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offline mohamed on 2018-01-12 20:22 [#02542278]
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overthinking. overproducing. over eating. is the ruination
of humanity.


 

offline welt on 2018-01-12 22:45 [#02542307]
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You need to say "NO!"/"Nope" and just stop the process 😮


 

offline mohamed on 2018-01-12 22:48 [#02542308]
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sometimes the process doesnt stop, when its actual
preoccupation and you just have to surf it while you come
out of it thanks to the right decisions you take


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 23:00 [#02542309]
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yeah over thinking definitley leads to neurotic behaviour, i
see it in my mum. My mate Colin is the exact opposite he
never ever over thinks things, probably why he has put
diesel in his petrol car and stuff like that


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 23:03 [#02542310]
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I was much happier as a child, i used to just do stuff and
not consider the consequence, I definitely have a tendency
to overthink but im trying to nip in in the bud, its not
healthy


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-01-13 00:12 [#02542312]
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am chronic overthinkist


 

offline mohamed on 2018-01-13 11:54 [#02542324]
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are you full of preoccupations or what, my problem is that i
need to find something to lose my mind about even when im
fine. but i see when i do that and usually interrupt, drive
the thinking flow in the direction i want. an old man told
me i need to learn to stay well.


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Readers' Wives (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-13 13:47 [#02542328]
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Mindfulness.

I try it when I remember to, and it is "good" to be in the
moment and not projecting back and forth. But very
difficult, I find. The other day I thought I was being
"mindful" and then realised I'd been thinking about the
Beastie Boys on the side. Hard to,,, stop the chatter...


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-13 13:49 [#02542330]
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yes focus is something ive struggled with for years, as I
age I'm getting slightly better again, I think its helped
that I'm not pumping myself full of sugary drinks anymore.


 

offline welt on 2018-01-13 18:05 [#02542348]
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The complete cessation of chatter is an ideal which
is very rarely achieved. It's completely okay to think about
the Beastie Boys in some corner of your mind, as long as you
keep on shoving it to the side and try to focus


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-13 18:20 [#02542349]
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I think its why people drink so much, to get rid of that
incessant internal dialogue


 

offline welt on 2018-01-13 18:30 [#02542350]
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I actually have the impression that when I get drunk the
internal dialogue just changes, other voices get
stronger/weaker. And I can't carry a longer thought to its
conclusion but jump from this to that topic. VERY
frustrating.


 

offline SignedUpToLOL from Readers' Wives (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-13 20:54 [#02542351]
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Well yes, I think this is a good tip, because one can become
quickly demoralised and think "I've failed at .. not
thinking about anything" when, as you say, such a state is
very rare. So yes, I will strive to stay in the present and
not beat myself up if I find myself wondering if there's a
Hot Sauce Committee part one.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-01-14 03:21 [#02542356]
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my brain never, ever shuts up. it's essentially the cause of
my insomnia. three hours chattering with myself about
nonsense despite really, really, not wanting to. alcohol
helps.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2018-01-14 03:23 [#02542357]
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have you guys heard of subvocalization? essentially, when you
talk to yourself, your larynx are still moving -- or that's
how most people do it, anyways. apparently you can learn to
disconnect it...

in any case, i'll chant and hum with my breathing because it
seems to jam out the chatter better than most anything. i
figure it's because i only have one set of larynx and
disrupting my own subvocalization disrupts the chatter....

not a bad theory, right?


 

offline mohamed on 2018-01-14 10:37 [#02542376]
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you dont come to a point where you say, fuck this bullshit,
i really need to sleep?


 

offline mohamed on 2018-01-14 10:46 [#02542377]
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the brain does not have autmatic pilot mate. it is a
dangerour theory to carry about


 

offline welt on 2018-01-14 12:34 [#02542378]
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Yup, not a bad theory.

But an incomplete one, I would guess. Humming/chanting/music
is so immemorially old that even animals have music.

So my guess would be that (a) yes, occupying the larynx with
humming blocks out to some extent the
thought-chatter-processes connected with it ... but also
that (b) humming/chanting/music as a pre-cognitive,
sub-cognitive, animalistic, more instinctual, primitive
mode-of-understanding blocks out the less-primitive
more-advanced mode-of-understanding of verbal-chatter.


 

offline mohamed on 2018-01-14 17:15 [#02542395]
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least you can do now is try and hum your thoughts into your
larinx or whatever, psychotic style


 

offline mohamed on 2018-01-14 17:17 [#02542396]
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i do recognize you come up with interesting bits of
information at times, but you use them wrongly


 

offline mohamed on 2018-01-14 17:19 [#02542397]
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i have the impression you are always fascinated by nothing
but the shittiest experiences a man can endure mentally


 

offline mohamed on 2018-01-14 17:31 [#02542398]
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im curious how would you dribble me now


 

offline mohamed on 2018-01-14 17:34 [#02542399]
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you regurarly post shit only psychotics can recognize. are
you asking answers to your own sickness to the internet?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2018-01-16 19:29 [#02542468]
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There is no such thing as overthinking. There is only bad,
confused, unstructured and illogical thinking. That goes
hand in hand with an inabillity to read and write.


 

offline mohamed on 2018-01-16 19:32 [#02542469]
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true that, there is also good thinking, but i didnt know how
to say that


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-01-16 20:46 [#02542475]
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Gosh, Monoid made more sense than anyone, and in just a few
words!


 

offline RussellDust on 2018-01-16 20:48 [#02542476]
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That did make me laugh.

I don’t think my larynx operates when I talk to myself.
Unless it’s out loud ffs. But this thread has made me
become way to aware of it all of a sudden.



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-16 21:25 [#02542477]
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overthink
əʊvəˈθɪŋk/
verb
gerund or present participle: overthinking
think about (something) too much or for too long.
"I often wonder if women tend to overthink situations



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-16 21:29 [#02542478]
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sorry just being a bit pedantic, what monoid is saying I
just use overthinking as a catch all, synonym for that sort
of thing


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2018-01-16 21:36 [#02542479]
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Well, thats basically what philosophy is. People thinking
about the same stuff for over 2000 years...


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-16 21:44 [#02542480]
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LAZY_TITLE

I dont know if these things are inclusivley disordered,
probably in schizophrenia, but there are probably a whole
gammut of variations.



 


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