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RIP Apu from Simpsons. A negative stereotype. not gone yet, but they are in talks. even the guy who does the voice has done interviews about writing him out. I don’t watch it any more, but some of those episodes were so very funny. |
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i just said RIP and not gone yet in the same post. but well its pretty much 100% from the videos and posts i saw. |
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suppose culture is moving so quickly that it makes a relatively young person like me feel like a dinosaur. I cant help feel that people seem very touchy and thin skinned nowadays. literally everyone in the Simpsons is a negative stereotype, Apu I suppose is a particularly lazy one I guess. Some of the things I see articles on I think is this a parody or what? I think academia has started to destroy itself in a way, if you think about it, there is a finite about of knowledge that isnt of an expert level, and there are an endless amount of people doing a a PHD or whatever, so they end up creating evidence to match their thesis, rather than the other way around, and in this political environment you get stuff that essentially rewrites history as well. |
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apu will never die |
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if you've heard of thomas kuhn's "the structure of scientific revolutions," he pretty much tore the scientific process apart and revealed it as a reasonably reliable thing. for example: newtonian gravity was scientific reality for everyone until einstein came along and knocked it out with general relativity. when this happened, people fought it: this is crazy! quantum mechanics is ugly! newton's shit has worked great for years! einstein gtfo einstein won, eventually. but who the hell understands general relativity? i don't, particularly. now we're on to string theory, and i understand that even less. meanwhile, there are people who have based their entire academic careers around string theory. some guy starts with a PhD thesis, gets published, gets a grant, publishes more papers, gets recognition, grad students to play with, etc. now... if something comes along that's all "string theory is wrong!" do you think that guy is going to just say, "well, jeez, i guess you're right!" ? challenging new theories is an important part of the scientific process, but what's lost in that context is that the people who came up with the old theories often have to outright die or retire for progress to continue. kind of depressing innit then what you said, on top of this. how many people understand string theory enough to publish papers on it? it turns academia into a priesthood. you have a few people doggedly defending exisiting theories that no one outside of the community understands in the first place, and so it's hard to challenge them. since these names are established, they get the attention, and the grant money. lots of grad students probably wind up as glorified go-fers until their Rabbi retires meanwhile, there's the real world. semiconductor factories are very interested in quantum whatever and they don't care if you're a Big Name, they just care if Shit Works... and, so, bad as academia has become, it may not matter |
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yes talking about string theory, it reminds me of this I don't like Suskind cos he seems exactly the type of person that you describe he has dedicated his entire life to progress one extremely narrow subsection of theoretical physics that he could never admit it might not be correct, which is a very unscientific thing to do |
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also he seems exceedingly arrogant |
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I read some scientists plagiarised certain theories. |
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yes I think the pressure to have reproducible effects is massive cos if you don't make and progress you don't get grant money. The one that was quite despicable was the Poincare conjecture, where that reclusive Russian maths genius spent years working on one of the hardest problems in advanced mathematics. He solved it and a few months later some Chinese professor got his students to rewrite a proof slightly and try and gain all the credit |
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Perelman quit his job at the Steklov Institute in December 2005.[34] His friends are said to have stated that he currently finds mathematics a painful topic to discuss; some even say that he has abandoned mathematics entirely.[35] Perelman is quoted in an article in The New Yorker saying that he is disappointed with the ethical standards of the field of mathematics. The article implies that Perelman refers particularly to the efforts of Fields medalist Shing-Tung Yau to downplay Perelman's role in the proof and play up the work of Cao and Zhu. Perelman added, "I can't say I'm outraged. Other people do worse. Of course, there are many mathematicians who are more or less honest. But almost all of them are conformists. They are more or less honest, but they tolerate those who are not honest."[21] He has also said that "It is not people who break ethical standards who are regarded as aliens. It is people like me who are isolated |
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He should have sent his work to himself and another by special delivery. lol. |
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yes I really respect the guy, he refused a million dollars prize and lives in a flat with his mother, because he cares about truth and the advancement of knowledge not personal accolades |
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I probably mentioned this anecdote before, but my brother had to help organise and international mathematics conference for John Moores university for some sort of mathematics software, and there was all these academics they didn't know what to do with some they sort of palmed them off to my brother and for some reason they thought it was a good idea to send them to alton towers rather than some cultural landmark. Anyway one of the people there was this Russian mathematics professor who looked like h hadn't been outside a lab in 25 years, looked just like thus perleman bloke. but he really enjoyed working out the mathematic functions of the helix of nemesis in real time in his head. Just someone who operates on a different level mentally |
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I think he was from one of those soviet era institutes that are called like number 11 Moscow maths institute or something |
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1 million? What about the starving kids? |
