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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 16:33 [#02552044]
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thoughts & prayers™
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 16:34 [#02552045]
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just think of the anxiety normal parents in America probably have sending their kids to school its like some sort of perverse lottery
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2018-05-18 16:40 [#02552047]
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could people just not do that shit shooting up schools and shit stop it guys
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 16:42 [#02552048]
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its weird how its a phenomena almost entirely contained to America, the scale of it anyway, the levels of frustration/angst there must be terrible totally toxic culture mix it with guns and you get this shit
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2018-05-18 16:43 [#02552049]
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hope there aint a terrorist attack tomorrow in london, coz of the royal wedding
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 16:47 [#02552051]
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fuck I didn't think of that, I heard they are spending £30 million on security alone, while they take all the 'undesirables' off the street, sickening stuff especially in the same year of Grenfell, I think I will have to stop reading the news cos I know Im starting to sound really bitter and twisted but im not really
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 16:48 [#02552053]
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terrible and it seems, if they arm the teachers...then it will be hospital shootings....then if they arm doctors ...library shootings....and so on.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 16:49 [#02552054]
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the only way this will be solved is encasing your children in ceramic ballistic armour you find on tanks
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 16:56 [#02552057]
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i but i think armour is illegal there ( or is that uk?) you are not allowed to defend yourself with stab or bullet proof armour.
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 16:58 [#02552059]
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not allowed to defend yourself in your own home unless you get stabbed first (and even then go easy).and you can't wear a stab proof vest in areas where people get stabbed allot.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 16:58 [#02552060]
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apparently its legal over here, but illegal in some states in US for some insane reason
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 16:59 [#02552062]
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if I lived in London id seriously consider wearing some, its insane that its even a conversation really,
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 17:04 [#02552064]
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imagine being age 6 worried you will get shot, playing in the playground or you will get stabbed or acid attacked in london.
what the hek is going on in this world? i had no fears like this as a kid. its not fair for these children.
but we cant take all the knives and vans and chemicals and criminals will always have guns even when banned. good people will hand them over.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 17:07 [#02552065]
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yes the acid attacks and stabbings are terrible, im not a conservative however even I can see punishment is not proportional to the crime, even if it wouldn't serve as a deterrent. I really don't know how I would resolve this situation,
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 17:11 [#02552069]
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do conservative want tougher sentences?
I know Alan b'stard wanted to bring back hanging ...public televised hanging.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 17:14 [#02552071]
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yes lool they are always like bring back borstal, capital punishment! bring back the birch!
I must admit I don't care too much what the do to hardened criminals but I don't think its a deterrent I think we need preventative measures rather than deterrents that don't work. People who kill other people don't consider the consequences or they don't give a shit
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 17:16 [#02552073]
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also the reason im against capital punishment is that in the past the police pin crimes they cant solve on mentally challenged people like stefan kiszko or whatnot. Ive never forgotten that poor guy, it was sodding obvious he wasn't guilty
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 17:46 [#02552093]
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Yes those who want to bring it back, cant imagine for a second themsleves or family members being hung or care to much about others being wrongly accused. still i think id prefer being hung than life imprisonment. ? maybe : ?
if you bookmark " who shot alan bastard " you'll have a laugh on that one, great ep on capital punishment.
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 20:42 [#02552114]
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There were explosives found too.
so that's a bit odd. maybe not just a crazed kid with a AR15 or what not.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2018-05-18 21:37 [#02552115]
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the society that worships the gun dies by the gun
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RussellDust
on 2018-05-18 22:33 [#02552116]
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This won’t stop. The threads will.
Today 100 people died in a plane crash. Quite thrilling usually, but I guess nothing beats a mentally fragile loner killing people.
Call me cold, but I can’t start feeling sad, or outraged. I don’t care anymore. I have empathy for the families. I understand that for all those involved it’s a life changing event. But for us lot? We can’t even begin to fathom how much shit happened today on this planet. But yeah we focus on “moments” and then forget. I find it lame.
The news outlets will always make sure to portray victims as outstanding citizens, to entice the drama. Because hey, a good person dying is far worse that a lesser person dying!
This is why the news sucks, freqy. It sucks because it turns us into falsely concerned retards, not because they’re run by lizards.
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 22:41 [#02552117]
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hey this is hypers thread.
Did you think lizard people ran the media? lol, you dafty!! : p
rustlle, I still do feel genuinely sad, but i know what you mean it is so frequent now, so many death stories. it is overwhelming and tiring.
was it 100 people in that plane. thats horrible.
we were so bombarded by royal wedding story things today as well.
