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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-20 12:02 [#02547240]
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Your thoughts?
In a typical bed-wetting article over at the Guardian (No one can pretend Facebook is just harmless fun any more) there were concerned mentions about a couple of companies that suffered losses due to Facebook's changing its "algorithm".
Digiday reported that "LittleThings, a 4-year-old site that scaled an audience by sharing feel-good stories and videos on Facebook, shut down today, putting 100 out of work, after Facebook decided it wanted more user posts and less publisher content in its news feed".
Also "The social news site Upworthy saw its traffic halve in the month after the algorithm change, a decline it has never quite recovered from."
Companies whose business model is (was) based on posting shit on Facebook. Firms founded on the solid principle that if they write enough articles like "I'm mentally ill — and I will not be your mass shooting scapegoat" or "The outrage over Jim Carrey's tweet is sparking a debate about body-shaming." and share them on Facebook they will be sustainable.
This makes me think of the story of Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B in Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy. Let them all lose their "jobs", tell them there's some newer, better, more marketing friendly Facebook with no cap on "inspiring" videos, on another planet, and fire them into space.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-20 18:54 [#02547242]
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Facebook is pretty evil, I just worry when it goes something even worse will fill the vacuum
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2018-03-20 22:13 [#02547247]
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Dinnae gie a shit
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2018-03-20 22:32 [#02547248]
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people have ridden the gravy train for so long they don't want to get off
social media was never something i took too seriously. just goofing off... sites got increasingly aggressive, email bombing me about status updates despite me repeatedly logging in just to disable whatever new email notifications they'd devised that week. twitter's "activity" feed is a mess, spam of "did you see ___'s tweet?" and if anyone actually replied to my shit i'll be darned if i can find it in that sea of crap. i feel like i'm being muscled to put in more time than i was ever willing to put into such things in the first place, and so the answer is to just log off and do something else.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2018-03-21 00:14 [#02547250]
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burn it down its trash
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-21 06:14 [#02547261]
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We'll have to use the government mandated and controlled, AgeID regulated 'SafeBook' next month anyway to protect us from evil perverts that may attempt to destroy the innocence of the nations youth by posting a picture of a pretty lady in a strapless bikini.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-21 07:00 [#02547263]
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Wont someone think of the viral content creators? lol. That whole section reads like something i wouldve done to pad out an essay that was 500 words short by creating an issue that doesnt really exist.
Facebooks curating of your timeline is how they keep people engaged and by extension make money. Its absolutely necessary too because unfiltered news feeds are full of drivel. Why would you want them to stop filtering what you see when the real likelihood of what will happen is that your news feed will go back to being almost wholly comprised of inane posts by those three people you sort of know but not really who feel its their mission in life to share every inane event as if its holy scripture (the epicmegatrax of facebook if you will).
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RussellDust
on 2018-03-21 10:00 [#02547264]
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I just keep in touch with old friends, post the odd picture. I’m not worried for my personal data. Anyway what are they going to do, show me an add?
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-21 10:01 [#02547265]
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"Wont someone think of the viral content creators?"
Hehe, well exactly. We must have resources to re-train them. "Content"... Hey, what are you reading? Content. How's that book? It's great, full of content, as if every page has content.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-21 10:02 [#02547267]
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Apparently they will make you vote for Populism.
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RussellDust
on 2018-03-21 10:03 [#02547268]
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The bastards
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-21 17:31 [#02547287]
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ethics of Zuckerberg
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RussellDust
on 2018-03-21 17:57 [#02547288]
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He he a lot of it could come off as banter, and I like that at least back then it’s clear he wasn’t doing stuff only for money. “I don’t know business stuff. I’m content to make something cool”. He does come off as a bit of a cock though. I’m not sure what to think. I’m certainly not outraged.
I imagine if you became a public figure, hyperflex, and some investigative journalist found some of your dubious gags here, you’d be fucked! lol
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RussellDust
on 2018-03-21 18:06 [#02547289]
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*Famous artist, writer and Eastenders actor signeduptolol’s sombre internet past revealed!*
Will you still love him after you read some the material we’ve published?