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when i work on max msp i feel like a weird computer. |
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I think he couldn't accept the money to do that with, because he would have been seen as accepting the back slapping that goes on, but yeah I would have done that probably if I wasn't going to use the money for myself. |
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yeah like when rimmer has the mind patch really like that |
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maybe it was a boots/whsmith/specssaver only voucher? |
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are you autechre? |
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ronnie osullivan will do a 146 instead of a 147 if the prise is less than 10k. |
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could have given him a book of Sudoku and a rubick cube |
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i cant even pronounce that word. |
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I think the conversation has gone out of phase again, I think we have reached the mid point of the conversation |
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I say it like sue dough coo |
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i'm watching snooker whilst typing your only getting a small percentage of my brains at the moment. |
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snooker seems like a sport that the Chinese reckoned they could get really good at like ping pong but doesn't seem to have panned out yet for them |
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Stupid |
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ronnie is clearly wining more matches looking at stats. so if everyone bets on him at a betfred event. how is betfred gonna feel when he wins? |
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now he is losing. 8-3 |
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didn't you like the fishbird thing, dustygrump? |
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darn, wrong thread. yes it is stupid dusty. |
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wow white fragility much? so some white @$$ nazi in dotface cant be racist anymore and xltronic freaks the frikk out? besides i bet there not even going 2 get rid of apu. they just need 2 get a REAL indian actor like aziz ansari and have him stop doing indian stereotypes instead he can do stuff like operate a taco truck, control international finance and commit 50% of the homicides in springfield |
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i know what your saying but when will it end, will they stop doing willy the grounds keeper or the the Italian mobsters or the Italian chef, |
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suppose its a moot point as i think simpsons should have been cancelled at least 15 years ago perhaps before |
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i never watched the simpsons |
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I can see how apu can be perceived as racist now, he is a lazy stereotype, i definitely think his origins are not racist, or the intentions definitely weren't. Suppose its shows how culture has changed, guess 30 years is a long time. I just worry about the future or humour or what is deemed to be accessible, there seems to be a dwindling pool of things that you can possibly use in a comedic context, |
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It's unfortunate Simpsons got hit, but you weren't watchting that anymore anyway, right? And Apu got still years ago anyway: just pandering. (Maybe, I don't watch.) You *know* it's aged casual racism if even Simpsons reigns it in. This is a step forwards towards a more inclusive society. The only way towards that society is white people giving something up once in a while. It's the only way because privilege gave them unjustly much. I know, that's not fun to hear. And maybe you don't believe it, but that's because it's been a blind spot for you, always, being in the position you were in. |
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(not addressing anyone in particular.) |
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i think he was always an ironic streotype so that's why we can blame the alt-right for this happening: they co-opted ironic racism, sexism etc. |
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(obv thinly veiling the real thing, u know) |
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The only way for this to be redressed is to replace The Simpsons with Inspiring Stories of Real Indian Girls. |
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suppose its a moot point as i think simpsons should have been cancelled at least 15 years ago perhaps before yes, this. in the late 90s i remember having an alarm set for simpsons o'clock. i cleaned up at a simpsons trivia contest.... now i can't remember the last time i watched. i do remember tuning in once, a couple years ago: nelson was talking about his feelings with bart. i thot: what the shit? nelson is a bully that says HA-ha. he does not discuss his feelings. this is crap. stupid woman crap i think the moment the simpsons jumped the shark was when they started killing off characters and otherwise abandoned the way the show resets to zero every episode. major plot developments like that were a cheap trick to revive the show's sagging ratings at the expense of gutting its future. now it seems to be overrun by PC crap, which is sad. the simpsons used to be king of "nothing is sacred, no one is safe." now we have to sift through nelson's feelings instead. HAha |
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this realy shows how messed up the society is when every1 is freaking out about a indian character while bart raped lissa in the bath room that 1 time and no1 even cared |
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what |
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freqy https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=gyHf2WbCYNc |
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jesus wept |
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I'm moving to Russia. |
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what we need to be teaching our male children |
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what pisses me off is that people who are gender benders are a relatively small population, yet the seem to be getting a disproportionate representation nowadays, if you were a kid watching that video you would think everyone was confused about their sexuality. I was of the impression most people were actually straight |
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