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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:04 [#02552246]
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I read Stephen hawking once wondered who was there to interact with the initial wavefunction that collapsed to generate the big bang
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:05 [#02552247]
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When i think i wonder if there is a person going to round this corner and walk into me that often happens more, but i think that could be due to the fact im more consciously taking note
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:06 [#02552248]
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the double slit test
i still wanna know that if you have the experiement set up working..but instead of observing the test in real time ..you throw a towel over the monitor and record to tape and then view it later. what then?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:08 [#02552249]
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i think you would get an interference pattern as you are not quantumly entangled with the experiment, i think you have to observe it in real time to force the wave function to collapse and force the particle to 'choose' a path, but i really don't know, i think any answer to that question would be bloody weird
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:08 [#02552250]
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and
what if an insect views the test?
or a bird? is it just humans?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:09 [#02552251]
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I think it might be to do with time travel you know, information can travel both ways i guess
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:10 [#02552252]
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i think it has to be something that is directly measuring the direction of a particle it sort of send information back in time to make it behave in one way or another
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:11 [#02552253]
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they view the test through a monitor i believe.
so thats wierd. not direct with a bit of latency.....how much latency can be applied?
1 hour buffer? a 3 week buffer then why not to tape, to view 3 weeks later.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:11 [#02552254]
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I cant pretend to fully understand it
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:11 [#02552255]
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flip you lost me again. lol : P
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:12 [#02552256]
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:13 [#02552257]
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hey im asking clever questions...its on wiki! : p
did i just make that appear?
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:14 [#02552258]
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The answer is to clever tho. lol
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:15 [#02552259]
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you might think im joking, but its possible!
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:17 [#02552260]
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i was gonna say this yesterday
about rimmer, and him being unable to imagine nice things.
but lister and the cat was able to.
maybe if everyone in the whole world thought for a solution to all our problems , it might appear.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:18 [#02552261]
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yeah a bit like solaris where mental manifestations become real
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:19 [#02552262]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:19 [#02552263]
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noosphere
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:22 [#02552265]
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Im going to go to bed tonight and im going to try and send though that Richis going to make the best more futuristic, epic tracks he has ever done, like he is going to dream about himself wanking on a bladerunner videoscreen and wake up and make tracks that are so next level they are off the scale,
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:23 [#02552266]
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the internets is the embryo of the noosphere
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:23 [#02552267]
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but what if i did that and it made me shrivel like a husk because he absorbed all my mental energy
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:24 [#02552268]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:25 [#02552269]
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yeah i think we will have an organic version as well, technology is natural because it comes from the natural world, if it is used for good we will be like the universal consciousness reuniting
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:25 [#02552270]
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youd have a scanning battle with the window licker girls.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:26 [#02552271]
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I used to think it was all pie in the sky sort of thing but im not sure a materialist anymore, the more things are probed the less sense they seem to make so you have to find a new approach maybe
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:27 [#02552272]
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internet will become more and more direct to the conscious beings who connect.
no kebaords, no mice, cameras or speakers .
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:28 [#02552273]
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perhaps all the electrons in our brain are shared and one, but travelling from different temporal regions at an infinite speed, and its just an illusion that we are rendered in the same time period, perhaps its much more like a deck of cards with tube going through the middle
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:31 [#02552275]
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well we know time is relative, perhaps I died a million years ago, perhaps my time scale is on a completely different scale, but I can interact with you as information can travel through time there is no restrictions, its just the mind can conceive of this
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:32 [#02552276]
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like when two people meet is the a different ping rates but the mind only sees the combined outcome
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:34 [#02552277]
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im almost with you on that Professor flakes .lol
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:35 [#02552278]
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I mean we are just assuming we are all on the same time field like pieces on a chess board board, when someone walks into your time field are they travelling back in time relative to you to bump into you but neither of you notice it, because of entropy information reformats itself in the disparate time fields, don't bump into someone, think about bumping into someone. someone is pulled from their local time field, the timelines have more information things become more chaotic
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:35 [#02552279]
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no matter where you are we are in a different time field right?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:36 [#02552281]
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im only joking around by the way, but really something that we can comprehend is going on for sure, time isn't linear in for sure, well on miniscule scales anyway
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:37 [#02552282]
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i am probably not even thinking the same thing.
so we are not in the same time. and then therefore there is time for this electron to reneder both you and me.?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:38 [#02552284]
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yeah everyone has their own personal time, but does that plug into a greewich meantime of the universe, what does time actually mean? is it just a forward measure of entropy
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:38 [#02552285]
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never mind my science knowledge is mainly from RD.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:39 [#02552286]
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yeah you know like how an electron guy on a tv creates stuff line by line, but it does it so quickly you don't notice its point to point
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:40 [#02552288]
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< its like asking lipstick puppy how a pc works.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:40 [#02552289]
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infact everything in the universe could just be one wave with a near infinite frequency, different frequencies represent the different particles anyway
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:43 [#02552291]
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everything in nature, all fundamental forces are described as a way, the mass of a particle is the frequency of something or other
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:45 [#02552293]
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so if i share the same electron as Hitler and churchill...does that mean i have to live their lives?
and if so ...can i make decisions? or have i already done that?
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:46 [#02552295]
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or do i just have to become them and view what they do through thier eyes ...with no freewill . no choice=, no ability to do anything just monitor through their eyes and feel what they feel?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:48 [#02552297]
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yes free will is something I always struggle with, first I have to ask what does it actually mean.
if you consider that everything is an essentially random process, or a cascade of stochastic possibilities, quantum and chemical then how are you consciousness choosing anything
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:48 [#02552298]
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:51 [#02552302]
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Doctor Who: City of Death has a guy ( the commander in the ATAT from empire strikes back )who was more than one person through time. Has john cleese in too.
this guy great actor he was in indi 3 too.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:52 [#02552303]
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I get the feeling life is much more like a film that we feel like we are in control of but we actually aren't, that parts just an illusion, but I cant prove it
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:53 [#02552305]
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yes Donovan, i think Douglas Adams wrote that episode you know
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freqy
on 2018-05-20 00:53 [#02552306]
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julian glover
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:53 [#02552307]
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Just wanted to say, about 25% of what im saying is factual the rest is just me imagining how things might be for fun
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-20 00:54 [#02552308]
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i haven't seen it, i have it on one of my hard drives, before the new doctor who my brother watched every episode of doctor who available, i think he downloaded all these badly encoded copies from usernet
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