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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-08-20 01:12 [#02558911]
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my theory is that men turn to misogyny when they feel that they are erotically wounded by female rejection and that this is the root of nationalism, fascism, the alt right, and every form of radical traditionalism and religious fundamentalism
lashing out at supposed "bug men" is a parallel and complementary form of wish fullfillment, a dream of restoring a lost hierarchy in which you, society's victim, were supposed to have a higher position. unlike those fools you have a chance at greatness. or you should have. you're different, better. why not rent a white van and show them all
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-08-20 01:41 [#02558912]
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nerdbug = turdbug
jockbug = cockbug
and i am BOTH, bwahahaha
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-20 03:55 [#02558914]
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yes I got a tone of self hatred in the article, there are some points I agree with that are hard to refute but on the whole it seems pretty hateful and destructive and yeah as you said its perhaps a psychological transposition of what they want to say to women
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-20 04:10 [#02558915]
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there are certain people who irritate me, if Zuckerberg is an archetype then yeah I sort of know what they are saying, soulless people disconnected from nature, but its incorrect to make sweeping generalisations, its what fascists throughout history have done
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-08-20 04:20 [#02558916]
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well as I see it this dipshit has just read Fight Club and doesn't understand that Tyler Durden is a symptom and not a prescription
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-08-20 04:55 [#02558920]
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yes actually it is pretty much exactly like a copy of the opening of fight club
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-08-20 15:16 [#02558943]
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im more likely studying than reading that.
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2018-08-21 00:29 [#02558989]
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nah bugman is just a folk anthropological term for the real phenomenon of ppl who in the late capitalist era derive there identity from pop culture and consumption of mass media and consumerism and keep there thoughts comfortablely near the center of there overton window and never do any serious critique of the ideas theyve absorbed from said culture and media i think ur mistaken if u think the bugmen r lashed out against if anything they r pittyed or at most a target of gentle lols in short the bugman is a person whod buy a game of thrones lamp
as 4 the idea of men lashing against bugmen (or the idea of men turning 2 right wing ideologys which kind of seems separate) cuz of there status as a sexualy undesirable it sounds similar 2 the theory of women turning in2 twiter feminism and or lesbianism cuz they not desired by men in that its based upon assumptions abt a persons thoughts and mindstate not that id say theres NO truth 2 either side of that psychoanalytic coin but theres probably other explainations that dont require 1 call the psychic hotline
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-08-21 02:02 [#02558990]
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what kind of clueless sheltered little baby do you have to be for your biggest concern to be that some guy with an avengers t shirt and an iphone ate at subway
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2018-08-21 03:23 [#02558991]
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the guy in a dc comic shirt
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2018-08-21 03:43 [#02558992]
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btw i just finished reading a interesting sci fi novel written in 1957 THE GLASS BEES by ernst jünger most of the book takes the form of inner dialogue and reminiscences of a former horse cavalry guy during a job interview at a hi tech micro robotics/film studio company wherein he trys 2 come 2 terms with the rapid technological and social changes occuring in his society
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-08-21 13:56 [#02559008]
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Ha! Pretty much, yes. I can imagine Nietzsche being a real Aquaman stan.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-08-21 13:57 [#02559009]
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That sounds good, reminds me of Vonnegut's Player Piano, and from the same time frame, though without that neat framing device.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2018-08-22 07:01 [#02559130]
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If we can put aside the references to old dead white philosophers...
We are now entering a new era of more power to women (which is a good thing) but we better not make it happen too fast, because it will disrupt in some ways the usual balance of power and then lead to 'some'
form of 'revolution'.
And you how revolution tend to end... (see French revolution)
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-08-22 13:28 [#02559257]
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wasn't the French revolution awesome though, many aristocrats were introduced to mr. choppy
one might say that all revolutionary / counterrevolutionary political concepts and forces since 1789 are ripples from that event
speaking of books this one is very good
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2018-08-29 03:23 [#02559781]
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the book which REALLY predicted trunp
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wavephace
from off the chain on 2018-08-29 03:43 [#02559782]
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so what are ur guyses top COMFY authors
ive been reading jean staffords collected storys and after the 1st story i got worryed it was gonna be a bunch of "society" type storys like f scott fitzgerald who i just finisheds 800 page story collection and got a lil burnt out on that kinda stuff but these storys are actually rly nice and comfy and she is very deliberate and poetic with the words too it won the pulitzer prize deservedly
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-09 12:38 [#02560755]
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abandoned after the first chapter
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-10 21:25 [#02560852]
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John Gray - Seven Types of Atheism
I've gone back and forth with this guy, every time I try to read one of his books I'll be fascinated then eventually roll my eyes at some dealbreaker non sequitur, polemic ax-grinding, or tendentious interpretation and bail, but this one looks really good...
