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offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:04 [#02552246]
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I read Stephen hawking once wondered who was there to
interact with the initial wavefunction that collapsed to
generate the big bang


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:05 [#02552247]
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When i think i wonder if there is a person going to round
this corner and walk into me that often happens more, but i
think that could be due to the fact im more consciously
taking note


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:06 [#02552248]
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the double slit test

i still wanna know that if you have the experiement set up
working..but instead of observing the test in real time
..you throw a towel over the monitor and record to tape and
then view it later. what then?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:08 [#02552249]
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i think you would get an interference pattern as you are not
quantumly entangled with the experiment, i think you have to
observe it in real time to force the wave function to
collapse and force the particle to 'choose' a path, but i
really don't know, i think any answer to that question would
be bloody weird


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:08 [#02552250]
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and

what if an insect views the test?

or a bird? is it just humans?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:09 [#02552251]
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I think it might be to do with time travel you know,
information can travel both ways i guess


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:10 [#02552252]
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i think it has to be something that is directly measuring
the direction of a particle it sort of send information back
in time to make it behave in one way or another



 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:11 [#02552253]
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they view the test through a monitor i believe.

so thats wierd. not direct with a bit of latency.....how
much latency can be applied?

1 hour buffer? a 3 week buffer then why not to tape, to
view 3 weeks later.



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:11 [#02552254]
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LAZY_TITLE

I cant pretend to fully understand it


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:11 [#02552255]
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flip you lost me again. lol : P


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:12 [#02552256]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:13 [#02552257]
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hey im asking clever questions...its on wiki! : p

did i just make that appear?


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:14 [#02552258]
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The answer is to clever tho. lol


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:15 [#02552259]
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you might think im joking, but its possible!



 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:17 [#02552260]
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i was gonna say this yesterday

about rimmer, and him being unable to imagine nice things.

but lister and the cat was able to.

maybe if everyone in the whole world thought for a solution
to all our problems , it might appear.



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:18 [#02552261]
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yeah a bit like solaris where mental manifestations become
real


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:19 [#02552262]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:19 [#02552263]
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noosphere


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:22 [#02552265]
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Im going to go to bed tonight and im going to try and send
though that Richis going to make the best more futuristic,
epic tracks he has ever done, like he is going to dream
about himself wanking on a bladerunner videoscreen and wake
up and make tracks that are so next level they are off the
scale,


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:23 [#02552266]
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the internets is the embryo of the noosphere


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:23 [#02552267]
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but what if i did that and it made me shrivel like a husk
because he absorbed all my mental energy


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:24 [#02552268]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:25 [#02552269]
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yeah i think we will have an organic version as well,
technology is natural because it comes from the natural
world, if it is used for good we will be like the universal
consciousness reuniting


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:25 [#02552270]
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youd have a scanning battle with the window licker girls.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:26 [#02552271]
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I used to think it was all pie in the sky sort of thing but
im not sure a materialist anymore, the more things are
probed the less sense they seem to make so you have to find
a new approach maybe


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:27 [#02552272]
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internet will become more and more direct to the conscious
beings who connect.

no kebaords, no mice, cameras or speakers .


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:28 [#02552273]
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perhaps all the electrons in our brain are shared and one,
but travelling from different temporal regions at an
infinite speed, and its just an illusion that we are
rendered in the same time period, perhaps its much more like
a deck of cards with tube going through the middle


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:31 [#02552275]
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well we know time is relative, perhaps I died a million
years ago, perhaps my time scale is on a completely
different scale, but I can interact with you as information
can travel through time there is no restrictions, its just
the mind can conceive of this


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:32 [#02552276]
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like when two people meet is the a different ping rates but
the mind only sees the combined outcome


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:34 [#02552277]
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im almost with you on that Professor flakes .lol


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:35 [#02552278]
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I mean we are just assuming we are all on the same time
field like pieces on a chess board board, when someone walks
into your time field are they travelling back in time
relative to you to bump into you but neither of you notice
it, because of entropy information reformats itself in the
disparate time fields, don't bump into someone, think about
bumping into someone. someone is pulled from their local
time field, the timelines have more information things
become more chaotic


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:35 [#02552279]
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no matter where you are we are in a different time field
right?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:36 [#02552281]
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im only joking around by the way, but really something that
we can comprehend is going on for sure, time isn't linear in
for sure, well on miniscule scales anyway


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:37 [#02552282]
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i am probably not even thinking the same thing.

so we are not in the same time. and then therefore there is
time for this electron to reneder both you and me.?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:38 [#02552284]
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yeah everyone has their own personal time, but does that
plug into a greewich meantime of the universe, what does
time actually mean? is it just a forward measure of entropy


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:38 [#02552285]
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never mind my science knowledge is mainly from RD.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:39 [#02552286]
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yeah you know like how an electron guy on a tv creates stuff
line by line, but it does it so quickly you don't notice its
point to point


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:40 [#02552288]
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< its like asking lipstick puppy how a pc works.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:40 [#02552289]
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infact everything in the universe could just be one wave
with a near infinite frequency, different frequencies
represent the different particles anyway


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:43 [#02552291]
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everything in nature, all fundamental forces are described
as a way, the mass of a particle is the frequency of
something or other


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:45 [#02552293]
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so if i share the same electron as Hitler and
churchill...does that mean i have to live their lives?

and if so ...can i make decisions? or have i already done
that?


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:46 [#02552295]
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or do i just have to become them and view what they do
through thier eyes ...with no freewill . no choice=, no
ability to do anything just monitor through their eyes and
feel what they feel?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:48 [#02552297]
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yes free will is something I always struggle with, first I
have to ask what does it actually mean.

if you consider that everything is an essentially random
process, or a cascade of stochastic possibilities, quantum
and chemical then how are you consciousness choosing
anything


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:48 [#02552298]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:51 [#02552302]
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Doctor Who: City of Death has a guy ( the commander in the
ATAT from empire strikes back )who was more than one person
through time. Has john cleese in too.

this guy great actor he was in indi 3 too.

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:52 [#02552303]
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I get the feeling life is much more like a film that we feel
like we are in control of but we actually aren't, that parts
just an illusion, but I cant prove it


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:53 [#02552305]
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yes Donovan, i think Douglas Adams wrote that episode you
know


 

offline freqy on 2018-05-20 00:53 [#02552306]
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julian glover


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:53 [#02552307]
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Just wanted to say, about 25% of what im saying is factual
the rest is just me imagining how things might be for fun


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:54 [#02552308]
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i haven't seen it, i have it on one of my hard drives,
before the new doctor who my brother watched every episode
of doctor who available, i think he downloaded all these
badly encoded copies from usernet


 


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