WE DONT THINK SO
Here is what people are saying:
“I used to love him in Eastenders but now I don’t think I’ll watch if he’s on. As a woman I was just appalled”
-Carly Statham, Essex
“His art is so elegant, to read this was most displeasing”
- Georges Hartnol, Surrey
“His racism was beyond casual and I really enjoyed that”
- Nick Griffin, Family Guy
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-21 18:12 [#02547290]
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yeah with the jokes ive made its true, I have taken account of his age, yet I don't think he will have changed that much in the intervening years, plus he totally dicked over the people he was working with initially in university which is something I wouldn't do
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RussellDust
on 2018-03-21 18:27 [#02547291]
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It seems like being a dick in business was the thing. To be honest it is a thing. You have to be a pretty massive dick to succeed in such a way.
He seems to have an ok sense of humour, before he gets stupid near the end, that second profile he created of some guy wasn’t too bad.
I’m not a fan btw, nor am I defending him. I know very little about him and don’t care. I do rem he gave away a fuckload of money though. Most dicks don’t.
I think him and a few others were very lucky to to be working on the right projects at the right time. I don’t think these internet billionaires are necessarily the carriers of great genius. It’s like the oligarchs who were there at the right time.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-21 18:30 [#02547292]
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yeah your right its cutthroat world in big business I guess. Yeah you cant really read too much into an internet chat of a young guy, I suppose whats going on with the Cambridge analytica thing is more revealing, the total abdication of oversight of peoples persona details
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-21 18:32 [#02547293]
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will be interesting to see how he reacts, I'm guessing he is going to ignore the requested talk with committee of mps
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-21 18:38 [#02547294]
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>>I think him and a few others were very lucky to to be working on the right projects at the right time
Facebook isn't even a 'project'. There are literally no ideas behind it. It is only useful because other people use it.
How they have managed to market themselves as a 'social network', rather than a n advertising platform, or (and you couldn't say this until this week, without being badged a nutter) a psychological manipulation platform, is a PR coup which out does tobacco originally being marketed as having health benefits.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-21 19:10 [#02547297]
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he just made a more uniform version of myspace, you didnt customise it/cock it up with your own snippets of html code like you could with myspace. I remember when I someone sent me one of those facebook invitations, and I thought whats this it just looks like a less good myspace
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-03-22 03:48 [#02547358]
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it's ironic that they call it face-book whereas it is the internet's asshole
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-22 14:58 [#02547373]
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loool yes, I'm finding it very hard to delete as its probably the main method I use to keep in contact with the majority of my friends, but I realise how much its a negative thing, so its a real catch 22 situation for me
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RussellDust
on 2018-03-22 15:17 [#02547374]
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I can use the tool just to my liking.
It’s not just Facebook we have to look at, it’s us.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-22 15:23 [#02547376]
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normally I wouldn't give it so much thought, I think the mishandling of personal data sets a dangerous precedent, I suppose if we carry on using things like facebook, we are giving consent through complicity for these things to carry on. maybe it matters little and all the data is out in the wild anyway.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-22 15:23 [#02547377]
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You think that's the case, Russell, but then one day you go out and bam!, when you get back home you remember you just voted for the Swiss version of Le Pan and now you think about it was because of that post some Russian friend of yours shared.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-22 15:25 [#02547378]
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definitely ethics start with ourselves though
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RussellDust
on 2018-03-22 15:29 [#02547382]
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Ha ha! How do you know I voted for (Peter) Le Pan?
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-22 15:31 [#02547383]
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Let't just say it was an educated guess.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-22 15:46 [#02547386]
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peter le pan? sounds like a right bastard
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-22 15:47 [#02547387]
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hey about Milton Keynes, randomly found out that the UN building in super man 4 was actually a community centre in Milton Keynes, it was such a low budget movie
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-22 16:32 [#02547392]
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Wow, nice find. I'll have to watch it again (have I ever seen it?) and then have a look, seems the "Metropolis Hyatt Hotel" was here - according to this nice article in Den of Geek A pilgrimage to the filming locations of Superman IV - Can't believe they tried to pass off Milton Keynes as New York....
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2018-03-22 16:42 [#02547394]
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latest canadaland podcast has a segment about the facebook thing and cambridge analytica but more broadly about the ethics of social networking tech in general
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-22 16:43 [#02547395]
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haha that is solid gold
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-03-22 16:43 [#02547396]
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I'll check it out
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