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2018-09-10 22:29 [#02560858]
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i read straw dogs when it came out and i was trying out my angsty teen philosopher pose, i remember rolling my eyes even then but i doubt i had more than a superficial understanding of his points
just bought the inverted world by christopher priest as an audiobook, been treating myself to some of the sf masterworks series
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RussellDust
on 2018-09-10 22:34 [#02560860]
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Boris Vian, K Dick come to mind.
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RussellDust
on 2018-09-10 22:37 [#02560861]
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A syntax error in an “look at me, I read” thread is a bit much, wavematey! I don’t believe you read at all!
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-11 00:20 [#02560863]
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Ah, Straw Dogs. I've made a few runs at that. I always get to the chapter "Science's Irrational Origins" where he's whipping the corpse of Galileo with the ghost of Feyerabend and then give up...
As portrayed by its fundamentalists, science is the supreme expression of reason. They tell us that if it rules our lives today, it is only after a long struggle in which it was ceaselessly opposed by the Church, the state and every kind of irrational belief. Having arisen in the struggle against superstition, science – they say – has become the embodiment of rational inquiry.
This fairy tale conceals a more interesting history. The origins of science are not in rational inquiry but in faith, magic and trickery. Modern science triumphed over its adversaries not through its superior rationality but because its late-medieval and early-modern founders were more skilful than them in the use of rhetoric and the arts of politics.
Interesting, but so what? It's like complaining that agriculture's origins lie in hunter-gatherer societies, and the first farmer had a really nice hat that everyone liked, which tells you nothing about agriculture's virtues or vices, or why we've kept at it. Pointing out fallacies on the internet has earned a bad name but this is rather transparently an example of the genetic fallacy.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-09-11 21:56 [#02560911]
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Zilty Book Club (123)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2018-09-11 23:44 [#02560916]
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Started reading the new Bob Woodward book on Trump, 10% in so far
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-11 23:58 [#02560917]
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Got a copy of that last night and I'm about that far in. It's vastly entertaining, and provides some insights into the politics. God, we're fucked. They knew what he was like and they helped him get in anyways.
Bannon is an interesting character, and is almost certainly one of the guys who talked to Woodward.
I loved the bit where Bannon is disgusted with Trump wolfing down hot dogs like an 11 year old.
Isn't it crazy and sad that it takes a 75 year old guy from the Watergate era to do this kind of investigative journalism?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2018-09-12 00:56 [#02560920]
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Did you also read Fire and Fury? I enjoyed that. I also listen to the excellent Mueller She Wrote podcast :)
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2018-09-13 00:29 [#02560948]
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I started it but at the time I was feeling saturated by the endless Trump circus so I set it aside...
Actually I've set the Woodward aside for the moment too because I just got a copy of Age of Anger by Pankaj Mishra. This book is the motherlode, the axis, the alpha and omega of analyzing Our Fucked Up Era.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2018-09-13 21:21 [#02560977]
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Will check that out, cheers Tony
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-01-04 02:38 [#02592533]
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daniel ellsberg - the doomsday machine
only 100 pages in but i'm learn of US plans for arrmageddon in the most stark, methodical detail. recommended if you want The Fear
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-01-04 02:43 [#02592536]
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yeah the problem with nuclear arsenals I reckon is when irrational actors get hold of them, your only have to have one religious death cult with a lot of nukes to destroy civilization
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-01-04 02:49 [#02592537]
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*learning not learn, that makes it sound like the cat / cheezburger meme
did you know two relatively small (1.1 megaton) nukes would constitute more explosive power than every single bomb dropped in ww2?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-01-04 03:19 [#02592544]
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More likely a book-shelf clubLAZY_TITLE
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