who should re-read posts more slowly
as you seem to have wandered on to the subject of men in
special effects rather than answer what I was asking about.


 

offline wavephace from off the chain on 2018-05-24 00:39 [#02552667]
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who cares about star wars anyways im boycotting star wars
till they make a jar jar binks spinoff film


 


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