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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-12 20:22 [#02542278]
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overthinking. overproducing. over eating. is the ruination of humanity.
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welt
on 2018-01-12 22:45 [#02542307]
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You need to say "NO!"/"Nope" and just stop the process 😮
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-12 22:48 [#02542308]
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sometimes the process doesnt stop, when its actual preoccupation and you just have to surf it while you come out of it thanks to the right decisions you take
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 23:00 [#02542309]
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yeah over thinking definitley leads to neurotic behaviour, i see it in my mum. My mate Colin is the exact opposite he never ever over thinks things, probably why he has put diesel in his petrol car and stuff like that
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-12 23:03 [#02542310]
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I was much happier as a child, i used to just do stuff and not consider the consequence, I definitely have a tendency to overthink but im trying to nip in in the bud, its not healthy
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2018-01-13 00:12 [#02542312]
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am chronic overthinkist
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-13 11:54 [#02542324]
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are you full of preoccupations or what, my problem is that i need to find something to lose my mind about even when im fine. but i see when i do that and usually interrupt, drive the thinking flow in the direction i want. an old man told me i need to learn to stay well.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-13 13:47 [#02542328]
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Mindfulness.
I try it when I remember to, and it is "good" to be in the moment and not projecting back and forth. But very difficult, I find. The other day I thought I was being "mindful" and then realised I'd been thinking about the Beastie Boys on the side. Hard to,,, stop the chatter...
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-13 13:49 [#02542330]
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yes focus is something ive struggled with for years, as I age I'm getting slightly better again, I think its helped that I'm not pumping myself full of sugary drinks anymore.
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welt
on 2018-01-13 18:05 [#02542348]
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The complete cessation of chatter is an ideal which is very rarely achieved. It's completely okay to think about the Beastie Boys in some corner of your mind, as long as you keep on shoving it to the side and try to focus
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-13 18:20 [#02542349]
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I think its why people drink so much, to get rid of that incessant internal dialogue
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welt
on 2018-01-13 18:30 [#02542350]
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I actually have the impression that when I get drunk the internal dialogue just changes, other voices get stronger/weaker. And I can't carry a longer thought to its conclusion but jump from this to that topic. VERY frustrating.
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-13 20:54 [#02542351]
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Well yes, I think this is a good tip, because one can become quickly demoralised and think "I've failed at .. not thinking about anything" when, as you say, such a state is very rare. So yes, I will strive to stay in the present and not beat myself up if I find myself wondering if there's a Hot Sauce Committee part one.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2018-01-14 03:21 [#02542356]
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my brain never, ever shuts up. it's essentially the cause of my insomnia. three hours chattering with myself about nonsense despite really, really, not wanting to. alcohol helps.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2018-01-14 03:23 [#02542357]
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have you guys heard of subvocalization? essentially, when you talk to yourself, your larynx are still moving -- or that's how most people do it, anyways. apparently you can learn to disconnect it...
in any case, i'll chant and hum with my breathing because it seems to jam out the chatter better than most anything. i figure it's because i only have one set of larynx and disrupting my own subvocalization disrupts the chatter....
not a bad theory, right?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-14 10:37 [#02542376]
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you dont come to a point where you say, fuck this bullshit, i really need to sleep?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-14 10:46 [#02542377]
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the brain does not have autmatic pilot mate. it is a dangerour theory to carry about
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welt
on 2018-01-14 12:34 [#02542378]
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Yup, not a bad theory.
But an incomplete one, I would guess. Humming/chanting/music is so immemorially old that even animals have music.
So my guess would be that (a) yes, occupying the larynx with humming blocks out to some extent the thought-chatter-processes connected with it ... but also that (b) humming/chanting/music as a pre-cognitive, sub-cognitive, animalistic, more instinctual, primitive mode-of-understanding blocks out the less-primitive more-advanced mode-of-understanding of verbal-chatter.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-14 17:15 [#02542395]
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least you can do now is try and hum your thoughts into your larinx or whatever, psychotic style
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-14 17:17 [#02542396]
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i do recognize you come up with interesting bits of information at times, but you use them wrongly
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-14 17:19 [#02542397]
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i have the impression you are always fascinated by nothing but the shittiest experiences a man can endure mentally
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-14 17:31 [#02542398]
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im curious how would you dribble me now
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-14 17:34 [#02542399]
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you regurarly post shit only psychotics can recognize. are you asking answers to your own sickness to the internet?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2018-01-16 19:29 [#02542468]
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There is no such thing as overthinking. There is only bad, confused, unstructured and illogical thinking. That goes hand in hand with an inabillity to read and write.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2018-01-16 19:32 [#02542469]
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true that, there is also good thinking, but i didnt know how to say that
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RussellDust
on 2018-01-16 20:46 [#02542475]
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Gosh, Monoid made more sense than anyone, and in just a few words!
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RussellDust
on 2018-01-16 20:48 [#02542476]
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That did make me laugh.
I don’t think my larynx operates when I talk to myself. Unless it’s out loud ffs. But this thread has made me become way to aware of it all of a sudden.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-16 21:25 [#02542477]
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overthink əʊvəˈθɪŋk/ verb gerund or present participle: overthinking think about (something) too much or for too long. "I often wonder if women tend to overthink situations
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-16 21:29 [#02542478]
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sorry just being a bit pedantic, what monoid is saying I just use overthinking as a catch all, synonym for that sort of thing
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2018-01-16 21:36 [#02542479]
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Well, thats basically what philosophy is. People thinking about the same stuff for over 2000 years...
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-16 21:44 [#02542480]
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LAZY_TITLE
I dont know if these things are inclusivley disordered, probably in schizophrenia, but there are probably a whole gammut of variations.
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freqy
on 2018-01-17 20:52 [#02542501]
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LAZY_TITLE
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freqy
on 2018-01-17 20:58 [#02542502]
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2018-01-17 23:27 [#02542503]
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