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RussellDust
on 2017-12-14 21:49 [#02539976]
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That sounds like something David Brent would say! :P
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RussellDust
on 2017-12-14 21:57 [#02539977]
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Of course I agree, who wouldn’t. Yet I would argue that Thomas Mann is touching on something when he talks about illness:
Nietzsche's influence on Mann runs deep in his work, especially in Nietzsche's views on decay and the proposed fundamental connection between sickness and creativity. Mann held that disease is not to be regarded as wholly negative. In his essay on Dostoyevsky we find: "but after all and above all it depends on who is diseased, who mad, who epileptic or paralytic: an average dull-witted man, in whose illness any intellectual or cultural aspect is non-existent; or a Nietzsche or Dostoyevsky. In their case something comes out in illness that is more important and conductive to life and growth than any medical guaranteed health or sanity... in other words: certain conquests made by the soul and the mind are impossible without disease, madness, crime of the spirit."
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-14 22:12 [#02539980]
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well that wasnt in a row, but the 10th of the 5th series
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-14 22:23 [#02539982]
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ah yeah, I'm not sure I could do that either, perhaps 10 years ago
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welt
on 2017-12-14 22:44 [#02539983]
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I actually agree quite a lot. I only said that illness is terrible. I intentionally didn't say that it is per se useless or serves no positive function at all.
... I'm very glad that I didn't have to go through any super serious illnesses and I'm not talking about those. But in the last 15 years there were 4-5 times when I got ill for 2-3 painful weeks (stomatitis, tonsillitis, flu, ..) and it always served a function for me. It was always the same pattern. My usual state of mind tends to be slightly paranoid and anxious, but very far from depressed. But rarely it happens that I get into a depressed spiral of thoughts. Then this happens. (1) I eat very little, I exercise a lot and worry a lot so the activity of the immune-system goes down; (2) then I get some painful illness; (3) then I just feel the primitive undeniable reality of the pain .. and THEN (4) I feel like the pain is a wake-up-call that I shouldn't spend time worrying .. and THEN (5) I'm back to normal. ...I don't want to over-generalize and claim that ALL illnesses have similar functions, but it has happened to me about 5 times, now. All I can do is note that these not too extreme illnesses always served as a positive "wake-up-call" to me.
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RussellDust
on 2017-12-14 22:54 [#02539984]
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Yeah that’s one of the many reasons. I’ve been ill, I’d say quite ill (chronically) for about 15 years, and when I’ve been at the harshest stages, I would enter a completely different “reality”. I’d gladly say it brought out the philosopher in me, while also making mentally far stronger.
The downside with something chronic and cyclical is that your morale does get affected after a while. I went really low on that side of things, but again coming out of it has changed me.
I also find that when I stay strong and overcome a great difficulty i feel a great sense of accomplishment, and often I’ll find that’s when good things come to me.
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welt
on 2017-12-14 23:05 [#02539986]
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For me it always felt like a heightened sense of reality. It's very easy in everyday-life to ignore and suppress certain real issues. It's very easy to just delay dealing with them ad infinituum and thus engage in self-deception. Then the immense, brute pain feels like a noisy alarm-bell screaming at me: REALITY IS WHAT IT IS! FACE IT! IT WON'T GO AWAY! THERE'S NO USE IN NOT FACING IT! .. and then, strangely, that does the trick. ..
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RussellDust
on 2017-12-14 23:06 [#02539987]
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Yes, and suddenly you know what are the important things to think about. For me at least, subjectively of course.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-15 12:30 [#02540023]
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ill try making some in a row and see how many i can do. glad to read you started exercising
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-15 12:32 [#02540024]
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Yes Mo I realise its important to maintain a basic level of fitness so I don't feel like shit all the time,
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-15 12:33 [#02540025]
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I can't help but feel we've strayed somewhat from the topic of Fah's penis.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-15 12:38 [#02540026]
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Sometimes I see older people walking around, some people not much older than me and they already look knackered,
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-15 13:53 [#02540028]
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*starts coughing* Fah's penis *stops coughing*
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-15 14:26 [#02540031]
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LAZY_TITLE
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RussellDust
on 2017-12-15 16:41 [#02540070]
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Do you guys think Fah’s penis is like Aphex’s?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-15 18:00 [#02540080]
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my car died on me today, im having a bike
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-15 18:04 [#02540084]
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im downgrading in comfort at the doors of the winter
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-15 18:10 [#02540087]
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*with winter at the doors
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-15 18:52 [#02540095]
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i just broken the glass of my work phone. its a SHIT WAVE!