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 22:47 [#02552118]
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Dusty are you secretly watching David Icke videos around bedtime? : )
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 22:53 [#02552119]
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yeah I agree with what you say really, I did feel sad when I saw the vid of the girl saying how she felt it was inevitable. Its depressing to think that yes these threads will go away before any change is enacted, its a very cynical thing to think but I think your right about that
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 22:55 [#02552120]
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I disagree about the falsely concerned thing, I mean im not going to lie and say I shed a tear about it as its numbing in its regular occurrence, but yes I don't like it because it offends basic human decency, I genuinely wish it would stop
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 22:58 [#02552121]
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I get the impression if the internet wasn't around these things would definitely happen less frequently, you get these types of people banding together mentally festering on paranoid delusions
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:00 [#02552122]
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American millenarian militia culture specifically
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 23:01 [#02552123]
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I wonder what happened in the uk ,france germany, italy sweeden and so forth when they took their guns? did they have school shootings then? I wonder what the newspapers read back on those days..was it a case of "We are civilized now , no need for them, so hand them over." ?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:04 [#02552124]
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im not for banning all guns I think there is a civil liberties issue there, assault rifles and weapons of mass murder yes, and for sure you need to tighten restrictions immensely. Its guns but its also a lack of adequate mental health facilities, if they had a health service over there people wouldn't have to fork out to get treatment when its vital
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 23:05 [#02552125]
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Do you think governments want guns from kindness, or so they can do what they want without revolt?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:05 [#02552126]
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There doesn't seem to be and middle ground, willing to compromise anymore, you go on twitter and you see this usually liberal/conservative binary thinking that means everyone is poles apart
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:08 [#02552127]
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I think if it was the 19th century then militias would have a chance of over throwing a tyrannical government, I don't think they have a hope now, considering how heavily armed the police are, never mind the government so its a bit of a moot point. its a tricky one isn't it. One one hand you could have some sort of really tyrannical government that you want to defend yourself again, but on the other hand you have lots of paranoid people with big guns who have itchy trigger fingers and see enemies everywhere. neither situation is ideal I don't think
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:11 [#02552128]
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I hope some utopian future civilization works it all out, I think its beyond my abilities to make sense of.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:15 [#02552130]
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I suppose what id do is prosecute parents heavily who let their kids/ under 18 get their hands on guns. As you see on these shooters social media profile most of the time they are handling the guns before the shooting and making indirect subtle threats
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:15 [#02552131]
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make it a long jail sentence or a massive fine or something
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:16 [#02552132]
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It wont solve the problem but it might stop some occurances
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 23:16 [#02552133]
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its like we are just little chess type pieces on a large board being moved around. chess pieces with guns is not good for a chess master. they want to control us without resistance.
and i wouldnt mind if they told us what their objective is. maybe..
but then again if they told us say, millions of family’s will be culled.. not gonna go down well specially when we all have guns.
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 23:21 [#02552134]
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we cant go on polluting and using all these resources.
so maybe we should just walk into a disintegration booth at age 65. be more efficient slaves ?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:22 [#02552135]
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yeah I mean ive no doubt history tells us governments have acted in terrible, tyrannical ways, I think the civil liberties issue is a genuine concern. its a hypothetical concern though, I mean we have kids blowing each other away and that seems like a more pressing issue. I don't know if guns would do any good at this point in human history when the other side has such advanced weapons as tanks and ballistic missiles, you might as well have a insurrection with swords/bows and arrows for all the good it would do us
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:23 [#02552136]
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I suppose what is better is to try and change society through culture and art and discussion, but it takes such a imperceptibly slow time, longer than the average lifespan that we hardly notice
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:25 [#02552137]
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When I see things like the social credit system in china and things like how mass media has become I do really worry about the future of humanity, it will be too late before people realise what is going on, its subtle and insidious and there will be a final coup that no one will hardly be aware of. It sounds paranoid to say but im only going by what history teaches
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:26 [#02552138]
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never in human history has the power of information been weaponised like it has now, now its total power, if you have control over the mind you don't need to control the body since one follows the other
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:28 [#02552139]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:31 [#02552140]
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We already have a slight version of this over here, credit rating, often you surname determines your prospects
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:32 [#02552141]
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so its not to much of a leap that governments like the tories will want to follow something similar to the Chinese to exert more control over its citizens. you already have to start showing ID to vote
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:35 [#02552142]
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Its obvious to me the way this is going, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, I reckon a lot of this are implemented to make things more efficient to begin with, but they are technologies that are so powerful that they will be rife for abuse, I think we are lucky you know we might be one of the last generations that doesn't have to deal with this shit
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 23:36 [#02552143]
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" The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated" ghandi
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:37 [#02552144]
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Well not the worst of it anyway, we are bing continuously tracked, all our data, information is constantly being recorded for god knows what, CCTV is everywhere with face technology. 1984 is arriving but its so gradual you don't notice
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-05-18 23:38 [#02552145]
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yes I truly believe that as well, I can never trust people who don't like animals, or even slightly mistreat them as you know they must be a bit mentally twisted at the very kleast
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freqy
on 2018-05-18 23:39 [#02552146]
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blimin ek that points thing : /
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