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yes its the jack in/outs im most concerned about, every audio device ive ever had they seem to go fruity, i dont think they are optimally designed for longevity, someone needs to invent a new way |
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there may even be a monitor slect switch near the master faders you have to press depress that 50 times too. as that is also likely inline or there maybe buttons that operate relays that are in-line. you may here a mechanical clicking sound when you push these. (pfl or solo may use relays) basically flick and press and push and twist everything !!!! insert xlrs and jacks and phonos in out in out for a fair while! helps get rid of oxidisation i would avoid contact cleaner sprays unless needed. last resort, some of these sprays can make things worse. |
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"The phone connector was invented for use in telephone switchboards in the 19th century and is still widely used." |
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yes i can imagine they could cause oxidisation issues cleaning fluids |
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"The current form of the switchboard-plug was patented prior to 1902, when Henry Pl. Clausen received a patent on an improved design" |
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its amazing how many contacts (buttons pots insert, selectors/ routing, faders jack connectors, pfl ) are in line of a signal path if they are not gold plated you can have all sorts of issues. that is why it is best to have a mixer as a monitor and for feeding to FOH but split before all that and record multi-track into a PC that way you avoid hundreds if not thousands of weak links/ contacts. direct into a PC means cleanest sound , you can always colourise later if you want in or out the box. |
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someone could probably make a business out of coasting all these contacts with some sort of inert metal like gold |
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yeah your right, it something you dont think about, just one gremlin in the works, also the room it is in has humidity problems, i have a dehumidifier now |
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also op amps there are 3-6 op amps on each channel offering noise and distortion at least 2 in use for line and fader out only then to the group channels then to master , there could be 6 -10 in use not to mention the eq op amps you also select. for each sound you input. if the op amps are shizen. the result is not gonna be the best. thats why direct to the pc is best for recording. just saying |
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If you think about it logically,the simplest device with fewest, highest quality parts, simplest design would have the best sound |
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well its good news for me because i dont have the cash to do anything different at the mo! but i kind of like the idea of getting the most out of limited stuff, |
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I can imagine a mixer in a humidity controlled box, simplest electronic path you can make, will the functions you need, simpler the better |
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removable biscuit crumb tray |
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id make the faders have a digital touch interface so your not actually touching any internal parts externally |
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what would you fade? |
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vcas? motrorised pots? you mean to control an analogue desk? |
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you mean parameters in plugins and patches. |
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yes i suppose motorised pots would complicate things which isnt good, is it a good enough trade off? |
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i was trying to keep your analogue synths sounding nice for your recording. |
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depends on how fast you want them to turn and cost and so forth |
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have a digital interface for the faders which physically altered by a motor controlled by the signal |
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or something simpler like a solenoid |
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need a rephrase on that lol :) |
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you wouldnt want to have something with magnetic fields in there if you could help it i dont suppose |
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yeah sorry i knew i wasnt phrasing it well, one of the advantages of having a digital controller would be that you could set it to exponential or linear signal, stuff like that you could even make it move really quickly if you had something like a solenoid, do real physical gating |
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probably out your price range also |
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yeah vcas are fast too. but they colourise the sound. thing is you can do all this in the box far far far far cheaper. |
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yes its true, its completely unnecessary, but its fun to brainstorm |
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I like the humidity control idea. maybe a vacuum sealed desk digital controlled? they make vacuum blenders now for making...well...blended foods to reduce oxygen getting mixed in / oxidisation |
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probably be cheaper to have gold plated contrcts throughout and biscuit crumb tray. |
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yes could have a little warm air thing blowing over the components or something. im not sure how humidity works in electronics, something like that might be handy to save on maintenance costs |
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Or so to not worry about humidity so much use sealed relays with gold contacts inside for the audio signal path. the switchs on the front panel are then not so much a bother regards sound quality they only need give a 0 or 1 on /off momentary, so they either work or do not. |
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yes thats a more elgant solution, the least components the better |
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the faders are a bit of an issue with biscuits and humidity tho. unless we use the touch screen to control motorised sealed pots. |
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lol why are we designing a mixer for use under water? |
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yes least components |
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least contacts , shielded wherever possible. |
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the digital touch screen is great, but it has less tactile feedback that traditional fader, would have to make it really good in another way |
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yeah i hate touch screen how about magnet fader caps where the fader itself is sealed in a case below.?. |
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we would need a heated housed annex for your bourbon biscuits, and a cu holder for your beverage of choice |
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yeah you mean like that effect where you can see someones feet in a tent or your fingers through a deflated balloon? |
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something to keep moisture, crumbs, dirt out |
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lol a motorised cup holder midi controlleds. maybe all faders are motorised , protected from moisture and crumbs but you feel the magnet fader cap on a front glass panel. might make a squeeky noise. unless olive oil is used? |
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yes im starting to see why there hasnt been much change in the designs of mixing consoles for a long time lol |
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so glass mixing desk top metal magnet fader caps on olive oil underneath sealed motorised faders move the magnet caps , controlled by midi or osc. |
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I think there are some good avenues of thought though, it would be great 9if they all came with a clam shell design so you coupld open them uy and maintain them without using dozens of screws |
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