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RussellDust
on 2017-12-15 19:06 [#02540098]
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Hope it evens out, mo!
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-15 19:22 [#02540101]
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it has broken only superficially
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-15 19:22 [#02540102]
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these moments i feel like donald duck, like my mum
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-15 19:29 [#02540103]
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i even stepped on dog shit today, i also bought a scratch and win and won nothing
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-15 19:52 [#02540106]
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is it possible to burn the engine of your car on payday?? fuck symmetry really, fuck christmas
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-15 20:39 [#02540114]
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shit car, i knew i had to come living in a place with a bus stop just outside the building, it happened
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SignedUpToLOL
from Zuckuss fanfiction (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-16 17:18 [#02540173]
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I am sorry to hear you're bearing a SHIT WAVE, but I did laugh at the thought of a SHIT WAVE.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-16 18:20 [#02540176]
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im definitely freeing mylself of this on monday or falling even more
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-16 18:40 [#02540178]
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its always like that by the way, every end of the year all the worst news come at once, so you can have a valid reason to party for the new year. i hope i fall on the soft if to. the bus stop nearby was planned ahead.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-17 16:16 [#02540197]
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should be already out of danger from 10 days in reality, it was a fine that could have put my driver lincense in danger, but the terms are expired, and it didn't happen. i kept monday as date for definitive relaxation, as a new start, in fact i will have to go to work by bus and metro and by feet, for a total of 1 hour and a half of trip, regardless that my license was saved.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-18 19:14 [#02540227]
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outta troubles, the trip was fine, gotta wake up at 5 tomorrow
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-18 19:15 [#02540228]
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why are witches tits considered cold?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-18 19:16 [#02540229]
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to get back on track, and sorry for derailing, i have the clear sensation i feel less cold of the other from some days, im really up for this, i think its nutrition and exercise that makes my blood circulating properly.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-18 19:16 [#02540230]
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*others
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RussellDust
on 2017-12-18 19:19 [#02540232]
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I didn’t know they were!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2017-12-18 19:29 [#02540237]
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my uncle used to say it!
'The simple explanation is that "colder than a witch's tit" is just a vivid metaphor, like "hotter than the hinges of hell." Since a
witch is in league with Satan, presumably she has no maternal feelings. Thus the medium by which she would suckle a child is,
well, cold as a witch's tit.
But there's some history behind this wisecrack. A witch's t i t (or witch's teat, to use the older spelling) supposedly left a marking
that witch hunters and courts would look for on the body of an accused person. Supposedly, witches would suckle their
familiars, and sometimes the Devil himself, from this "unholy" body part. To find these marks, as well as insensitive spots on the
skin called devil's marks--caused by the Devil's claws or teeth--the suspects were stripped, shaven, then closely examined for
any blemishes, moles, or even scars that could be labeled as diabolical. To find marks invisible to the eye, the examiner would
poke the victim inch by inch with a blunt needle (called a bodkin) until they found a spot that didn't feel pain or bled. Discovery
of these marks or spots--one supposes they would be considered cold since they were a sign of communion with the
Devil--would be "proof" of the person's dealings with Scratch, so they would be shown in full court before the execution.'
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2017-12-29 13:37 [#02541036]
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bwaha what a twat
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RussellDust
on 2017-12-29 22:08 [#02541124]
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Ha ha! Thanks for that!
I guess I see witches as belonging in two pretty basic categories: empathetic and well meaning, or evil and damaged.
I’m saying that because recently I did a job for a college in mediumship, “psychic sciences”, and intuition. I spent a week there and I’d say I met a lot of extremely well intended witches, full of love, with a very positive outlook on life. I lost a lot of cynicism after that week.
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